[2026-08-11 00:00:23] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16292 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 00:00:24] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16292 — dsar_ref='', inst_ref='SAR-2026-ELF30647'. [2026-08-11 00:00:25] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16292 matched DSAR 1791 via reference lookup (SAR-2026-ELF30647). [2026-08-11 00:00:25] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: saved receiver_reference 'SAR-2026-ELF30647' for DSAR 1791. [2026-08-11 00:00:27] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16292 response_type=portal_response. [2026-08-11 00:00:27] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16292 → triage_queue=portal_response (response_type=portal_response, dsar_id=1791). [2026-08-11 00:03:03] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 00:06:39] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 00:10:28] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 00:19:31] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 00:32:51] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 01:02:55] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 01:06:30] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 01:10:19] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 01:19:22] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 01:32:42] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 02:02:46] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 02:06:21] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 02:10:10] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 02:19:13] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 02:32:33] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 03:02:37] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 03:06:12] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 03:10:01] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 03:19:04] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 03:32:24] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 04:02:28] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 04:06:03] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 04:09:52] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 04:18:55] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 04:32:15] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 05:02:19] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 05:05:54] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 05:09:43] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 05:18:46] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 05:32:05] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 06:02:10] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 06:05:44] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 06:09:34] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 06:18:36] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 06:31:55] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 07:02:00] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 07:05:35] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 07:09:25] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 07:18:26] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 07:31:46] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 07:50:35] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} [2026-08-11 08:01:51] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 08:05:26] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 08:08:25] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16303 classified as 'generic' (high). [2026-08-11 08:09:16] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 08:10:07] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16304 classified as 'generic' (high). [2026-08-11 08:18:17] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 08:28:52] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":null,"resolved_phone_number_id":null,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 08:28:59] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 08:31:37] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 08:41:54] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} [2026-08-11 08:47:25] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 08:48:25] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 08:50:16] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 10950 (image001.jpg) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 08:50:16] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 10951 (image002.jpg) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 08:50:16] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 10952 (image.png) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 08:50:16] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 10953 (image.png) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 08:50:19] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16305 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 08:50:21] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16305 — dsar_ref='', inst_ref=''. [2026-08-11 08:50:37] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16305 — AI matcher dsar_id=, confidence=low. [2026-08-11 08:50:39] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16305 response_type=info_requested. [2026-08-11 08:50:39] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16305 → triage_queue=dsar_needs_research (response_type=info_requested, dsar_id=none). [2026-08-11 08:51:38] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} [2026-08-11 08:52:17] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} [2026-08-11 08:55:38] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} [2026-08-11 08:56:11] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 08:58:42] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 09:00:34] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 09:01:42] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 09:04:08] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 09:05:17] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 09:09:07] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 09:09:26] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 09:09:41] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 09:10:35] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 09:10:50] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 09:10:54] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 09:12:20] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} [2026-08-11 09:12:37] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 09:12:45] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 09:13:45] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} [2026-08-11 09:14:12] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 09:14:20] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441615700550","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CAc6b2f7dfe8a735f16ff77382deb85020","To":"+441615700550","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0FjNmIyZjdkZmU4YTczNWYxNmZmNzczODJkZWI4NTAyMCIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3Nzk1MDc4MDMwIiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE1NzAwNTUwIiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NjQzNjA2MCJ9.oI4PoEiIrcMOOvtdRfPJZhuVHffDkelGiXZB_C3AmTJOF3i3DObcab-0Pvwce4iKxFYX32x7Wd1aYv9ratZezA%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447795078030","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+447795078030","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} [2026-08-11 09:14:41] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} [2026-08-11 09:14:43] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 09:16:40] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 09:18:09] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 09:21:21] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CAc6b2f7dfe8a735f16ff77382deb85020","DialCallSid":"CA7b9f13a989cc7f32bf0a17522740bfa5","DialCallStatus":"completed","DialCallDuration":"407"} [2026-08-11 09:21:37] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3528 → AssemblyAI 15043068-665b-4902-abe0-78170f9ff685 [2026-08-11 09:22:38] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3528 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 09:22:38] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3528 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 09:22:38] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3528. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 09:22:38] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=evidence) for recording 3528. [2026-08-11 09:23:09] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=evidence) for recording 3528. [2026-08-11 09:23:23] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 09:23:47] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 09:23:55] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} [2026-08-11 09:24:07] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 09:24:30] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 09:24:36] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 09:24:41] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 09:24:45] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 09:24:49] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 09:25:05] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 09:29:54] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 09:30:27] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 09:30:30] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 09:30:35] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 09:30:38] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 09:31:28] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 09:31:30] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 09:33:03] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 09:35:53] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 09:36:24] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-0f9d47e1-8a14-4eed-8db3-1e8b72d6e0c5.pdf [2026-08-11 09:36:27] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 09:38:41] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 09:38:44] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 09:38:47] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA7f7a4eaf30a7e81811237cfbcd862719","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5069"} [2026-08-11 09:38:47] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5069,"CallSid":"CA7f7a4eaf30a7e81811237cfbcd862719","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA7f7a4eaf30a7e81811237cfbcd862719","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5069"}} [2026-08-11 09:39:55] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAca3ab5c91eee1cbe37252688295b6974","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5070"} [2026-08-11 09:39:55] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5070,"CallSid":"CAca3ab5c91eee1cbe37252688295b6974","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAca3ab5c91eee1cbe37252688295b6974","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5070"}} [2026-08-11 09:41:10] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3529 → AssemblyAI bab06d22-11d2-44b7-ad45-086563962a11 [2026-08-11 09:42:10] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3529 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 09:42:10] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3529 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 09:42:11] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3529. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 09:42:12] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=follow_up for recording 3529 [2026-08-11 09:42:54] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAd172f65782ed02dde3dd0be18905eef3","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5071"} [2026-08-11 09:42:54] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5071,"CallSid":"CAd172f65782ed02dde3dd0be18905eef3","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAd172f65782ed02dde3dd0be18905eef3","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5071"}} [2026-08-11 09:43:49] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3530 → AssemblyAI 26771f19-e39d-43f8-ad72-78b93c0c0c4e [2026-08-11 09:44:50] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3530 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 09:44:50] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3530 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 09:44:50] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3530. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 09:44:50] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=institution) for recording 3530. [2026-08-11 09:45:01] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16316 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 09:45:02] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16316 — dsar_ref='', inst_ref=''. [2026-08-11 09:45:14] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16316 — AI matcher dsar_id=, confidence=low. [2026-08-11 09:45:17] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16316 response_type=acknowledgement. [2026-08-11 09:45:17] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16316 → triage_queue=dsar_updates (response_type=acknowledgement, dsar_id=none). [2026-08-11 09:46:56] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: extracted text from attachment 10957 (Part C RFI.2026.2023.docx). [2026-08-11 09:46:58] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16317 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 09:47:00] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16317 — dsar_ref='100398', inst_ref='RFI/2026/2023'. [2026-08-11 09:47:00] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16317 matched DSAR 2557 via reference lookup (100398, RFI/2026/2023). [2026-08-11 09:47:00] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: saved receiver_reference 'RFI/2026/2023' for DSAR 2557. [2026-08-11 09:47:03] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16317 response_type=info_requested. [2026-08-11 09:47:03] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16317 → triage_queue=dsar_needs_research (response_type=info_requested, dsar_id=2557). [2026-08-11 09:47:03] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16317 auto-set DSAR 2557 status → further info required (response_type=info_requested). [2026-08-11 09:47:04] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} [2026-08-11 09:47:05] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 16316 (client 1131, 1 handler(s)). [2026-08-11 09:47:13] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} [2026-08-11 09:47:16] production.ERROR: View [auth.forgot-password] not found. {"exception":"[object] (InvalidArgumentException(code: 0): View [auth.forgot-password] not found. at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/FileViewFinder.php:138) [stacktrace] #0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/FileViewFinder.php(78): Illuminate\\View\\FileViewFinder->findInPaths('auth.forgot-pas...', Array) #1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Factory.php(150): Illuminate\\View\\FileViewFinder->find('auth.forgot-pas...') #2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/helpers.php(1100): Illuminate\\View\\Factory->make('auth.forgot-pas...', Array, Array) #3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/fortify/src/Http/Responses/SimpleViewResponse.php(50): view('auth.forgot-pas...', Array) #4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(921): Laravel\\Fortify\\Http\\Responses\\SimpleViewResponse->toResponse(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(906): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::toResponse(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Laravel\\Fortify\\Http\\Responses\\SimpleViewResponse)) #6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->prepareResponse(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Laravel\\Fortify\\Http\\Responses\\SimpleViewResponse)) #7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Auth/Middleware/RedirectIfAuthenticated.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Auth\\Middleware\\RedirectIfAuthenticated->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure), 'web') #10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure)) #22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route)) #31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TransformsRequest.php(21): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(31): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TransformsRequest->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TransformsRequest.php(21): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(51): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TransformsRequest->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #67 {main} "} [2026-08-11 09:47:17] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 16304 (client 1082, 1 handler(s)). [2026-08-11 09:47:26] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 16303 (client 996, 1 handler(s)). [2026-08-11 09:47:36] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 16281 (client 1101, 1 handler(s)). [2026-08-11 09:47:47] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 16270 (client 1039, 1 handler(s)). [2026-08-11 09:48:44] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 09:48:50] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 09:48:52] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 09:48:58] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 09:53:55] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 09:54:44] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 09:54:53] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 09:54:57] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 09:55:01] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 09:55:29] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} [2026-08-11 09:57:07] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA13be40057cbfe32b1b20e463fd709548","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5072"} [2026-08-11 09:57:07] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5072,"CallSid":"CA13be40057cbfe32b1b20e463fd709548","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA13be40057cbfe32b1b20e463fd709548","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5072"}} [2026-08-11 09:57:08] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 09:58:02] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3531 → AssemblyAI cc51907b-c4dc-474a-9002-7da7abcc1eb0 [2026-08-11 09:59:03] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3531 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 09:59:03] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3531 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 09:59:03] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3531. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 09:59:03] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 3531 — too short to classify (duration=28s, words=86). [2026-08-11 09:59:28] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAa9ad83abf9cb0e238d4066edc4ee2e0a","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5073"} [2026-08-11 09:59:28] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5073,"CallSid":"CAa9ad83abf9cb0e238d4066edc4ee2e0a","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAa9ad83abf9cb0e238d4066edc4ee2e0a","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5073"}} [2026-08-11 09:59:48] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 10:00:20] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3532 → AssemblyAI 53fad2e7-ccf9-4d3d-8fbb-3a38570ad1d7 [2026-08-11 10:00:26] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 10:01:20] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3532 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 10:01:20] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3532 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 10:01:21] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3532. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 10:01:21] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 3532 — too short to classify (duration=22s, words=67). [2026-08-11 10:01:33] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 10:02:11] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 10:05:07] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA45a8cd48a7bf7155c6e9126a492890c2","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5074"} [2026-08-11 10:05:07] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5074,"CallSid":"CA45a8cd48a7bf7155c6e9126a492890c2","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA45a8cd48a7bf7155c6e9126a492890c2","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5074"}} [2026-08-11 10:05:10] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 10:06:06] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA4d5fbfb16dd7c3edc13f43d7af35cfec","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5075"} [2026-08-11 10:06:06] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5075,"CallSid":"CA4d5fbfb16dd7c3edc13f43d7af35cfec","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA4d5fbfb16dd7c3edc13f43d7af35cfec","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5075"}} [2026-08-11 10:06:08] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3533 → AssemblyAI 8e4649e5-8312-4e9a-974d-5421cc211459 [2026-08-11 10:07:00] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3534 → AssemblyAI 93f5214e-de41-49a1-bf64-79820824e289 [2026-08-11 10:07:09] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3533 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 10:07:09] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3533 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 10:07:09] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3533. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 10:07:10] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3533 [2026-08-11 10:08:01] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3534 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 10:08:01] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3534 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 10:08:01] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3534. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 10:08:01] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=institution) for recording 3534. [2026-08-11 10:08:12] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA17e89ade957ca3cd540229c40300270d","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5076"} [2026-08-11 10:08:12] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5076,"CallSid":"CA17e89ade957ca3cd540229c40300270d","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA17e89ade957ca3cd540229c40300270d","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5076"}} [2026-08-11 10:08:17] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 10:08:58] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 10:09:06] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3535 → AssemblyAI 84d6c740-4d98-42f1-be0b-f22061b98ea5 [2026-08-11 10:09:39] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAaea8f3e023511b06fd17672916fcf0fa","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5077"} [2026-08-11 10:09:39] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5077,"CallSid":"CAaea8f3e023511b06fd17672916fcf0fa","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAaea8f3e023511b06fd17672916fcf0fa","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5077"}} [2026-08-11 10:09:58] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA464542c637c7e3f83911106467b91aef","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5078"} [2026-08-11 10:09:58] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5078,"CallSid":"CA464542c637c7e3f83911106467b91aef","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA464542c637c7e3f83911106467b91aef","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5078"}} [2026-08-11 10:10:07] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3535 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 10:10:07] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3535 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 10:10:08] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3535. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 10:10:08] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 3535 — too short to classify (duration=24s, words=75). [2026-08-11 10:10:40] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3536 → AssemblyAI e94a729c-defe-4ed0-bb83-e766c00441b9 [2026-08-11 10:10:55] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 10:10:57] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA41b8d98953b3a52809bb8643d7d2eb7a","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5079"} [2026-08-11 10:10:57] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5079,"CallSid":"CA41b8d98953b3a52809bb8643d7d2eb7a","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA41b8d98953b3a52809bb8643d7d2eb7a","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5079"}} [2026-08-11 10:11:00] production.WARNING: Twilio webhook signature validation failed. {"url":"https://ha.fintrixor.co.uk/webhook/twilio/status","signature":"oRoTq15Tc+2lWsWlykit/0T+BOc=","params":["Called","ParentCallSid","ToState","CallerCountry","Direction","Timestamp","CallbackSource","SipResponseCode","CallerState","ToZip","SequenceNumber","CallSid","To","CallerZip","ToCountry","CalledZip","ApiVersion","CalledCity","CallStatus","Duration","From","CallDuration","AccountSid","CalledCountry","CallerCity","ToCity","FromCountry","Caller","FromCity","CalledState","ErrorCode","FromZip","ErrorMessage","FromState"]} [2026-08-11 10:11:41] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3536 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 10:11:41] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3536 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 10:11:41] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3536. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 10:11:41] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 3536 — too short to classify (duration=25s, words=74). [2026-08-11 10:11:46] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA5a9a2ee4be164919280d5911e5c0f91f","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5080"} [2026-08-11 10:11:46] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5080,"CallSid":"CA5a9a2ee4be164919280d5911e5c0f91f","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA5a9a2ee4be164919280d5911e5c0f91f","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5080"}} [2026-08-11 10:11:52] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 10:12:11] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} [2026-08-11 10:12:45] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_2"} [2026-08-11 10:12:51] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA8c0ddc6546d71d6c73648ac0df24e038","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5081"} [2026-08-11 10:12:51] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5081,"CallSid":"CA8c0ddc6546d71d6c73648ac0df24e038","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA8c0ddc6546d71d6c73648ac0df24e038","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5081"}} [2026-08-11 10:13:26] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 10:14:32] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} [2026-08-11 10:14:58] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3537 → AssemblyAI 74fff70e-917f-4796-9311-12ee450517c9 [2026-08-11 10:15:08] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 10:15:59] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3537 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 10:15:59] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3537 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 10:15:59] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3537. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 10:16:00] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=initial for recording 3537 [2026-08-11 10:16:29] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA6bb61136c20f5550d9b6be1e776b3f06","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5082"} [2026-08-11 10:16:29] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5082,"CallSid":"CA6bb61136c20f5550d9b6be1e776b3f06","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA6bb61136c20f5550d9b6be1e776b3f06","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5082"}} [2026-08-11 10:16:31] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA0f566b1dbbaab2bb6e4c6c982d8376fb","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5083"} [2026-08-11 10:16:31] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5083,"CallSid":"CA0f566b1dbbaab2bb6e4c6c982d8376fb","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA0f566b1dbbaab2bb6e4c6c982d8376fb","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5083"}} [2026-08-11 10:16:34] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: scorer returned for recording 3537. {"total_score":10,"risk_rating":"high_risk","has_sections":true} [2026-08-11 10:17:31] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_28","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_28","CallSid":"CAf304ae50434ddedf028d09a95a88a416","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5084"} [2026-08-11 10:17:31] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5084,"CallSid":"CAf304ae50434ddedf028d09a95a88a416","From":"client:agent_production_28","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_28","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_28","CallSid":"CAf304ae50434ddedf028d09a95a88a416","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5084"}} [2026-08-11 10:17:31] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3538 → AssemblyAI 83795274-5b5c-413c-9ad9-8ca3012fb20b [2026-08-11 10:18:01] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 10:18:08] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_28","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_28","CallSid":"CA448800d8eaff3a8e98978f911f1f4cb5","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5085"} [2026-08-11 10:18:08] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5085,"CallSid":"CA448800d8eaff3a8e98978f911f1f4cb5","From":"client:agent_production_28","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_28","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_28","CallSid":"CA448800d8eaff3a8e98978f911f1f4cb5","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5085"}} [2026-08-11 10:18:19] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 10:18:33] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3538 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 10:18:33] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3538 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 10:18:33] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3538. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 10:18:33] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 3538 — too short to classify (duration=29s, words=96). [2026-08-11 10:19:10] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA36ed62241d0a7b1a1e56cd9443d50b16","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5086"} [2026-08-11 10:19:10] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5086,"CallSid":"CA36ed62241d0a7b1a1e56cd9443d50b16","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA36ed62241d0a7b1a1e56cd9443d50b16","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5086"}} [2026-08-11 10:19:19] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 10:22:25] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 10:23:46] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} [2026-08-11 10:24:16] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3539 → AssemblyAI d4088ba4-6760-4125-a733-814762f7b2ca [2026-08-11 10:25:16] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3539 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 10:25:16] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3539 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 10:25:17] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3539. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 10:25:17] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: recording 3539 marked 'initial' by agent disposition; skipping classifier. [2026-08-11 10:26:01] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: scorer returned for recording 3539. {"total_score":52,"risk_rating":"high_risk","has_sections":true} [2026-08-11 10:26:04] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} [2026-08-11 10:27:05] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 10:27:18] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 10:27:22] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAbb78921c66dba8882e50c65bb2f8abec","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5087"} [2026-08-11 10:27:22] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5087,"CallSid":"CAbb78921c66dba8882e50c65bb2f8abec","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAbb78921c66dba8882e50c65bb2f8abec","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5087"}} [2026-08-11 10:27:26] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 10:28:11] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 10:28:29] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 10:28:31] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 10958 (image001.png) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 10:28:31] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 10959 (image002.png) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 10:28:31] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 10960 (image003.png) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 10:28:34] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16344 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 10:28:36] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16344 — dsar_ref='', inst_ref='100156'. [2026-08-11 10:28:36] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16344 matched DSAR 641 via reference lookup (100156). [2026-08-11 10:28:36] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: saved receiver_reference '100156' for DSAR 641. [2026-08-11 10:28:37] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3540 → AssemblyAI cdc196d7-be76-45dc-900a-cc5c35fdc4df [2026-08-11 10:28:40] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16344 response_type=delay_notice. [2026-08-11 10:28:40] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16344 → triage_queue=dsar_updates (response_type=delay_notice, dsar_id=641). [2026-08-11 10:29:13] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 10:29:32] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 10:29:37] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 10:29:38] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3540 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 10:29:38] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3540 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 10:29:38] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3540. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 10:29:39] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3540 [2026-08-11 10:29:54] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 10:29:57] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 10:30:12] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 10:30:17] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 10:30:34] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 10:30:41] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 10:30:56] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 10:31:00] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 10:31:19] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 10:31:19] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 10:31:23] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 10:31:45] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 10:32:03] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 10:32:16] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 10:32:19] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 10:32:23] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 10:32:26] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 10:32:37] production.ERROR: Typed property App\Components\Institution\ContactManager::$editing_id must not be accessed before initialization {"userId":28,"exception":"[object] (Error(code: 0): Typed property App\\Components\\Institution\\ContactManager::$editing_id must not be accessed before initialization at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Components/Institution/ContactManager.php:133) [stacktrace] #0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Components\\Institution\\ContactManager->editContact(Object(App\\Services\\HistoryService), 839) #1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}() #2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure)) #3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure)) #4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Wrapped.php(23): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array) #5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(515): Livewire\\Wrapped->__call('editContact', Array) #6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(124): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->callMethods(Object(App\\Components\\Institution\\ContactManager), Array, Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\ComponentContext)) #7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array) #8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array) #9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate() #10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate') #11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}() #12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route)) #13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate') #14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController() #15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run() #16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure)) #29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route)) #38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #72 {main} "} [2026-08-11 10:32:40] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 10:32:46] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 10:32:49] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 10:32:54] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 10:33:10] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 10:33:12] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 10:33:16] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 10:33:19] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-a44651d5-c10b-4093-a2d7-d8d9ce5f24ef.pdf [2026-08-11 10:33:21] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 10:33:35] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 10:33:38] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 10:33:58] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 10:34:25] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3541 → AssemblyAI 6701d9b1-00a8-4818-aae9-793031679fe8 [2026-08-11 10:35:26] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3541 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 10:35:26] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3541 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 10:35:26] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3541. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 10:35:26] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=institution) for recording 3541. [2026-08-11 10:36:10] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 10:36:18] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-7ee43951-a4ce-4d43-ad98-2624d729c424.pdf [2026-08-11 10:36:20] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 10:38:11] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 10:38:25] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 10:38:35] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 10:38:58] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA9a37a759484436404fb377eb0649551c","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5088"} [2026-08-11 10:38:58] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5088,"CallSid":"CA9a37a759484436404fb377eb0649551c","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA9a37a759484436404fb377eb0649551c","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5088"}} [2026-08-11 10:39:39] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3542 → AssemblyAI eae7b849-fc47-40a6-b2b6-40a429f909c5 [2026-08-11 10:39:59] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 10:40:07] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 10:40:14] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 10:40:18] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 10:40:21] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 10:40:30] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 10:40:39] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3542 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 10:40:39] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3542 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 10:40:40] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3542. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 10:40:41] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3542 [2026-08-11 10:41:54] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 10:42:00] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 10:42:18] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 10:42:29] production.ERROR: Unable to retrieve the file_size for file at location: contact-attachments/205/Outlook-kdohdhyp.png. {"userId":22,"exception":"[object] (League\\Flysystem\\UnableToRetrieveMetadata(code: 0): Unable to retrieve the file_size for file at location: contact-attachments/205/Outlook-kdohdhyp.png. at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/league/flysystem/src/UnableToRetrieveMetadata.php:49) [stacktrace] #0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/league/flysystem/src/UnableToRetrieveMetadata.php(39): League\\Flysystem\\UnableToRetrieveMetadata::create('contact-attachm...', 'file_size', '', NULL) #1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/league/flysystem-local/LocalFilesystemAdapter.php(449): League\\Flysystem\\UnableToRetrieveMetadata::fileSize('contact-attachm...', '') #2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/league/flysystem/src/Filesystem.php(166): League\\Flysystem\\Local\\LocalFilesystemAdapter->fileSize('contact-attachm...') #3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/FilesystemAdapter.php(644): League\\Flysystem\\Filesystem->fileSize('contact-attachm...') #4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/FilesystemAdapter.php(334): Illuminate\\Filesystem\\FilesystemAdapter->size('contact-attachm...') #5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Controllers/Contact/AttachmentDownloadController.php(31): Illuminate\\Filesystem\\FilesystemAdapter->response('contact-attachm...', 'Outlook-kdohdhy...', Array) #6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): App\\Http\\Controllers\\Contact\\AttachmentDownloadController->preview(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(App\\Models\\Contact\\Hub\\ContactMessageAttachment)) #7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(App\\Http\\Controllers\\Contact\\AttachmentDownloadController), 'preview') #8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}() #9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route)) #10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(App\\Http\\Controllers\\Contact\\AttachmentDownloadController), 'preview') #11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController() #12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run() #13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Auth/Middleware/Authorize.php(59): 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Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): 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Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #77 {main} "} [2026-08-11 10:42:29] production.ERROR: Unable to retrieve the file_size for file at location: contact-attachments/205/Outlook-0dmwbbmd.png. {"userId":22,"exception":"[object] (League\\Flysystem\\UnableToRetrieveMetadata(code: 0): Unable to retrieve the file_size for file at location: contact-attachments/205/Outlook-0dmwbbmd.png. at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/league/flysystem/src/UnableToRetrieveMetadata.php:49) [stacktrace] #0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/league/flysystem/src/UnableToRetrieveMetadata.php(39): League\\Flysystem\\UnableToRetrieveMetadata::create('contact-attachm...', 'file_size', '', NULL) #1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/league/flysystem-local/LocalFilesystemAdapter.php(449): 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/home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #30 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Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route)) #41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TransformsRequest.php(21): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(31): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TransformsRequest->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TransformsRequest.php(21): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(51): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TransformsRequest->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #77 {main} "} [2026-08-11 10:42:45] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 10:42:52] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-1997e4bc-084e-4383-bf25-30d2c34d6fce.pdf [2026-08-11 10:42:54] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 10:43:18] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16350 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 10:43:19] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16350 — dsar_ref='', inst_ref=''. [2026-08-11 10:43:32] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16350 — AI matcher dsar_id=, confidence=low. [2026-08-11 10:43:34] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16350 response_type=acknowledgement. [2026-08-11 10:43:34] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16350 → triage_queue=dsar_updates (response_type=acknowledgement, dsar_id=none). [2026-08-11 10:44:55] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 10:45:04] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 10:45:54] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 10:45:58] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 10:46:15] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 10:46:54] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_28","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_28","CallSid":"CA552e2b32b0f6a6f21354ca5004e416eb","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5089"} [2026-08-11 10:46:54] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5089,"CallSid":"CA552e2b32b0f6a6f21354ca5004e416eb","From":"client:agent_production_28","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_28","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_28","CallSid":"CA552e2b32b0f6a6f21354ca5004e416eb","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5089"}} [2026-08-11 10:47:04] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 10:47:36] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 10:47:45] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 10:47:56] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 10:48:05] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-de2eecea-e329-4a5b-afbd-e98d7072858a.pdf [2026-08-11 10:48:07] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 10:48:15] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} [2026-08-11 10:49:10] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} [2026-08-11 10:49:16] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} [2026-08-11 10:49:42] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 10:49:50] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 10:51:41] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 10:52:22] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA47f263a66e48346ac00cb3739b25be5a","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5090"} [2026-08-11 10:52:22] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5090,"CallSid":"CA47f263a66e48346ac00cb3739b25be5a","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA47f263a66e48346ac00cb3739b25be5a","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5090"}} [2026-08-11 10:52:29] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 10:52:30] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 10:52:32] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} [2026-08-11 10:52:38] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 10:52:41] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} [2026-08-11 10:52:47] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-f621261c-7527-4274-8103-e1c3a72ed1f9.pdf [2026-08-11 10:52:49] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 10:53:03] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3543 → AssemblyAI 5d32f8d4-450c-490f-8a42-1e96b270075a [2026-08-11 10:54:04] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3543 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 10:54:04] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3543 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 10:54:04] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3543. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 10:54:05] production.WARNING: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: no completed transcript for recording 3543. [2026-08-11 10:55:12] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_2"} [2026-08-11 10:55:19] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} [2026-08-11 10:57:39] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA75e47d5f0af88e0575d4e1a369cf43d6","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5091"} [2026-08-11 10:57:39] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5091,"CallSid":"CA75e47d5f0af88e0575d4e1a369cf43d6","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA75e47d5f0af88e0575d4e1a369cf43d6","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5091"}} [2026-08-11 10:59:55] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 11:01:24] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 11:01:50] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:03:49] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:04:57] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 11:05:12] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3544 → AssemblyAI 911190be-a85d-482d-a8b1-8da834badfdd [2026-08-11 11:05:14] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 11:05:30] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAcecd32cddc857af7022d567a90f90388","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5092"} [2026-08-11 11:05:30] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5092,"CallSid":"CAcecd32cddc857af7022d567a90f90388","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAcecd32cddc857af7022d567a90f90388","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5092"}} [2026-08-11 11:05:46] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 11:06:01] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 11:06:13] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3544 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 11:06:13] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3544 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 11:06:13] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3544. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 11:06:13] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=institution) for recording 3544. [2026-08-11 11:06:26] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 11:06:32] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 11:06:41] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 11:06:54] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 11:07:29] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 11:07:35] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 11:08:12] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 11:08:17] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 11:08:49] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 11:09:50] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZR4SE9T2WRJB6QN49VP6NQV"} [2026-08-11 11:09:50] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZR4SE9T2WRJB6QN49VP6NQV"} [2026-08-11 11:09:51] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZR4SECSS1B82G05K5SZ3MC2"} [2026-08-11 11:09:51] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZR4SECSS1B82G05K5SZ3MC2"} [2026-08-11 11:09:52] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZR4SED62XJ6CBD6N6B1FVX4"} [2026-08-11 11:09:52] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZR4SED62XJ6CBD6N6B1FVX4"} [2026-08-11 11:09:53] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZR4SEDMDPJPMAEZJ7TNC2J3"} [2026-08-11 11:09:53] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZR4SEDMDPJPMAEZJ7TNC2J3"} [2026-08-11 11:09:53] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZR4SEFYXVGKCZK28QCJK7RQ"} [2026-08-11 11:09:53] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZR4SEFYXVGKCZK28QCJK7RQ"} [2026-08-11 11:09:54] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZR4SEGZ3VK8TKXZNYSE81Q2"} [2026-08-11 11:09:54] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZR4SEGZ3VK8TKXZNYSE81Q2"} [2026-08-11 11:09:55] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZR4SEHHSWM1V6B66TYE1DQV"} [2026-08-11 11:09:55] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZR4SEHHSWM1V6B66TYE1DQV"} [2026-08-11 11:09:56] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZR4SEJ6FC1NDNEHW8YHXB73"} [2026-08-11 11:09:56] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZR4SEJ6FC1NDNEHW8YHXB73"} [2026-08-11 11:10:01] production.INFO: eSign signing-link email: firing trigger (single request link) {"contract_request_id":997,"documents":8,"has_signing_url":true} [2026-08-11 11:10:02] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZR4SE9T2WRJB6QN49VP6NQV"} [2026-08-11 11:10:03] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZR4SECSS1B82G05K5SZ3MC2"} [2026-08-11 11:10:04] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZR4SED62XJ6CBD6N6B1FVX4"} [2026-08-11 11:10:04] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZR4SEDMDPJPMAEZJ7TNC2J3"} [2026-08-11 11:10:05] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZR4SEFYXVGKCZK28QCJK7RQ"} [2026-08-11 11:10:06] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZR4SEGZ3VK8TKXZNYSE81Q2"} [2026-08-11 11:10:06] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZR4SEHHSWM1V6B66TYE1DQV"} [2026-08-11 11:10:07] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZR4SEJ6FC1NDNEHW8YHXB73"} [2026-08-11 11:10:08] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01KZR4SE9T2WRJB6QN49VP6NQV"} [2026-08-11 11:10:08] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01KZR4SECSS1B82G05K5SZ3MC2"} [2026-08-11 11:10:09] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01KZR4SED62XJ6CBD6N6B1FVX4"} [2026-08-11 11:10:10] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01KZR4SEDMDPJPMAEZJ7TNC2J3"} [2026-08-11 11:10:10] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01KZR4SEFYXVGKCZK28QCJK7RQ"} [2026-08-11 11:10:11] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01KZR4SEGZ3VK8TKXZNYSE81Q2"} [2026-08-11 11:10:12] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01KZR4SEHHSWM1V6B66TYE1DQV"} [2026-08-11 11:10:13] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01KZR4SEJ6FC1NDNEHW8YHXB73"} [2026-08-11 11:10:55] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAcb9572d0279b658d30427bbd53d245ad","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5093"} [2026-08-11 11:10:55] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5093,"CallSid":"CAcb9572d0279b658d30427bbd53d245ad","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAcb9572d0279b658d30427bbd53d245ad","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5093"}} [2026-08-11 11:12:12] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:12:18] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3545 → AssemblyAI 4ebae537-30e6-4685-aea9-c44725b7256d [2026-08-11 11:12:34] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: extracted text from attachment 10976 (26 Scotland's Redress Scheme - Receipt of Application from your Solicitor.docx). [2026-08-11 11:12:34] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: extracted text from attachment 10977 (Verifying your identity - Application received from Solicitor.pdf). [2026-08-11 11:12:34] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: extracted text from attachment 10978 (Summary of Options.pdf). [2026-08-11 11:12:34] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: extracted text from attachment 10979 (Accessing your Records information sheet - Individually Assessed Payment.docx). [2026-08-11 11:12:37] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16361 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 11:12:38] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16361 — dsar_ref='', inst_ref='APP652776'. [2026-08-11 11:12:56] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:12:59] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16361 — AI matcher dsar_id=, confidence=low. [2026-08-11 11:12:59] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16361 — extracted reference 'APP652776' but no DSAR matched. [2026-08-11 11:13:01] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16361 response_type=acknowledgement. [2026-08-11 11:13:01] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16361 → triage_queue=dsar_updates (response_type=acknowledgement, dsar_id=none). [2026-08-11 11:13:18] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3545 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 11:13:18] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3545 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 11:13:19] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3545. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 11:13:20] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=follow_up for recording 3545 [2026-08-11 11:16:02] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 11:16:07] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAf79f54675cc5723f7591d8a0ec8983e3","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5094"} [2026-08-11 11:16:07] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5094,"CallSid":"CAf79f54675cc5723f7591d8a0ec8983e3","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAf79f54675cc5723f7591d8a0ec8983e3","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5094"}} [2026-08-11 11:16:29] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:16:52] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:16:54] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:17:12] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:17:52] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 11:18:05] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 11:18:42] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 11:18:45] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441618880834","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"JE","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CA0c6941c8852682f9c4acd8f18f9d687b","To":"+441618880834","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0EwYzY5NDFjODg1MjY4MmY5YzRhY2Q4ZjE4ZjlkNjg3YiIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3MzY4MjQwMDI2IiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE4ODgwODM0IiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NjQ0MzUyNSJ9.P34B9zr16GJF_slZrEa6JABtw5xxmZC9mlbQej3Z5aGk8TfP7JQ6wcjHvxMjm8qbOU0xVUZYn_toYnH0r66Wpg%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447368240026","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"JE","Caller":"+447368240026","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} [2026-08-11 11:18:59] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 10980 (image001.png) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 11:18:59] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 10981 (image003.jpg) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 11:19:02] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16364 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 11:19:02] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16364 matched via regex reference 'DSAR-20260716-88A0E2' → DSAR 3956. [2026-08-11 11:19:04] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16364 response_type=delay_notice. [2026-08-11 11:19:04] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16364 → triage_queue=dsar_updates (response_type=delay_notice, dsar_id=3956). [2026-08-11 11:19:04] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16364 auto-set DSAR 3956 status → acknowledged (response_type=delay_notice). [2026-08-11 11:19:12] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3546 → AssemblyAI ded78806-3172-4662-9325-3d37fbf7aacc [2026-08-11 11:19:18] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:19:38] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 11:19:55] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 11:19:56] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} [2026-08-11 11:20:03] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 11:20:07] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 11:20:12] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3547 → AssemblyAI aff974c2-bf4c-4b09-9dce-e2eebd787073 [2026-08-11 11:20:13] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3546 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 11:20:13] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3546 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 11:20:13] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3546. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 11:20:15] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=follow_up for recording 3546 [2026-08-11 11:20:26] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA3cff303451b79f2d1e38e0db057dad10","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5096"} [2026-08-11 11:20:26] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5096,"CallSid":"CA3cff303451b79f2d1e38e0db057dad10","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA3cff303451b79f2d1e38e0db057dad10","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5096"}} [2026-08-11 11:20:29] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 11:20:32] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 11:20:49] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:21:13] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3547 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 11:21:13] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3547 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 11:21:13] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3547. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 11:21:13] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=institution) for recording 3547. [2026-08-11 11:21:20] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_28","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_28","CallSid":"CAbeab2a5e051a274e0de5a2393e00195f","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5097"} [2026-08-11 11:21:20] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5097,"CallSid":"CAbeab2a5e051a274e0de5a2393e00195f","From":"client:agent_production_28","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_28","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_28","CallSid":"CAbeab2a5e051a274e0de5a2393e00195f","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5097"}} [2026-08-11 11:21:31] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 15818 (client 1035, 1 handler(s)). [2026-08-11 11:21:59] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3548 → AssemblyAI 160e40f6-8b7d-4ffe-afe3-ec1e92699939 [2026-08-11 11:22:15] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 11:22:29] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-0e544901-ab0d-491d-9186-561676f729fc.pdf [2026-08-11 11:22:31] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 11:22:49] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 11:23:00] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3548 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 11:23:00] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3548 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 11:23:00] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3548. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 11:23:02] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=initial for recording 3548 [2026-08-11 11:23:09] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 15817 (client 1035, 1 handler(s)). [2026-08-11 11:23:21] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-56d42129-3671-4203-adca-8d90b6e9bfc5.pdf [2026-08-11 11:23:24] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-0b69b978-2256-4b8f-82e6-3784bae2b8da.pdf [2026-08-11 11:23:27] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 11:23:38] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:23:42] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: scorer returned for recording 3548. {"total_score":4,"risk_rating":"high_risk","has_sections":true} [2026-08-11 11:24:04] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 11:24:28] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAec90e1c7f751cf296540072084fd0400","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5098"} [2026-08-11 11:24:28] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5098,"CallSid":"CAec90e1c7f751cf296540072084fd0400","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAec90e1c7f751cf296540072084fd0400","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5098"}} [2026-08-11 11:25:21] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:25:27] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:25:30] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:25:36] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:25:38] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 11:25:39] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:25:43] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:25:52] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:26:00] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:26:03] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:26:10] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:26:27] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:26:29] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:26:48] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:26:55] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 11:26:57] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:27:02] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3549 → AssemblyAI 70ac7ca5-46c0-46ac-b2fc-3cb9d525bc82 [2026-08-11 11:28:03] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3549 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 11:28:03] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3549 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 11:28:03] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3549. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 11:28:03] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=institution) for recording 3549. [2026-08-11 11:28:38] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 11:28:49] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 11:29:07] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA914417472ee35490176c534af997453d","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5099"} [2026-08-11 11:29:07] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5099,"CallSid":"CA914417472ee35490176c534af997453d","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA914417472ee35490176c534af997453d","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5099"}} [2026-08-11 11:29:13] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-b9aafe43-d4d9-4b6c-8f4c-1796376a707c.pdf [2026-08-11 11:29:15] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 11:29:34] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} [2026-08-11 11:29:48] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:29:54] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:31:10] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 11:31:33] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:31:36] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 11:31:37] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:33:06] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 11:33:22] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 11:33:24] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 11:33:46] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3550 → AssemblyAI ea9fb21a-8c99-4711-a49e-fadeeb9f37af [2026-08-11 11:33:57] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZR65MF8X75Z20BAK72SFC8E"} [2026-08-11 11:33:57] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZR65MF8X75Z20BAK72SFC8E"} [2026-08-11 11:33:57] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZR65MGZ3K6YV5KNMR5093V8"} [2026-08-11 11:33:57] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZR65MGZ3K6YV5KNMR5093V8"} [2026-08-11 11:33:58] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZR65MHC9AJRXAMT6TWHXC2W"} [2026-08-11 11:33:58] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZR65MHC9AJRXAMT6TWHXC2W"} [2026-08-11 11:33:59] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZR65MHSSZMPQK2F34SB776H"} [2026-08-11 11:33:59] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZR65MHSSZMPQK2F34SB776H"} [2026-08-11 11:33:59] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZR65MKTHH0FJCDB0NH7PHGY"} [2026-08-11 11:33:59] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZR65MKTHH0FJCDB0NH7PHGY"} [2026-08-11 11:34:00] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZR65MMNCE6F1Y1ETMYR8DGC"} [2026-08-11 11:34:00] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZR65MMNCE6F1Y1ETMYR8DGC"} [2026-08-11 11:34:02] production.INFO: eSign signing-link email: firing trigger (single request link) {"contract_request_id":998,"documents":6,"has_signing_url":true} [2026-08-11 11:34:03] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01KZR65MF8X75Z20BAK72SFC8E"} [2026-08-11 11:34:04] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01KZR65MGZ3K6YV5KNMR5093V8"} [2026-08-11 11:34:05] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01KZR65MHC9AJRXAMT6TWHXC2W"} [2026-08-11 11:34:05] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01KZR65MHSSZMPQK2F34SB776H"} [2026-08-11 11:34:06] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01KZR65MKTHH0FJCDB0NH7PHGY"} [2026-08-11 11:34:07] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01KZR65MMNCE6F1Y1ETMYR8DGC"} [2026-08-11 11:34:08] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZR65MF8X75Z20BAK72SFC8E"} [2026-08-11 11:34:08] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 11:34:08] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZR65MGZ3K6YV5KNMR5093V8"} [2026-08-11 11:34:09] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZR65MHC9AJRXAMT6TWHXC2W"} [2026-08-11 11:34:10] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZR65MHSSZMPQK2F34SB776H"} [2026-08-11 11:34:10] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZR65MKTHH0FJCDB0NH7PHGY"} [2026-08-11 11:34:11] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZR65MMNCE6F1Y1ETMYR8DGC"} [2026-08-11 11:34:29] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:34:47] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3550 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 11:34:47] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3550 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 11:34:47] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3550. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 11:34:50] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=follow_up for recording 3550 [2026-08-11 11:35:28] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_28","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_28","CallSid":"CAf276d7139569fdd2020a56ebbe309fbb","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5100"} [2026-08-11 11:35:28] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5100,"CallSid":"CAf276d7139569fdd2020a56ebbe309fbb","From":"client:agent_production_28","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_28","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_28","CallSid":"CAf276d7139569fdd2020a56ebbe309fbb","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5100"}} [2026-08-11 11:36:18] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:36:28] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:36:29] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16371 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 11:36:30] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16371 — dsar_ref='', inst_ref=''. [2026-08-11 11:36:33] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:36:39] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:36:43] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:36:48] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:37:01] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16371 — AI matcher dsar_id=, confidence=low. [2026-08-11 11:37:04] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16371 response_type=acknowledgement. [2026-08-11 11:37:04] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16371 → triage_queue=dsar_updates (response_type=acknowledgement, dsar_id=none). [2026-08-11 11:37:28] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:37:32] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:38:09] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAe34a8e13bb7dd15eddfe2012fac53c2b","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5101"} [2026-08-11 11:38:09] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5101,"CallSid":"CAe34a8e13bb7dd15eddfe2012fac53c2b","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAe34a8e13bb7dd15eddfe2012fac53c2b","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5101"}} [2026-08-11 11:38:21] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:38:27] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:38:30] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:38:31] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:38:36] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:38:47] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:38:54] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3551 → AssemblyAI 50e625d2-65b5-4375-9257-6e02225fc82d [2026-08-11 11:39:40] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 11:39:55] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3551 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 11:39:55] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3551 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 11:39:56] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3551. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 11:39:58] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3551 [2026-08-11 11:40:12] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA0ba77f1608e486b8097d3caf024f5987","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5102"} [2026-08-11 11:40:12] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5102,"CallSid":"CA0ba77f1608e486b8097d3caf024f5987","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA0ba77f1608e486b8097d3caf024f5987","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5102"}} [2026-08-11 11:40:17] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAc6c9939435ebe518ca6612dcbeb5a75f","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5103"} [2026-08-11 11:40:17] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5103,"CallSid":"CAc6c9939435ebe518ca6612dcbeb5a75f","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAc6c9939435ebe518ca6612dcbeb5a75f","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5103"}} [2026-08-11 11:40:38] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} [2026-08-11 11:40:54] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3552 → AssemblyAI f015de44-5c71-4427-89db-4672ab5e0b43 [2026-08-11 11:41:11] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:41:23] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3553 → AssemblyAI c804fc62-f0c3-43c4-b5ce-9e2d8cb0dad1 [2026-08-11 11:41:24] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAca65317d17bf8de262c78db9a42ae189","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5104"} [2026-08-11 11:41:24] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5104,"CallSid":"CAca65317d17bf8de262c78db9a42ae189","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAca65317d17bf8de262c78db9a42ae189","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5104"}} [2026-08-11 11:41:26] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} [2026-08-11 11:41:30] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16375 classified as 'generic' (high). [2026-08-11 11:41:41] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} [2026-08-11 11:41:55] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3552 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 11:41:55] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3552 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 11:41:55] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3552. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 11:41:56] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3552 [2026-08-11 11:42:23] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3553 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 11:42:23] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3553 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 11:42:24] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3553. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 11:42:24] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=institution) for recording 3553. [2026-08-11 11:43:40] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:43:48] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 11:44:31] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 11:44:33] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} [2026-08-11 11:44:54] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA512f822c9a2f0670702aff82513a3712","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5105"} [2026-08-11 11:44:54] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5105,"CallSid":"CA512f822c9a2f0670702aff82513a3712","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA512f822c9a2f0670702aff82513a3712","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5105"}} [2026-08-11 11:45:10] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA59487c80ebf596856643d460e5d9e294","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5106"} [2026-08-11 11:45:10] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5106,"CallSid":"CA59487c80ebf596856643d460e5d9e294","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA59487c80ebf596856643d460e5d9e294","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5106"}} [2026-08-11 11:45:12] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3554 → AssemblyAI 8006c555-c711-4648-a4d1-5cbea85fc831 [2026-08-11 11:45:17] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 11:45:36] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} [2026-08-11 11:46:12] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3554 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 11:46:12] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3554 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 11:46:13] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3554. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 11:46:13] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 3554 — too short to classify (duration=9s, words=18). [2026-08-11 11:46:21] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} [2026-08-11 11:51:04] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA6e270207ea668177803a98d0456f04f2","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5107"} [2026-08-11 11:51:04] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5107,"CallSid":"CA6e270207ea668177803a98d0456f04f2","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA6e270207ea668177803a98d0456f04f2","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5107"}} [2026-08-11 11:52:24] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} [2026-08-11 11:52:33] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} [2026-08-11 11:52:33] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3555 → AssemblyAI 398f4e07-6d26-4a74-85d3-b5952ed33d94 [2026-08-11 11:53:24] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 11:53:34] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3555 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 11:53:34] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3555 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 11:53:34] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3555. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 11:53:39] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3555 [2026-08-11 11:54:52] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA544103a838cede8a30e4caf218ffca6b","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5108"} [2026-08-11 11:54:52] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5108,"CallSid":"CA544103a838cede8a30e4caf218ffca6b","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA544103a838cede8a30e4caf218ffca6b","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5108"}} [2026-08-11 11:55:03] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_2"} [2026-08-11 11:55:20] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 10991 (image.png) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 11:55:20] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 10992 (image.png) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 11:55:23] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16379 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 11:55:23] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16379 matched via regex reference 'DSAR-20260811-4B3AED' → DSAR 4186. [2026-08-11 11:55:25] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16379 response_type=delay_notice. [2026-08-11 11:55:25] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16379 → triage_queue=dsar_updates (response_type=delay_notice, dsar_id=4186). [2026-08-11 11:55:25] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16379 auto-set DSAR 4186 status → acknowledged (response_type=delay_notice). [2026-08-11 11:55:47] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 11:56:05] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3556 → AssemblyAI db592347-ba3e-434a-8266-7c6fb7a4b2a7 [2026-08-11 11:57:02] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA9c089febd4d33cac3acb718365d5cc5a","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5109"} [2026-08-11 11:57:02] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5109,"CallSid":"CA9c089febd4d33cac3acb718365d5cc5a","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA9c089febd4d33cac3acb718365d5cc5a","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5109"}} [2026-08-11 11:57:05] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3556 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 11:57:05] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3556 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 11:57:06] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3556. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 11:57:07] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3556 [2026-08-11 11:57:44] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3557 → AssemblyAI 79600220-b327-45ff-8ad9-e4d10c383a1c [2026-08-11 11:58:24] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3558 → AssemblyAI 215fe35c-ba75-4d7a-be4f-a2f1591fe8ff [2026-08-11 11:58:45] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3557 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 11:58:45] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3557 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 11:58:46] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3557. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 11:58:47] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3557 [2026-08-11 11:59:25] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3558 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 11:59:25] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3558 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 11:59:25] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3558. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 11:59:25] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=institution) for recording 3558. [2026-08-11 12:00:26] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3559 → AssemblyAI 554ec89b-a215-4f34-84f6-22831fc94fba [2026-08-11 12:00:29] production.ERROR: Unable to retrieve the file_size for file at location: contact-attachments/839/image001.jpg. {"userId":22,"exception":"[object] (League\\Flysystem\\UnableToRetrieveMetadata(code: 0): Unable to retrieve the file_size for file at location: contact-attachments/839/image001.jpg. at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/league/flysystem/src/UnableToRetrieveMetadata.php:49) [stacktrace] #0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/league/flysystem/src/UnableToRetrieveMetadata.php(39): League\\Flysystem\\UnableToRetrieveMetadata::create('contact-attachm...', 'file_size', '', NULL) #1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/league/flysystem-local/LocalFilesystemAdapter.php(449): League\\Flysystem\\UnableToRetrieveMetadata::fileSize('contact-attachm...', '') #2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/league/flysystem/src/Filesystem.php(166): League\\Flysystem\\Local\\LocalFilesystemAdapter->fileSize('contact-attachm...') #3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/FilesystemAdapter.php(644): League\\Flysystem\\Filesystem->fileSize('contact-attachm...') #4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/FilesystemAdapter.php(334): Illuminate\\Filesystem\\FilesystemAdapter->size('contact-attachm...') #5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Controllers/Contact/AttachmentDownloadController.php(31): Illuminate\\Filesystem\\FilesystemAdapter->response('contact-attachm...', 'image001.jpg', Array) #6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): App\\Http\\Controllers\\Contact\\AttachmentDownloadController->preview(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(App\\Models\\Contact\\Hub\\ContactMessageAttachment)) #7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(App\\Http\\Controllers\\Contact\\AttachmentDownloadController), 'preview') #8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}() #9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route)) #10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(App\\Http\\Controllers\\Contact\\AttachmentDownloadController), 'preview') #11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController() #12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run() #13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Auth/Middleware/Authorize.php(59): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Auth\\Middleware\\Authorize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure), 'inbox.view') #16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/EnsureUserBelongsToSolicitor.php(32): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\EnsureUserBelongsToSolicitor->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Auth/Middleware/Authenticate.php(63): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Auth\\Middleware\\Authenticate->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure)) #32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route)) #41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TransformsRequest.php(21): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(31): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TransformsRequest->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TransformsRequest.php(21): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(51): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TransformsRequest->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #77 {main} "} [2026-08-11 12:00:37] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 12:00:37] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 12:00:40] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 12:00:53] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 12:01:04] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 12:01:08] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 12:01:15] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 12:01:22] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 12:01:23] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 12:01:27] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3559 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 12:01:27] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3559 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 12:01:27] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3559. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 12:01:27] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=institution) for recording 3559. [2026-08-11 12:01:28] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-72086e88-6693-4ea5-a68e-878efaa1bb91.pdf [2026-08-11 12:01:30] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 12:04:15] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAdb946fc1abe30446d7f8272186ca2903","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5110"} [2026-08-11 12:04:15] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5110,"CallSid":"CAdb946fc1abe30446d7f8272186ca2903","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAdb946fc1abe30446d7f8272186ca2903","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5110"}} [2026-08-11 12:04:17] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441618880834","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":"Belfast City","ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CA6211dbdcc8cdd2f5044a7bd4875ea92d","To":"+441618880834","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0E2MjExZGJkY2M4Y2RkMmY1MDQ0YTdiZDQ4NzVlYTkyZCIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQyODkwODkxODcwIiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE4ODgwODM0IiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NjQ0NjI1NyJ9.K1pIcbCcNDLAEPH_oUYlGV2SAJ63i6Zhy4GFm8Y6bQ4GPF5FITQernNCyCThd7bcAETipFclIB34JMu7LrXBBA%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+442890891870","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+442890891870","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":"Belfast City"} [2026-08-11 12:04:43] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CA6211dbdcc8cdd2f5044a7bd4875ea92d","DialCallSid":"CA842395b11fd83b61f5f6ecb4e44d91e7","DialCallStatus":"no-answer","DialCallDuration":null} [2026-08-11 12:04:53] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441615700550","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":"Glasgow","ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CAcac0843cae11deece1c0824644f64652","To":"+441615700550","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0FjYWMwODQzY2FlMTFkZWVjZTFjMDgyNDY0NGY2NDY1MiIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQxNDE2NDEzMDM3IiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE1NzAwNTUwIiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NjQ0NjI5MiJ9.FDn_NO5SlAzT8AcrFHiOOXKpB3aXDBmzpifSt7Mib-O_jHQsyuE7VJ3Yu3DMcQdIJCNehGv4fkQQXUc05D8kug%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+441416413037","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+441416413037","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":"Glasgow"} [2026-08-11 12:05:04] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 12:05:13] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 12:05:34] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3560 → AssemblyAI e9e3cfd9-6757-4649-ada0-74615b9cdfef [2026-08-11 12:06:26] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 12:06:35] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3560 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 12:06:35] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3560 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 12:06:35] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3560. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 12:06:36] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3560 [2026-08-11 12:07:29] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CAcac0843cae11deece1c0824644f64652","DialCallSid":"CA6a47848e2bded61fda987aa705851364","DialCallStatus":"completed","DialCallDuration":"151"} [2026-08-11 12:07:40] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3561 → AssemblyAI 46dc1bc2-a0d8-479c-8f1d-8ea2751c0f84 [2026-08-11 12:08:35] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 12:08:40] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 12:08:41] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3561 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 12:08:41] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3561 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 12:08:41] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3561. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 12:08:41] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=evidence) for recording 3561. [2026-08-11 12:08:55] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-3a911c33-36c5-4454-a4ad-2cc8c20a9cc4.pdf [2026-08-11 12:08:57] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 12:09:04] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 12:09:13] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3562 → AssemblyAI 501be9d7-599b-4454-96c1-44945b270aef [2026-08-11 12:10:14] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3562 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 12:10:14] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3562 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 12:10:14] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3562. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 12:10:15] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: recording 3562 marked 'initial' by agent disposition; skipping classifier. [2026-08-11 12:10:30] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAcc98beba269208139d2fad797df0268c","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5113"} [2026-08-11 12:10:30] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5113,"CallSid":"CAcc98beba269208139d2fad797df0268c","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAcc98beba269208139d2fad797df0268c","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5113"}} [2026-08-11 12:10:42] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 12:11:15] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: scorer returned for recording 3562. {"total_score":62,"risk_rating":"high_risk","has_sections":true} [2026-08-11 12:11:39] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3563 → AssemblyAI 3e6db2f7-9b1b-4f4b-adf8-ff49cb871af9 [2026-08-11 12:12:39] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3563 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 12:12:39] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3563 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 12:12:40] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3563. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 12:12:42] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3563 [2026-08-11 12:12:49] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA7147db29a451fb8ba6646d30348b0f30","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5114"} [2026-08-11 12:12:49] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5114,"CallSid":"CA7147db29a451fb8ba6646d30348b0f30","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA7147db29a451fb8ba6646d30348b0f30","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5114"}} [2026-08-11 12:13:54] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441615700550","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CA7187f019b1db5afcb9305c2fafbed5b9","To":"+441615700550","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0E3MTg3ZjAxOWIxZGI1YWZjYjkzMDVjMmZhZmJlZDViOSIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3OTM1NDA2NjcwIiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE1NzAwNTUwIiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NjQ0NjgzMyJ9.No2ZaJzbIlRSqJYH3tNSeOfRWIXhuYxY7C6wKJy5tQJeziqu3xQfV19sy0seL3bhFx5IKzQ9Fw-GYoChjM5_1g%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447935406670","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+447935406670","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} [2026-08-11 12:14:03] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3564 → AssemblyAI 772c9e96-9ac6-4071-89ce-9a69ceee6528 [2026-08-11 12:14:19] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 12:15:04] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3564 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 12:15:04] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3564 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 12:15:05] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3564. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 12:15:06] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3564 [2026-08-11 12:16:13] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CA7187f019b1db5afcb9305c2fafbed5b9","DialCallSid":"CAc1df38fb4b4c8e8386a96db10583e28c","DialCallStatus":"completed","DialCallDuration":"129"} [2026-08-11 12:16:22] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3565 → AssemblyAI e26ab0c1-aaae-4417-8909-33508e6a5272 [2026-08-11 12:16:56] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA60fae4823b620c16ddbd9075a2f4b6f7","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5116"} [2026-08-11 12:16:56] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5116,"CallSid":"CA60fae4823b620c16ddbd9075a2f4b6f7","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA60fae4823b620c16ddbd9075a2f4b6f7","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5116"}} [2026-08-11 12:17:23] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3565 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 12:17:23] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3565 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 12:17:23] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3565. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 12:17:24] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=evidence) for recording 3565. [2026-08-11 12:17:43] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 12:18:21] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3566 → AssemblyAI a7dd98d6-f24a-4289-879d-be4d1039327f [2026-08-11 12:19:06] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441618880834","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CAf5a0afe54d90b74dbaad77fd6a5fdf02","To":"+441618880834","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0FmNWEwYWZlNTRkOTBiNzRkYmFhZDc3ZmQ2YTVmZGYwMiIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3NTk0Nzc2ODQ2IiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE4ODgwODM0IiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NjQ0NzE0NSJ9.bo9KFWQvu_tQ6RT_R9bbqIaA2ueWqN2pFOj5LIVnePkyj5G4N93-QsYj21TDIwOM38IY4ZQkDP6vfFYCxyPmsw%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447594776846","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+447594776846","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} [2026-08-11 12:19:11] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: extracted text from attachment 10999 (Receiving_IEP-Windows2.docx). [2026-08-11 12:19:11] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: extracted text from attachment 11000 (Viewing DICOM Images.docx). [2026-08-11 12:19:14] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16390 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 12:19:16] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16390 — dsar_ref='', inst_ref='NHST014421'. [2026-08-11 12:19:21] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3566 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 12:19:21] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3566 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 12:19:22] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3566. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 12:19:23] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3566 [2026-08-11 12:19:31] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CAf5a0afe54d90b74dbaad77fd6a5fdf02","DialCallSid":"CA48b145f5bfbb916ac9a75720e9ee2326","DialCallStatus":"no-answer","DialCallDuration":null} [2026-08-11 12:19:34] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16390 — AI matcher dsar_id=571, confidence=high. [2026-08-11 12:19:34] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16390 linked to DSAR 571. [2026-08-11 12:19:34] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: saved receiver_reference 'NHST014421' for DSAR 571. [2026-08-11 12:19:35] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 12:19:36] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16390 response_type=portal_response. [2026-08-11 12:19:36] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16390 → triage_queue=portal_response (response_type=portal_response, dsar_id=571). [2026-08-11 12:19:44] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441618880834","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CA6194c21acbe36abde2719f1db880a8ab","To":"+441618880834","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0E2MTk0YzIxYWNiZTM2YWJkZTI3MTlmMWRiODgwYThhYiIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3NTk0Nzc2ODQ2IiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE4ODgwODM0IiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NjQ0NzE4NCJ9.Pk_M0VjL5TjzRBSTyI7M_Glldn9TzRtQTiFCUdnyKREjs9MsMJtS3Ky5H4wyHKx1Dnu4sAi-5wziPyrKjMgUAQ%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447594776846","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+447594776846","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} [2026-08-11 12:19:47] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAb920cc9c6bc89f09ddd55e5bc333304e","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5119"} [2026-08-11 12:19:47] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5119,"CallSid":"CAb920cc9c6bc89f09ddd55e5bc333304e","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAb920cc9c6bc89f09ddd55e5bc333304e","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5119"}} [2026-08-11 12:19:52] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAf1dd9b29d3de04f410e0abfd42028613","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5120"} [2026-08-11 12:19:52] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5120,"CallSid":"CAf1dd9b29d3de04f410e0abfd42028613","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAf1dd9b29d3de04f410e0abfd42028613","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5120"}} [2026-08-11 12:20:10] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CA6194c21acbe36abde2719f1db880a8ab","DialCallSid":"CA204469586d352e60cf43f7a1d60bf5a2","DialCallStatus":"no-answer","DialCallDuration":null} [2026-08-11 12:20:23] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3567 → AssemblyAI e063f62b-b39b-4f12-9645-bbc6c26eca2f [2026-08-11 12:20:28] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CA6194c21acbe36abde2719f1db880a8ab","DialCallSid":null,"DialCallStatus":null,"DialCallDuration":null} [2026-08-11 12:20:32] production.INFO: Broadcasting [Illuminate\Notifications\Events\BroadcastNotificationCreated] on channels [private-App.Models.User.User.36] with payload: { "type": "App\\Notifications\\VoicemailReceivedNotification", "title": "New Voicemail", "message": "From Donella Macleod \u00b7 0:05", "recording_id": 3568, "communication_id": 5118, "client_id": 1132, "caller_name": "Donella Macleod", "duration": 5, "solicitor_id": 3, "id": "33f80a98-ff41-4e06-9f20-7bea9d262b41", "socket": null } [2026-08-11 12:20:35] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3568 → AssemblyAI 711caf41-62c4-4ccb-a598-7ca958725450 [2026-08-11 12:21:05] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 12:21:24] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3567 → AssemblyAI status=error (check #0) [2026-08-11 12:21:24] production.ERROR: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: AssemblyAI error for recording 3567. {"assemblyai_id":"e063f62b-b39b-4f12-9645-bbc6c26eca2f","error":"Audio duration is too short."} [2026-08-11 12:21:36] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3568 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 12:21:36] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3568 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 12:21:36] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3568. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 12:21:36] production.WARNING: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: no completed transcript for recording 3568. [2026-08-11 12:21:45] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16391 classified as 'generic' (high). [2026-08-11 12:23:18] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 12:25:40] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} [2026-08-11 12:26:18] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} [2026-08-11 12:26:25] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA18cc49d1062c741c22e35a8f287a1a67","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5121"} [2026-08-11 12:26:25] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5121,"CallSid":"CA18cc49d1062c741c22e35a8f287a1a67","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA18cc49d1062c741c22e35a8f287a1a67","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5121"}} [2026-08-11 12:27:10] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 12:29:15] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441618880834","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CA858737e2c68f6041d989e2611822b443","To":"+441618880834","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0E4NTg3MzdlMmM2OGY2MDQxZDk4OWUyNjExODIyYjQ0MyIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3NTk0Nzc2ODQ2IiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE4ODgwODM0IiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NjQ0Nzc1NCJ9.zJZfxKbDszsVg1Z4DBLLngvpZ7S0zlyOVHshKhuGU2DdrqiRVA7YIHDcYU5c6MJWr9InI9p-R3sAG1cw-k_rPA%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447594776846","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+447594776846","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} [2026-08-11 12:31:01] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 12:31:26] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 12:32:06] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3569 → AssemblyAI b468c808-ae13-455f-bb9b-1162cc398a34 [2026-08-11 12:33:07] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3569 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 12:33:07] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3569 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 12:33:07] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3569. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 12:33:07] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=institution) for recording 3569. [2026-08-11 12:34:22] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11001 (message_v4.rpmsg) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 12:34:25] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16392 classified as 'generic' (high). [2026-08-11 12:35:51] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11002 (message_v4.rpmsg) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 12:35:54] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16393 classified as 'generic' (high). [2026-08-11 12:38:31] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAd5ebede807d2d5db0bff91e892e9c1ee","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5123"} [2026-08-11 12:38:31] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5123,"CallSid":"CAd5ebede807d2d5db0bff91e892e9c1ee","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAd5ebede807d2d5db0bff91e892e9c1ee","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5123"}} [2026-08-11 12:38:46] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAb6500aa6921dc0f672b9b56048d5befc","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5124"} [2026-08-11 12:38:46] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5124,"CallSid":"CAb6500aa6921dc0f672b9b56048d5befc","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAb6500aa6921dc0f672b9b56048d5befc","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5124"}} [2026-08-11 12:39:25] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3570 → AssemblyAI 92e93502-3920-4ffc-b8d4-6795c973df46 [2026-08-11 12:39:30] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11003 (image001.jpg) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 12:39:30] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: extracted text from attachment 11004 (IEP user guide.pdf). [2026-08-11 12:39:33] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16394 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 12:39:33] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16394 matched via regex reference 'DSAR-20260708-77AD83' → DSAR 3824. [2026-08-11 12:39:37] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16394 response_type=portal_response. [2026-08-11 12:39:37] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16394 → triage_queue=portal_response (response_type=portal_response, dsar_id=3824). [2026-08-11 12:40:25] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3570 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 12:40:25] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3570 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 12:40:26] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3570. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 12:40:26] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 3570 — too short to classify (duration=25s, words=81). [2026-08-11 12:40:51] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16395 classified as 'generic' (high). [2026-08-11 12:40:54] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01KZP3BQZ34KB69J0VC31E264S"} [2026-08-11 12:40:54] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01KZP3BR17KDX7DKV2K751HEDF"} [2026-08-11 12:40:55] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01KZP3BR1VTDBY8Y4NRJ343FJD"} [2026-08-11 12:40:56] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01KZP3BR2EY0X7FC4E50S2AVT0"} [2026-08-11 12:40:56] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01KZP3BR546KG5EZY8SF29SPYF"} [2026-08-11 12:40:57] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01KZP3BR646G4X0WPM3C2NV5TB"} [2026-08-11 12:40:58] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01KZP3BR6SBN4GYA13ZPPAB8E0"} [2026-08-11 12:40:58] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01KZP3BR7KR02WHERVYF3ACSA0"} [2026-08-11 12:40:59] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01KZP3BQZ34KB69J0VC31E264S"} [2026-08-11 12:41:00] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01KZP3BR17KDX7DKV2K751HEDF"} [2026-08-11 12:41:00] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01KZP3BR1VTDBY8Y4NRJ343FJD"} [2026-08-11 12:41:01] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01KZP3BR2EY0X7FC4E50S2AVT0"} [2026-08-11 12:41:02] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01KZP3BR546KG5EZY8SF29SPYF"} [2026-08-11 12:41:03] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01KZP3BR646G4X0WPM3C2NV5TB"} [2026-08-11 12:41:03] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01KZP3BR6SBN4GYA13ZPPAB8E0"} [2026-08-11 12:41:04] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01KZP3BR7KR02WHERVYF3ACSA0"} [2026-08-11 12:41:05] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01KZP3BQZ34KB69J0VC31E264S"} [2026-08-11 12:41:05] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01KZP3BQZ34KB69J0VC31E264S"} [2026-08-11 12:41:06] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01KZP3BR17KDX7DKV2K751HEDF"} [2026-08-11 12:41:07] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01KZP3BR17KDX7DKV2K751HEDF"} [2026-08-11 12:41:08] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01KZP3BR1VTDBY8Y4NRJ343FJD"} [2026-08-11 12:41:08] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01KZP3BR1VTDBY8Y4NRJ343FJD"} [2026-08-11 12:41:09] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01KZP3BR2EY0X7FC4E50S2AVT0"} [2026-08-11 12:41:09] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3571 → AssemblyAI 3ab33d26-4b37-49f0-8e78-eb2185e7e0e3 [2026-08-11 12:41:10] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01KZP3BR2EY0X7FC4E50S2AVT0"} [2026-08-11 12:41:10] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01KZP3BR546KG5EZY8SF29SPYF"} [2026-08-11 12:41:11] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01KZP3BR546KG5EZY8SF29SPYF"} [2026-08-11 12:41:12] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01KZP3BR646G4X0WPM3C2NV5TB"} [2026-08-11 12:41:13] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01KZP3BR646G4X0WPM3C2NV5TB"} [2026-08-11 12:41:13] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01KZP3BR6SBN4GYA13ZPPAB8E0"} [2026-08-11 12:41:14] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01KZP3BR6SBN4GYA13ZPPAB8E0"} [2026-08-11 12:41:15] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01KZP3BR7KR02WHERVYF3ACSA0"} [2026-08-11 12:41:15] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01KZP3BR7KR02WHERVYF3ACSA0"} [2026-08-11 12:41:16] production.INFO: Broadcasting [Illuminate\Notifications\Events\BroadcastNotificationCreated] on channels [private-App.Models.User.User.36] with payload: { "type": "App\\Notifications\\InitialDocumentsSignedNotification", "title": "Initial documents e-signed", "message": "Mr Ross Mcfadyen e-signed 8 documents", "client_id": 1224, "client_name": "Mr Ross Mcfadyen", "documents": [ "LOA", "Client Care Letter", "CFA", "Part 1", "Part 2", "Part 2 Extra", "Part 2 Extra", "Part 2 Extra" ], "id": "fd1b5c48-312e-48cb-9b75-7079d215b910", "socket": null } [2026-08-11 12:41:20] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} [2026-08-11 12:41:49] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16396 classified as 'generic' (high). [2026-08-11 12:42:11] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3571 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 12:42:11] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3571 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 12:42:11] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3571. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 12:42:12] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=follow_up for recording 3571 [2026-08-11 12:44:16] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CA858737e2c68f6041d989e2611822b443","DialCallSid":"CAdb5fe428a6f1a7af0d575df4fdbf3e0f","DialCallStatus":"completed","DialCallDuration":"887"} [2026-08-11 12:44:53] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3572 → AssemblyAI 978b6915-6ac1-4e72-ba02-c09d9df8f2f0 [2026-08-11 12:45:36] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 12:45:46] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-0a3501ef-3bcb-4efe-be9b-4b9f2ca832cb.pdf [2026-08-11 12:45:48] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 12:45:54] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3572 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 12:45:54] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3572 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 12:45:54] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3572. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 12:45:55] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 12:45:57] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=initial for recording 3572 [2026-08-11 12:46:34] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} [2026-08-11 12:46:55] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: scorer returned for recording 3572. {"total_score":62,"risk_rating":"high_risk","has_sections":true} [2026-08-11 12:52:24] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 12:52:34] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 12:52:49] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAc3e4b6abcb4afa2c504eecce1f55dde7","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5125"} [2026-08-11 12:52:49] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5125,"CallSid":"CAc3e4b6abcb4afa2c504eecce1f55dde7","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAc3e4b6abcb4afa2c504eecce1f55dde7","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5125"}} [2026-08-11 12:54:17] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3573 → AssemblyAI 3155d8da-d8d7-42de-abf2-10dc736e7187 [2026-08-11 12:54:21] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 12:54:50] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 12:54:54] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_2"} [2026-08-11 12:55:03] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 12:55:18] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3573 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 12:55:18] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3573 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 12:55:18] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3573. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 12:55:20] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3573 [2026-08-11 12:55:24] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 12:55:28] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 12:55:36] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11008 (image001.png) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 12:55:36] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11009 (image002.png) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 12:55:36] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11010 (image003.jpg) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 12:55:38] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16403 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 12:55:39] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16403 — dsar_ref='', inst_ref='DP8581668'. [2026-08-11 12:55:46] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 12:55:47] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 12:55:53] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA7d286b32f8060693a87b5f74de9758c2","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5126"} [2026-08-11 12:55:53] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5126,"CallSid":"CA7d286b32f8060693a87b5f74de9758c2","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA7d286b32f8060693a87b5f74de9758c2","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5126"}} [2026-08-11 12:55:56] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16403 — AI matcher dsar_id=1710, confidence=high. [2026-08-11 12:55:56] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16403 linked to DSAR 1710. [2026-08-11 12:55:56] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: saved receiver_reference 'DP8581668' for DSAR 1710. [2026-08-11 12:55:56] production.WARNING: Twilio webhook signature validation failed. {"url":"https://ha.fintrixor.co.uk/webhook/twilio/status","signature":"45BTJ6baQDlvxpu8IS2GG9/Q6/g=","params":["Called","ParentCallSid","ToState","CallerCountry","Direction","Timestamp","CallbackSource","SipResponseCode","CallerState","ToZip","SequenceNumber","CallSid","To","CallerZip","ToCountry","CalledZip","ApiVersion","CalledCity","CallStatus","Duration","From","CallDuration","AccountSid","CalledCountry","CallerCity","ToCity","FromCountry","Caller","FromCity","CalledState","ErrorCode","FromZip","ErrorMessage","FromState"]} [2026-08-11 12:55:58] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16403 response_type=delay_notice. [2026-08-11 12:55:58] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16403 → triage_queue=dsar_updates (response_type=delay_notice, dsar_id=1710). [2026-08-11 12:55:58] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16403 auto-set DSAR 1710 status → acknowledged (response_type=delay_notice). [2026-08-11 12:56:29] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 12:56:36] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA305202febca73e2f9fa5ec6a75d0fbba","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5127"} [2026-08-11 12:56:36] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5127,"CallSid":"CA305202febca73e2f9fa5ec6a75d0fbba","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA305202febca73e2f9fa5ec6a75d0fbba","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5127"}} [2026-08-11 12:57:38] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 12:57:43] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3574 → AssemblyAI 7fe06b58-870b-47e6-ae99-0f41c9ec6d9b [2026-08-11 12:57:47] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 12:57:57] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 12:58:17] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRB01XQ0Q5SW09R7B5RT09T"} [2026-08-11 12:58:17] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZRB01XQ0Q5SW09R7B5RT09T"} [2026-08-11 12:58:18] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRB01ZAX5Q7B4HT6A2YMQHK"} [2026-08-11 12:58:18] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZRB01ZAX5Q7B4HT6A2YMQHK"} [2026-08-11 12:58:18] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRB01ZPNS7PEGW6H184X514"} [2026-08-11 12:58:18] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZRB01ZPNS7PEGW6H184X514"} [2026-08-11 12:58:19] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRB02055QHWKWEJ600JAM45"} [2026-08-11 12:58:19] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZRB02055QHWKWEJ600JAM45"} [2026-08-11 12:58:20] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRB02297R2AM9EMNHPGXAZB"} [2026-08-11 12:58:20] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZRB02297R2AM9EMNHPGXAZB"} [2026-08-11 12:58:20] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRB02334D7Y22G15B3QWC98"} [2026-08-11 12:58:20] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZRB02334D7Y22G15B3QWC98"} [2026-08-11 12:58:21] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRB023JCHXMBH51TQWDRH7S"} [2026-08-11 12:58:21] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZRB023JCHXMBH51TQWDRH7S"} [2026-08-11 12:58:22] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRB0240HR5N9E6TWMV0GQ7S"} [2026-08-11 12:58:22] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZRB0240HR5N9E6TWMV0GQ7S"} [2026-08-11 12:58:28] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRB01XQ0Q5SW09R7B5RT09T"} [2026-08-11 12:58:28] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZRB01XQ0Q5SW09R7B5RT09T"} [2026-08-11 12:58:29] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRB01ZAX5Q7B4HT6A2YMQHK"} [2026-08-11 12:58:29] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZRB01ZAX5Q7B4HT6A2YMQHK"} [2026-08-11 12:58:30] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRB01ZPNS7PEGW6H184X514"} [2026-08-11 12:58:30] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZRB01ZPNS7PEGW6H184X514"} [2026-08-11 12:58:30] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRB02055QHWKWEJ600JAM45"} [2026-08-11 12:58:30] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZRB02055QHWKWEJ600JAM45"} [2026-08-11 12:58:31] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRB02297R2AM9EMNHPGXAZB"} [2026-08-11 12:58:31] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZRB02297R2AM9EMNHPGXAZB"} [2026-08-11 12:58:32] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRB02334D7Y22G15B3QWC98"} [2026-08-11 12:58:32] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZRB02334D7Y22G15B3QWC98"} [2026-08-11 12:58:32] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRB023JCHXMBH51TQWDRH7S"} [2026-08-11 12:58:32] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZRB023JCHXMBH51TQWDRH7S"} [2026-08-11 12:58:33] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRB0240HR5N9E6TWMV0GQ7S"} [2026-08-11 12:58:33] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZRB0240HR5N9E6TWMV0GQ7S"} [2026-08-11 12:58:44] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3574 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 12:58:44] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3574 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 12:58:44] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3574. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 12:58:45] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3574 [2026-08-11 12:59:10] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAdc31702cc120ce7376c3f8a7c1d8bf06","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5128"} [2026-08-11 12:59:10] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5128,"CallSid":"CAdc31702cc120ce7376c3f8a7c1d8bf06","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAdc31702cc120ce7376c3f8a7c1d8bf06","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5128"}} [2026-08-11 12:59:31] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRB01XQ0Q5SW09R7B5RT09T"} [2026-08-11 12:59:31] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZRB01XQ0Q5SW09R7B5RT09T"} [2026-08-11 12:59:31] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRB01ZAX5Q7B4HT6A2YMQHK"} [2026-08-11 12:59:31] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZRB01ZAX5Q7B4HT6A2YMQHK"} [2026-08-11 12:59:32] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRB01ZPNS7PEGW6H184X514"} [2026-08-11 12:59:32] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZRB01ZPNS7PEGW6H184X514"} [2026-08-11 12:59:33] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRB02055QHWKWEJ600JAM45"} [2026-08-11 12:59:33] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZRB02055QHWKWEJ600JAM45"} [2026-08-11 12:59:33] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRB02297R2AM9EMNHPGXAZB"} [2026-08-11 12:59:33] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZRB02297R2AM9EMNHPGXAZB"} [2026-08-11 12:59:34] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRB02334D7Y22G15B3QWC98"} [2026-08-11 12:59:34] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZRB02334D7Y22G15B3QWC98"} [2026-08-11 12:59:35] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRB023JCHXMBH51TQWDRH7S"} [2026-08-11 12:59:35] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZRB023JCHXMBH51TQWDRH7S"} [2026-08-11 12:59:35] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRB0240HR5N9E6TWMV0GQ7S"} [2026-08-11 12:59:35] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZRB0240HR5N9E6TWMV0GQ7S"} [2026-08-11 13:00:20] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 13:00:24] production.INFO: eSign signing-link email: firing trigger (single request link) {"contract_request_id":999,"documents":8,"has_signing_url":true} [2026-08-11 13:00:27] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01KZRB01XQ0Q5SW09R7B5RT09T"} [2026-08-11 13:00:28] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01KZRB01ZAX5Q7B4HT6A2YMQHK"} [2026-08-11 13:00:28] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01KZRB01ZPNS7PEGW6H184X514"} [2026-08-11 13:00:29] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01KZRB02055QHWKWEJ600JAM45"} [2026-08-11 13:00:30] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01KZRB02297R2AM9EMNHPGXAZB"} [2026-08-11 13:00:30] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA1d1bcba6d5c003893660eabf36bb43a5","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5129"} [2026-08-11 13:00:30] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5129,"CallSid":"CA1d1bcba6d5c003893660eabf36bb43a5","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA1d1bcba6d5c003893660eabf36bb43a5","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5129"}} [2026-08-11 13:00:30] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01KZRB02334D7Y22G15B3QWC98"} [2026-08-11 13:00:31] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01KZRB023JCHXMBH51TQWDRH7S"} [2026-08-11 13:00:32] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01KZRB0240HR5N9E6TWMV0GQ7S"} [2026-08-11 13:00:34] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 13:00:36] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 13:00:40] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAf642ce370aa5ac5fd0a108fee00991fd","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5130"} [2026-08-11 13:00:40] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5130,"CallSid":"CAf642ce370aa5ac5fd0a108fee00991fd","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAf642ce370aa5ac5fd0a108fee00991fd","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5130"}} [2026-08-11 13:01:06] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 13:01:21] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 13:01:27] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 13:01:30] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} [2026-08-11 13:01:38] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-f32628e5-00b0-46ed-a3ff-a6c31a8594a7.pdf [2026-08-11 13:01:40] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 13:01:49] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAaac7d98793e709f141fa152cbc5f8c18","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5131"} [2026-08-11 13:01:49] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5131,"CallSid":"CAaac7d98793e709f141fa152cbc5f8c18","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAaac7d98793e709f141fa152cbc5f8c18","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5131"}} [2026-08-11 13:01:59] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 13:02:35] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3575 → AssemblyAI eaf59e33-b8f9-4f68-9340-24decb4e511f [2026-08-11 13:02:39] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01KZRB01XQ0Q5SW09R7B5RT09T"} [2026-08-11 13:02:39] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01KZRB01ZAX5Q7B4HT6A2YMQHK"} [2026-08-11 13:02:40] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01KZRB01ZPNS7PEGW6H184X514"} [2026-08-11 13:02:41] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01KZRB02055QHWKWEJ600JAM45"} [2026-08-11 13:02:41] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01KZRB02297R2AM9EMNHPGXAZB"} [2026-08-11 13:02:42] production.WARNING: ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob: per-page parse failed for document 12166: Secured pdf file are currently not supported. [2026-08-11 13:02:42] production.INFO: ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob: document 12166 — pages=0, large=no. [2026-08-11 13:02:42] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01KZRB02334D7Y22G15B3QWC98"} [2026-08-11 13:02:43] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01KZRB023JCHXMBH51TQWDRH7S"} [2026-08-11 13:02:43] production.ERROR: ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob: failed for document 12166. {"error":"HTTP request returned status code 400: {\"type\":\"error\",\"error\":{\"type\":\"invalid_request_error\",\"message\":\"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF (truncated...) "} [2026-08-11 13:02:43] production.ERROR: HTTP request returned status code 400: {"type":"error","error":{"type":"invalid_request_error","message":"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF (truncated...) {"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\RequestException(code: 400): HTTP request returned status code 400: {\"type\":\"error\",\"error\":{\"type\":\"invalid_request_error\",\"message\":\"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF (truncated...) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/Response.php:332) [stacktrace] #0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/Response.php(348): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response->toException() #1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1064): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response->throw(Object(Closure)) #2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(393): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}:1043}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response)) #3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1043): tap(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response), Object(Closure)) #4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1) #5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure)) #6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(885): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('POST', 'https://api.ant...', Array) #7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Gateway/Anthropic/AnthropicGateway.php(68): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->post('messages', Array) #8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Gateway/Concerns/HandlesFailoverErrors.php(24): Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway->{closure:Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway::generateText():68}() #9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Gateway/Anthropic/AnthropicGateway.php(66): Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway->withErrorHandling('anthropic', Object(Closure)) #10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Providers/Concerns/GeneratesText.php(63): Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway->generateText(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider), 'claude-sonnet-4...', 'You are Synapse...', Array, Array, Array, Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\TextGenerationOptions), 60) #11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider->{closure:Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\Concerns\\GeneratesText::prompt():47}(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Prompts\\AgentPrompt)) #12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Prompts\\AgentPrompt)) #13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Providers/Concerns/GeneratesText.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Promptable.php(60): Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider->prompt(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Prompts\\AgentPrompt)) #15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Promptable.php(197): App\\Synapse\\Agents\\VerifyDsarDocumentAgent->{closure:Laravel\\Ai\\Promptable::prompt():60}(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider), 'claude-sonnet-4...') #16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Promptable.php(59): App\\Synapse\\Agents\\VerifyDsarDocumentAgent->withModelFailover(Object(Closure), Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider), 'claude-sonnet-4...') #17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob.php(310): App\\Synapse\\Agents\\VerifyDsarDocumentAgent->prompt('Filename: Pages...', Array) #18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob.php(109): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob->extractFromFile('Pages BS Vol 2 ...', 'application/pdf', Array, Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Files\\StoredDocument), 12166, 1, 2988, Object(App\\Models\\Document\\Document), true) #19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob->handle() #20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}() #21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure)) #22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure)) #23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL) #24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array) #25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob)) #26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob)) #27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob), false) #29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob)) #30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob)) #31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob)) #33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array) #34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire() #35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default') #39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle() #40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}() #41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure)) #42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure)) #43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL) #44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array) #45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput)) #53 {main} "} [2026-08-11 13:02:43] production.ERROR: ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob: permanently failed for document 12166. {"error":"HTTP request returned status code 400: {\"type\":\"error\",\"error\":{\"type\":\"invalid_request_error\",\"message\":\"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF (truncated...) "} [2026-08-11 13:02:43] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01KZRB0240HR5N9E6TWMV0GQ7S"} [2026-08-11 13:02:46] production.WARNING: ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob: per-page parse failed for document 12165: Secured pdf file are currently not supported. [2026-08-11 13:02:46] production.INFO: ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob: document 12165 — pages=0, large=no. [2026-08-11 13:02:47] production.ERROR: ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob: failed for document 12165. {"error":"HTTP request returned status code 400: {\"type\":\"error\",\"error\":{\"type\":\"invalid_request_error\",\"message\":\"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF (truncated...) "} [2026-08-11 13:02:47] production.ERROR: HTTP request returned status code 400: {"type":"error","error":{"type":"invalid_request_error","message":"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF (truncated...) {"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\RequestException(code: 400): HTTP request returned status code 400: {\"type\":\"error\",\"error\":{\"type\":\"invalid_request_error\",\"message\":\"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF (truncated...) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/Response.php:332) [stacktrace] #0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/Response.php(348): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response->toException() #1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1064): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response->throw(Object(Closure)) #2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(393): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}:1043}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response)) #3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1043): tap(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response), Object(Closure)) #4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1) #5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure)) #6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(885): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('POST', 'https://api.ant...', Array) #7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Gateway/Anthropic/AnthropicGateway.php(68): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->post('messages', Array) #8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Gateway/Concerns/HandlesFailoverErrors.php(24): Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway->{closure:Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway::generateText():68}() #9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Gateway/Anthropic/AnthropicGateway.php(66): Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway->withErrorHandling('anthropic', Object(Closure)) #10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Providers/Concerns/GeneratesText.php(63): Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway->generateText(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider), 'claude-sonnet-4...', 'You are Synapse...', Array, Array, Array, Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\TextGenerationOptions), 60) #11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider->{closure:Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\Concerns\\GeneratesText::prompt():47}(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Prompts\\AgentPrompt)) #12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Prompts\\AgentPrompt)) #13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Providers/Concerns/GeneratesText.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Promptable.php(60): Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider->prompt(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Prompts\\AgentPrompt)) #15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Promptable.php(197): App\\Synapse\\Agents\\VerifyDsarDocumentAgent->{closure:Laravel\\Ai\\Promptable::prompt():60}(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider), 'claude-sonnet-4...') #16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Promptable.php(59): App\\Synapse\\Agents\\VerifyDsarDocumentAgent->withModelFailover(Object(Closure), Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider), 'claude-sonnet-4...') #17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob.php(310): App\\Synapse\\Agents\\VerifyDsarDocumentAgent->prompt('Filename: Pages...', Array) #18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob.php(109): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob->extractFromFile('Pages BS Vol 2 ...', 'application/pdf', Array, Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Files\\StoredDocument), 12165, 1, 2988, Object(App\\Models\\Document\\Document), true) #19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob->handle() #20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}() #21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure)) #22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure)) #23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL) #24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array) #25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob)) #26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob)) #27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob), false) #29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob)) #30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob)) #31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob)) #33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array) #34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire() #35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default') #39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle() #40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}() #41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure)) #42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure)) #43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL) #44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array) #45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput)) #53 {main} "} [2026-08-11 13:02:47] production.ERROR: ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob: permanently failed for document 12165. {"error":"HTTP request returned status code 400: {\"type\":\"error\",\"error\":{\"type\":\"invalid_request_error\",\"message\":\"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF (truncated...) "} [2026-08-11 13:02:48] production.WARNING: ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob: per-page parse failed for document 12164: Secured pdf file are currently not supported. [2026-08-11 13:02:48] production.INFO: ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob: document 12164 — pages=0, large=no. [2026-08-11 13:02:48] production.ERROR: ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob: failed for document 12164. {"error":"HTTP request returned status code 400: {\"type\":\"error\",\"error\":{\"type\":\"invalid_request_error\",\"message\":\"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF (truncated...) "} [2026-08-11 13:02:49] production.ERROR: HTTP request returned status code 400: {"type":"error","error":{"type":"invalid_request_error","message":"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF (truncated...) {"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\RequestException(code: 400): HTTP request returned status code 400: {\"type\":\"error\",\"error\":{\"type\":\"invalid_request_error\",\"message\":\"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF (truncated...) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/Response.php:332) [stacktrace] #0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/Response.php(348): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response->toException() #1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1064): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response->throw(Object(Closure)) #2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(393): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}:1043}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response)) #3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1043): tap(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response), Object(Closure)) #4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1) #5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure)) #6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(885): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('POST', 'https://api.ant...', Array) #7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Gateway/Anthropic/AnthropicGateway.php(68): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->post('messages', Array) #8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Gateway/Concerns/HandlesFailoverErrors.php(24): Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway->{closure:Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway::generateText():68}() #9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Gateway/Anthropic/AnthropicGateway.php(66): Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway->withErrorHandling('anthropic', Object(Closure)) #10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Providers/Concerns/GeneratesText.php(63): Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway->generateText(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider), 'claude-sonnet-4...', 'You are Synapse...', Array, Array, Array, Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\TextGenerationOptions), 60) #11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider->{closure:Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\Concerns\\GeneratesText::prompt():47}(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Prompts\\AgentPrompt)) #12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Prompts\\AgentPrompt)) #13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Providers/Concerns/GeneratesText.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Promptable.php(60): Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider->prompt(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Prompts\\AgentPrompt)) #15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Promptable.php(197): App\\Synapse\\Agents\\VerifyDsarDocumentAgent->{closure:Laravel\\Ai\\Promptable::prompt():60}(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider), 'claude-sonnet-4...') #16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Promptable.php(59): App\\Synapse\\Agents\\VerifyDsarDocumentAgent->withModelFailover(Object(Closure), Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider), 'claude-sonnet-4...') #17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob.php(310): App\\Synapse\\Agents\\VerifyDsarDocumentAgent->prompt('Filename: Pages...', Array) #18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob.php(109): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob->extractFromFile('Pages BS Vol 2 ...', 'application/pdf', Array, Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Files\\StoredDocument), 12164, 1, 2988, Object(App\\Models\\Document\\Document), true) #19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob->handle() #20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}() #21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure)) #22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure)) #23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL) #24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array) #25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob)) #26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob)) #27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob), false) #29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob)) #30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob)) #31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob)) #33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array) #34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire() #35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default') #39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle() #40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}() #41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure)) #42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure)) #43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL) #44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array) #45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput)) #53 {main} "} [2026-08-11 13:02:49] production.ERROR: ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob: permanently failed for document 12164. {"error":"HTTP request returned status code 400: {\"type\":\"error\",\"error\":{\"type\":\"invalid_request_error\",\"message\":\"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF (truncated...) "} [2026-08-11 13:02:56] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01KZRB01XQ0Q5SW09R7B5RT09T"} [2026-08-11 13:02:57] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01KZRB01ZAX5Q7B4HT6A2YMQHK"} [2026-08-11 13:02:57] production.WARNING: ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob: per-page parse failed for document 12165: Secured pdf file are currently not supported. [2026-08-11 13:02:57] production.INFO: ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob: document 12165 — pages=0, large=no. [2026-08-11 13:02:57] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01KZRB01ZPNS7PEGW6H184X514"} [2026-08-11 13:02:58] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01KZRB02055QHWKWEJ600JAM45"} [2026-08-11 13:02:59] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01KZRB02297R2AM9EMNHPGXAZB"} [2026-08-11 13:02:59] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01KZRB02334D7Y22G15B3QWC98"} [2026-08-11 13:02:59] production.ERROR: ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob: failed for document 12165. {"error":"HTTP request returned status code 400: {\"type\":\"error\",\"error\":{\"type\":\"invalid_request_error\",\"message\":\"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF (truncated...) "} [2026-08-11 13:02:59] production.ERROR: HTTP request returned status code 400: {"type":"error","error":{"type":"invalid_request_error","message":"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF (truncated...) {"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\RequestException(code: 400): HTTP request returned status code 400: {\"type\":\"error\",\"error\":{\"type\":\"invalid_request_error\",\"message\":\"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF (truncated...) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/Response.php:332) [stacktrace] #0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/Response.php(348): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response->toException() #1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1064): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response->throw(Object(Closure)) #2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(393): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}:1043}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response)) #3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1043): tap(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response), Object(Closure)) #4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1) #5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure)) #6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(885): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('POST', 'https://api.ant...', Array) #7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Gateway/Anthropic/AnthropicGateway.php(68): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->post('messages', Array) #8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Gateway/Concerns/HandlesFailoverErrors.php(24): Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway->{closure:Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway::generateText():68}() #9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Gateway/Anthropic/AnthropicGateway.php(66): Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway->withErrorHandling('anthropic', Object(Closure)) #10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Providers/Concerns/GeneratesText.php(63): Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway->generateText(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider), 'claude-sonnet-4...', 'You are Synapse...', Array, Array, Array, Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\TextGenerationOptions), 60) #11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider->{closure:Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\Concerns\\GeneratesText::prompt():47}(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Prompts\\AgentPrompt)) #12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Prompts\\AgentPrompt)) #13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Providers/Concerns/GeneratesText.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Promptable.php(60): Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider->prompt(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Prompts\\AgentPrompt)) #15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Promptable.php(197): App\\Synapse\\Agents\\VerifyDsarDocumentAgent->{closure:Laravel\\Ai\\Promptable::prompt():60}(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider), 'claude-sonnet-4...') #16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Promptable.php(59): App\\Synapse\\Agents\\VerifyDsarDocumentAgent->withModelFailover(Object(Closure), Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider), 'claude-sonnet-4...') #17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob.php(310): App\\Synapse\\Agents\\VerifyDsarDocumentAgent->prompt('Filename: Pages...', Array) #18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob.php(109): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob->extractFromFile('Pages BS Vol 2 ...', 'application/pdf', Array, Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Files\\StoredDocument), 12165, 1, 2988, Object(App\\Models\\Document\\Document), true) #19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob->handle() #20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}() #21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure)) #22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure)) #23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL) #24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array) #25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob)) #26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob)) #27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob), false) #29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob)) #30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob)) #31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob)) #33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array) #34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire() #35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default') #39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle() #40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}() #41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure)) #42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure)) #43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL) #44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array) #45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput)) #53 {main} "} [2026-08-11 13:02:59] production.ERROR: ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob: permanently failed for document 12165. {"error":"HTTP request returned status code 400: {\"type\":\"error\",\"error\":{\"type\":\"invalid_request_error\",\"message\":\"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF (truncated...) "} [2026-08-11 13:03:00] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01KZRB023JCHXMBH51TQWDRH7S"} [2026-08-11 13:03:01] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01KZRB0240HR5N9E6TWMV0GQ7S"} [2026-08-11 13:03:01] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01KZRB01XQ0Q5SW09R7B5RT09T"} [2026-08-11 13:03:02] production.WARNING: ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob: per-page parse failed for document 12147: Secured pdf file are currently not supported. [2026-08-11 13:03:02] production.INFO: ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob: document 12147 — pages=0, large=no. [2026-08-11 13:03:02] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01KZRB01XQ0Q5SW09R7B5RT09T"} [2026-08-11 13:03:02] production.ERROR: ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob: failed for document 12147. {"error":"HTTP request returned status code 400: {\"type\":\"error\",\"error\":{\"type\":\"invalid_request_error\",\"message\":\"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF (truncated...) "} [2026-08-11 13:03:02] production.ERROR: HTTP request returned status code 400: {"type":"error","error":{"type":"invalid_request_error","message":"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF (truncated...) {"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\RequestException(code: 400): HTTP request returned status code 400: {\"type\":\"error\",\"error\":{\"type\":\"invalid_request_error\",\"message\":\"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF (truncated...) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/Response.php:332) [stacktrace] #0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/Response.php(348): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response->toException() #1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1064): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response->throw(Object(Closure)) #2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(393): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}:1043}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response)) #3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1043): tap(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response), Object(Closure)) #4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1) #5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure)) #6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(885): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('POST', 'https://api.ant...', Array) #7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Gateway/Anthropic/AnthropicGateway.php(68): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->post('messages', Array) #8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Gateway/Concerns/HandlesFailoverErrors.php(24): Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway->{closure:Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway::generateText():68}() #9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Gateway/Anthropic/AnthropicGateway.php(66): Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway->withErrorHandling('anthropic', Object(Closure)) #10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Providers/Concerns/GeneratesText.php(63): Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway->generateText(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider), 'claude-sonnet-4...', 'You are Synapse...', Array, Array, Array, Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\TextGenerationOptions), 60) #11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider->{closure:Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\Concerns\\GeneratesText::prompt():47}(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Prompts\\AgentPrompt)) #12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Prompts\\AgentPrompt)) #13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Providers/Concerns/GeneratesText.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Promptable.php(60): Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider->prompt(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Prompts\\AgentPrompt)) #15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Promptable.php(197): App\\Synapse\\Agents\\VerifyDsarDocumentAgent->{closure:Laravel\\Ai\\Promptable::prompt():60}(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider), 'claude-sonnet-4...') #16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Promptable.php(59): App\\Synapse\\Agents\\VerifyDsarDocumentAgent->withModelFailover(Object(Closure), Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider), 'claude-sonnet-4...') #17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob.php(310): App\\Synapse\\Agents\\VerifyDsarDocumentAgent->prompt('Filename: cs Re...', Array) #18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob.php(109): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob->extractFromFile('cs Referrals .p...', 'application/pdf', Array, Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Files\\StoredDocument), 12147, 1, 2988, Object(App\\Models\\Document\\Document), true) #19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob->handle() #20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}() #21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure)) #22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure)) #23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL) #24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array) #25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob)) #26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob)) #27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob), false) #29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob)) #30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob)) #31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob)) #33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array) #34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire() #35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default') #39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle() #40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}() #41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure)) #42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure)) #43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL) #44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array) #45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput)) #53 {main} "} [2026-08-11 13:03:02] production.ERROR: ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob: permanently failed for document 12147. {"error":"HTTP request returned status code 400: {\"type\":\"error\",\"error\":{\"type\":\"invalid_request_error\",\"message\":\"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF (truncated...) "} [2026-08-11 13:03:03] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01KZRB01ZAX5Q7B4HT6A2YMQHK"} [2026-08-11 13:03:03] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01KZRB01ZAX5Q7B4HT6A2YMQHK"} [2026-08-11 13:03:04] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01KZRB01ZPNS7PEGW6H184X514"} [2026-08-11 13:03:05] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01KZRB01ZPNS7PEGW6H184X514"} [2026-08-11 13:03:05] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 13:03:06] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01KZRB02055QHWKWEJ600JAM45"} [2026-08-11 13:03:06] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01KZRB02055QHWKWEJ600JAM45"} [2026-08-11 13:03:07] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01KZRB02297R2AM9EMNHPGXAZB"} [2026-08-11 13:03:08] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01KZRB02297R2AM9EMNHPGXAZB"} [2026-08-11 13:03:09] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01KZRB02334D7Y22G15B3QWC98"} [2026-08-11 13:03:09] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01KZRB02334D7Y22G15B3QWC98"} [2026-08-11 13:03:10] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01KZRB023JCHXMBH51TQWDRH7S"} [2026-08-11 13:03:11] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01KZRB023JCHXMBH51TQWDRH7S"} [2026-08-11 13:03:11] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01KZRB0240HR5N9E6TWMV0GQ7S"} [2026-08-11 13:03:12] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01KZRB0240HR5N9E6TWMV0GQ7S"} [2026-08-11 13:03:12] production.WARNING: ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob: per-page parse failed for document 12152: Secured pdf file are currently not supported. [2026-08-11 13:03:12] production.INFO: ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob: document 12152 — pages=0, large=no. [2026-08-11 13:03:13] production.INFO: Broadcasting [Illuminate\Notifications\Events\BroadcastNotificationCreated] on channels [private-App.Models.User.User.36] with payload: { "type": "App\\Notifications\\InitialDocumentsSignedNotification", "title": "Initial documents e-signed", "message": "Miss Joanne Kirsty Shepherd e-signed 8 documents", "client_id": 1365, "client_name": "Miss Joanne Kirsty Shepherd", "documents": [ "LOA", "Client Care Letter", "CFA", "Part 1", "Part 2", "Part 2 Extra", "Part 2 Extra", "Part 2 Extra" ], "id": "51ba85f9-cf2b-4a34-b5b3-a00d651b8811", "socket": null } [2026-08-11 13:03:13] production.ERROR: ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob: failed for document 12152. {"error":"HTTP request returned status code 400: {\"type\":\"error\",\"error\":{\"type\":\"invalid_request_error\",\"message\":\"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF (truncated...) "} [2026-08-11 13:03:13] production.ERROR: HTTP request returned status code 400: {"type":"error","error":{"type":"invalid_request_error","message":"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF (truncated...) {"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\RequestException(code: 400): HTTP request returned status code 400: {\"type\":\"error\",\"error\":{\"type\":\"invalid_request_error\",\"message\":\"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF (truncated...) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/Response.php:332) [stacktrace] #0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/Response.php(348): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response->toException() #1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1064): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response->throw(Object(Closure)) #2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(393): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}:1043}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response)) #3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1043): tap(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response), Object(Closure)) #4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1) #5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure)) #6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(885): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('POST', 'https://api.ant...', Array) #7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Gateway/Anthropic/AnthropicGateway.php(68): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->post('messages', Array) #8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Gateway/Concerns/HandlesFailoverErrors.php(24): Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway->{closure:Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway::generateText():68}() #9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Gateway/Anthropic/AnthropicGateway.php(66): Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway->withErrorHandling('anthropic', Object(Closure)) #10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Providers/Concerns/GeneratesText.php(63): Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway->generateText(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider), 'claude-sonnet-4...', 'You are Synapse...', Array, Array, Array, Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\TextGenerationOptions), 60) #11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider->{closure:Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\Concerns\\GeneratesText::prompt():47}(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Prompts\\AgentPrompt)) #12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Prompts\\AgentPrompt)) #13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Providers/Concerns/GeneratesText.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Promptable.php(60): Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider->prompt(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Prompts\\AgentPrompt)) #15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Promptable.php(197): App\\Synapse\\Agents\\VerifyDsarDocumentAgent->{closure:Laravel\\Ai\\Promptable::prompt():60}(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider), 'claude-sonnet-4...') #16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Promptable.php(59): App\\Synapse\\Agents\\VerifyDsarDocumentAgent->withModelFailover(Object(Closure), Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider), 'claude-sonnet-4...') #17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob.php(310): App\\Synapse\\Agents\\VerifyDsarDocumentAgent->prompt('Filename: Pages...', Array) #18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob.php(109): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob->extractFromFile('Pages Docman 20...', 'application/pdf', Array, Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Files\\StoredDocument), 12152, 1, 2988, Object(App\\Models\\Document\\Document), true) #19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob->handle() #20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}() #21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure)) #22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure)) #23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL) #24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array) #25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob)) #26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob)) #27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob), false) #29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob)) #30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob)) #31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob)) #33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array) #34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire() #35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default') #39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle() #40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}() #41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure)) #42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure)) #43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL) #44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array) #45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput)) #53 {main} "} [2026-08-11 13:03:13] production.ERROR: ExtractEvidenceFromDocumentJob: permanently failed for document 12152. {"error":"HTTP request returned status code 400: {\"type\":\"error\",\"error\":{\"type\":\"invalid_request_error\",\"message\":\"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF (truncated...) "} [2026-08-11 13:03:15] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 13:03:18] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 13:03:35] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3575 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 13:03:35] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3575 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 13:03:36] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3575. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 13:03:38] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3575 [2026-08-11 13:03:53] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3576 → AssemblyAI 815a7c22-208e-4bb9-83cf-de11ec0169a6 [2026-08-11 13:04:31] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRB01XQ0Q5SW09R7B5RT09T"} [2026-08-11 13:04:33] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 13:04:35] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRB01ZAX5Q7B4HT6A2YMQHK"} [2026-08-11 13:04:35] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRB01ZPNS7PEGW6H184X514"} [2026-08-11 13:04:36] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRB02055QHWKWEJ600JAM45"} [2026-08-11 13:04:37] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRB02297R2AM9EMNHPGXAZB"} [2026-08-11 13:04:38] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRB02334D7Y22G15B3QWC98"} [2026-08-11 13:04:39] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 13:04:39] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRB023JCHXMBH51TQWDRH7S"} [2026-08-11 13:04:40] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRB0240HR5N9E6TWMV0GQ7S"} [2026-08-11 13:04:40] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 13:04:46] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 13:04:52] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 13:04:54] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3576 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 13:04:54] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3576 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 13:04:54] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3576. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 13:04:55] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 13:04:55] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=follow_up for recording 3576 [2026-08-11 13:05:03] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 13:05:08] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 13:05:18] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 13:05:18] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 13:05:21] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 13:05:23] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 13:05:26] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 13:05:28] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 13:05:31] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 13:05:32] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 13:05:34] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 13:05:41] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 13:05:45] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 13:05:50] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 13:05:52] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 13:05:53] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 13:05:57] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 13:06:00] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 13:06:03] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 13:06:04] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 13:06:07] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 13:06:12] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 13:06:12] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 13:06:15] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 13:06:15] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 13:06:21] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 13:06:24] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 13:06:24] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 13:06:27] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16416 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 13:06:28] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16416 matched via regex reference 'DSAR-20260811-9DD89C' → DSAR 4199. [2026-08-11 13:06:28] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 13:06:29] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 13:06:30] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16416 response_type=not_responsible. [2026-08-11 13:06:30] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16416 → triage_queue=dsar_needs_research (response_type=not_responsible, dsar_id=4199). [2026-08-11 13:06:51] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 13:06:57] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 13:07:01] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 13:07:12] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16419 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 13:07:12] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 13:07:13] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16419 — dsar_ref='', inst_ref=''. [2026-08-11 13:07:14] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 13:07:35] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 16419 (client 1365, 1 handler(s)). [2026-08-11 13:07:36] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16419 — AI matcher dsar_id=, confidence=low. [2026-08-11 13:07:39] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16419 response_type=acknowledgement. [2026-08-11 13:07:39] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16419 → triage_queue=dsar_updates (response_type=acknowledgement, dsar_id=none). [2026-08-11 13:07:43] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 16391 (client 1132, 1 handler(s)). [2026-08-11 13:07:58] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 16361 (client 1159, 1 handler(s)). [2026-08-11 13:08:14] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 13:08:19] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 13:08:22] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 13:08:26] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 13:08:31] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 13:08:34] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA54d8479eb3cf74c47852e155577590a5","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5132"} [2026-08-11 13:08:34] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5132,"CallSid":"CA54d8479eb3cf74c47852e155577590a5","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA54d8479eb3cf74c47852e155577590a5","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5132"}} [2026-08-11 13:08:40] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 13:08:45] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 13:08:48] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 13:08:53] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 13:08:54] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11020 (Screenshot_20260811_081055_Samsung Browser.jpg) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 13:08:54] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11021 (Screenshot_20260811_081106_Samsung Browser.jpg) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 13:08:54] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11022 (Screenshot_20260811_081111_Samsung Browser.jpg) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 13:08:56] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 13:08:56] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16421 classified as 'generic' (high). [2026-08-11 13:09:00] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 13:09:03] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 13:09:13] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 13:09:16] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 13:09:22] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 13:09:26] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 13:09:30] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 13:09:35] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3577 → AssemblyAI 9e603e7c-67dc-4f0e-921c-534b6eb48fdd [2026-08-11 13:09:58] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA9a4d1bc1e089675328959b1339c5bde5","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5133"} [2026-08-11 13:09:58] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5133,"CallSid":"CA9a4d1bc1e089675328959b1339c5bde5","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA9a4d1bc1e089675328959b1339c5bde5","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5133"}} [2026-08-11 13:10:10] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 13:10:14] production.ERROR: SQLSTATE[23000]: Integrity constraint violation: 1062 Duplicate entry '+447777777777' for key 'clients.clients_phone_number_unique' (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: insert into `clients` (`solicitor_id`, `reference`, `title`, `name_first`, `name_middle`, `name_last`, `name_preferred`, `date_of_birth`, `email_address`, `phone_number`, `landline_number`, `tranche_id`, `lead_source_id`, `lead_source_endpoint_id`, `slug`, `updated_at`, `created_at`) values (3, bix0im9cnq2quux, ?, Test, ?, Data, ?, 1993-12-12, info@scottishredresssupport.uk, +447777777777, ?, ?, 3, 7, cd2db984-111d-4f28-bcf8-11248c630061, 2026-08-11 13:10:14, 2026-08-11 13:10:14)) {"userId":2,"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\Database\\UniqueConstraintViolationException(code: 23000): SQLSTATE[23000]: Integrity constraint violation: 1062 Duplicate entry '+447777777777' for key 'clients.clients_phone_number_unique' (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: insert into `clients` (`solicitor_id`, `reference`, `title`, `name_first`, `name_middle`, `name_last`, `name_preferred`, `date_of_birth`, `email_address`, `phone_number`, `landline_number`, `tranche_id`, `lead_source_id`, `lead_source_endpoint_id`, `slug`, `updated_at`, `created_at`) values (3, bix0im9cnq2quux, ?, Test, ?, Data, ?, 1993-12-12, info@scottishredresssupport.uk, +447777777777, ?, ?, 3, 7, cd2db984-111d-4f28-bcf8-11248c630061, 2026-08-11 13:10:14, 2026-08-11 13:10:14)) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php:838) [stacktrace] #0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('insert into `cl...', Array, Object(Closure)) #1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/MySqlConnection.php(42): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('insert into `cl...', Array, Object(Closure)) #2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Processors/MySqlProcessor.php(35): Illuminate\\Database\\MySqlConnection->insert('insert into `cl...', Array, 'id') #3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4170): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Processors\\MySqlProcessor->processInsertGetId(Object(Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder), 'insert into `cl...', Array, 'id') #4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(2237): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->insertGetId(Array, 'id') #5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Model.php(1436): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->__call('insertGetId', Array) #6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Model.php(1401): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Model->insertAndSetId(Object(Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder), Array) #7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Model.php(1240): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Model->performInsert(Object(Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder)) #8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1219): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Model->save() #9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(393): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->{closure:Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder::create():1218}(Object(App\\Models\\Client\\Client)) #10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1218): tap(Object(App\\Models\\Client\\Client), Object(Closure)) #11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/Traits/ForwardsCalls.php(23): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->create(Array) #12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Model.php(2544): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Model->forwardCallTo(Object(Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder), 'create', Array) #13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Model.php(2560): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Model->__call('create', Array) #14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Services/ClientIntakeService.php(16): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Model::__callStatic('create', Array) #15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Concerns/ManagesTransactions.php(35): App\\Services\\ClientIntakeService->{closure:App\\Services\\ClientIntakeService::create():15}(Object(Illuminate\\Database\\MySqlConnection)) #16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/DatabaseManager.php(491): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->transaction(Object(Closure)) #17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/Facades/Facade.php(363): Illuminate\\Database\\DatabaseManager->__call('transaction', Array) #18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Services/ClientIntakeService.php(15): Illuminate\\Support\\Facades\\Facade::__callStatic('transaction', Array) #19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Controllers/Api/LeadIntakeController.php(33): App\\Services\\ClientIntakeService->create(Array) #20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): App\\Http\\Controllers\\Api\\LeadIntakeController->store(Object(App\\Http\\Requests\\Api\\StoreLeadRequest), 'CFIZQOknHoOaim1...', Object(App\\Services\\ClientIntakeService)) #21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(App\\Http\\Controllers\\Api\\LeadIntakeController), 'store') #22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}() #23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route)) #24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(App\\Http\\Controllers\\Api\\LeadIntakeController), 'store') #25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController() #26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run() #27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Auth/Middleware/Authenticate.php(63): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Auth\\Middleware\\Authenticate->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure), 'sanctum') #32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route)) #36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TransformsRequest.php(21): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(31): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TransformsRequest->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TransformsRequest.php(21): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(51): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TransformsRequest->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #72 {main} [previous exception] [object] (PDOException(code: 23000): SQLSTATE[23000]: Integrity constraint violation: 1062 Duplicate entry '+447777777777' for key 'clients.clients_phone_number_unique' at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/MySqlConnection.php:53) [stacktrace] #0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/MySqlConnection.php(53): PDOStatement->execute() #1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(827): Illuminate\\Database\\MySqlConnection->{closure:Illuminate\\Database\\MySqlConnection::insert():42}('insert into `cl...', Array) #2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('insert into `cl...', Array, Object(Closure)) #3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/MySqlConnection.php(42): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('insert into `cl...', Array, Object(Closure)) #4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Processors/MySqlProcessor.php(35): Illuminate\\Database\\MySqlConnection->insert('insert into `cl...', Array, 'id') #5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4170): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Processors\\MySqlProcessor->processInsertGetId(Object(Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder), 'insert into `cl...', Array, 'id') #6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(2237): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->insertGetId(Array, 'id') #7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Model.php(1436): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->__call('insertGetId', Array) #8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Model.php(1401): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Model->insertAndSetId(Object(Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder), Array) #9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Model.php(1240): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Model->performInsert(Object(Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder)) #10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1219): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Model->save() #11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(393): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->{closure:Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder::create():1218}(Object(App\\Models\\Client\\Client)) #12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1218): tap(Object(App\\Models\\Client\\Client), Object(Closure)) #13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/Traits/ForwardsCalls.php(23): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->create(Array) #14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Model.php(2544): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Model->forwardCallTo(Object(Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder), 'create', Array) #15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Model.php(2560): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Model->__call('create', Array) #16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Services/ClientIntakeService.php(16): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Model::__callStatic('create', Array) #17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Concerns/ManagesTransactions.php(35): App\\Services\\ClientIntakeService->{closure:App\\Services\\ClientIntakeService::create():15}(Object(Illuminate\\Database\\MySqlConnection)) #18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/DatabaseManager.php(491): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->transaction(Object(Closure)) #19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/Facades/Facade.php(363): Illuminate\\Database\\DatabaseManager->__call('transaction', Array) #20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Services/ClientIntakeService.php(15): Illuminate\\Support\\Facades\\Facade::__callStatic('transaction', Array) #21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Controllers/Api/LeadIntakeController.php(33): App\\Services\\ClientIntakeService->create(Array) #22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): App\\Http\\Controllers\\Api\\LeadIntakeController->store(Object(App\\Http\\Requests\\Api\\StoreLeadRequest), 'CFIZQOknHoOaim1...', Object(App\\Services\\ClientIntakeService)) #23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(App\\Http\\Controllers\\Api\\LeadIntakeController), 'store') #24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}() #25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route)) #26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(App\\Http\\Controllers\\Api\\LeadIntakeController), 'store') #27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController() #28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run() #29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Auth/Middleware/Authenticate.php(63): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Auth\\Middleware\\Authenticate->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure), 'sanctum') #34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route)) #38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TransformsRequest.php(21): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(31): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TransformsRequest->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TransformsRequest.php(21): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(51): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TransformsRequest->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #74 {main} "} [2026-08-11 13:10:18] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441615700550","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CAbd9de5a97aef39da4d0bfa21ee507e38","To":"+441615700550","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0FiZDlkZTVhOTdhZWYzOWRhNGQwYmZhMjFlZTUwN2UzOCIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3ODc0MzU5NzYyIiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE1NzAwNTUwIiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NjQ1MDIxNyJ9.ZH7eoGg9rqx1NZLKTxiLx_a5lysGgEWoO6wPr-ToCsLaUs9FzZm7BKz5VDPP9SEXbITH8QR3gQl1E6NaNGe-7g%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447874359762","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+447874359762","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} [2026-08-11 13:10:24] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} [2026-08-11 13:10:35] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3577 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 13:10:35] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3577 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 13:10:36] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3577. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 13:10:37] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} [2026-08-11 13:10:37] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3577 [2026-08-11 13:10:42] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 16421 (client 1082, 1 handler(s)). [2026-08-11 13:11:06] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 13:11:10] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 13:11:18] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3578 → AssemblyAI f2d7a42c-98c7-4c86-a3fe-b95869513d9e [2026-08-11 13:11:55] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 13:12:08] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 13:12:18] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3578 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 13:12:18] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3578 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 13:12:19] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3578. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 13:12:20] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3578 [2026-08-11 13:12:21] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 13:12:24] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CAbd9de5a97aef39da4d0bfa21ee507e38","DialCallSid":"CAe112186c920757808cd8367b01eda392","DialCallStatus":"completed","DialCallDuration":"122"} [2026-08-11 13:12:24] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 13:12:25] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 13:12:30] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 13:12:33] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3579 → AssemblyAI b356d552-cae4-495a-9ce2-03312e494fc5 [2026-08-11 13:12:36] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 13:12:36] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 13:12:37] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 13:12:38] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA4e28d615ac77c925d14848cd0fb69df2","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5135"} [2026-08-11 13:12:38] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5135,"CallSid":"CA4e28d615ac77c925d14848cd0fb69df2","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA4e28d615ac77c925d14848cd0fb69df2","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5135"}} [2026-08-11 13:12:38] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 13:12:38] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 13:12:39] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 13:12:53] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 13:12:54] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 13:13:25] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3580 → AssemblyAI 460ec874-7272-435e-95c4-7d6294f7507a [2026-08-11 13:13:30] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} [2026-08-11 13:13:34] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3579 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 13:13:34] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3579 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 13:13:35] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3579. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 13:13:35] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=evidence) for recording 3579. [2026-08-11 13:13:41] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} [2026-08-11 13:13:46] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} [2026-08-11 13:13:57] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA3437648bac991fe366d51c92f8efddd5","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5136"} [2026-08-11 13:13:57] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5136,"CallSid":"CA3437648bac991fe366d51c92f8efddd5","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA3437648bac991fe366d51c92f8efddd5","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5136"}} [2026-08-11 13:13:58] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} [2026-08-11 13:14:07] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} [2026-08-11 13:14:20] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} [2026-08-11 13:14:26] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3580 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 13:14:26] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3580 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 13:14:26] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3580. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 13:14:27] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3580 [2026-08-11 13:14:30] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} [2026-08-11 13:14:33] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} [2026-08-11 13:14:43] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} [2026-08-11 13:14:46] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} [2026-08-11 13:15:11] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAacc288f9b96c605105cf4d7095ef1a69","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5137"} [2026-08-11 13:15:11] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5137,"CallSid":"CAacc288f9b96c605105cf4d7095ef1a69","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAacc288f9b96c605105cf4d7095ef1a69","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5137"}} [2026-08-11 13:15:15] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3581 → AssemblyAI 623661ee-0aaf-4da7-899f-2d20998c9a72 [2026-08-11 13:15:27] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} [2026-08-11 13:15:42] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} [2026-08-11 13:15:49] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} [2026-08-11 13:16:03] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} [2026-08-11 13:16:16] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3581 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 13:16:16] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3581 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 13:16:16] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3581. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 13:16:18] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3581 [2026-08-11 13:16:36] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} [2026-08-11 13:16:41] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 13:16:43] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 13:17:26] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} [2026-08-11 13:17:31] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} [2026-08-11 13:17:34] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 13:17:48] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} [2026-08-11 13:17:51] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA1da9bc7e8771231bd0cc6638c7950486","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5138"} [2026-08-11 13:17:51] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5138,"CallSid":"CA1da9bc7e8771231bd0cc6638c7950486","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA1da9bc7e8771231bd0cc6638c7950486","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5138"}} [2026-08-11 13:18:12] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 13:18:49] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 13:18:53] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 13:18:54] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 13:19:58] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 13:19:59] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} [2026-08-11 13:20:04] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} [2026-08-11 13:20:07] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 13:20:24] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} [2026-08-11 13:20:45] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} [2026-08-11 13:21:57] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 13:22:02] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 13:22:06] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 13:22:10] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 13:22:11] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} [2026-08-11 13:22:13] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 13:22:27] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 13:22:31] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 13:22:39] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 13:25:02] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11029 (image001.png) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 13:25:02] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: extracted text from attachment 11030 (SAR Solicitor Aknowledgement letter.docx). [2026-08-11 13:25:04] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16433 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 13:25:04] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16433 matched via regex reference 'DSAR-20260810-7600D4' → DSAR 4184. [2026-08-11 13:25:06] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16433 response_type=acknowledgement. [2026-08-11 13:25:06] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16433 → triage_queue=dsar_updates (response_type=acknowledgement, dsar_id=4184). [2026-08-11 13:25:06] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16433 auto-set DSAR 4184 status → acknowledged (response_type=acknowledgement). [2026-08-11 13:26:25] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 13:26:51] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 13:27:02] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 13:28:11] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 13:28:37] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 13:28:46] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 13:29:55] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11031 (image001.png) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 13:29:55] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: extracted text from attachment 11032 (SAR Solicitor Aknowledgement letter.docx). [2026-08-11 13:29:57] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16434 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 13:29:57] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16434 matched via regex reference 'DSAR-20260811-AA6082' → DSAR 4193. [2026-08-11 13:30:00] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16434 response_type=acknowledgement. [2026-08-11 13:30:00] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16434 → triage_queue=dsar_updates (response_type=acknowledgement, dsar_id=4193). [2026-08-11 13:30:00] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16434 auto-set DSAR 4193 status → acknowledged (response_type=acknowledgement). [2026-08-11 13:30:07] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA5b819a46a7d50b9d1091c1dd62963da4","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5139"} [2026-08-11 13:30:07] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5139,"CallSid":"CA5b819a46a7d50b9d1091c1dd62963da4","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA5b819a46a7d50b9d1091c1dd62963da4","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5139"}} [2026-08-11 13:30:52] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 13:31:44] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_2"} [2026-08-11 13:31:52] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11033 (thumbnail_image002.jpg) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 13:31:55] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16435 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 13:31:57] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16435 — dsar_ref='', inst_ref='NAC7/16279'. [2026-08-11 13:32:22] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16435 — AI matcher dsar_id=4185, confidence=high. [2026-08-11 13:32:22] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16435 linked to DSAR 4185. [2026-08-11 13:32:22] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: saved receiver_reference 'NAC7/16279' for DSAR 4185. [2026-08-11 13:32:25] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16435 response_type=wrong_recipient. [2026-08-11 13:32:25] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16435 → triage_queue=dsar_needs_research (response_type=wrong_recipient, dsar_id=4185). [2026-08-11 13:35:48] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAe4afb956752b7ce55628f49714f52b61","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5140"} [2026-08-11 13:35:48] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5140,"CallSid":"CAe4afb956752b7ce55628f49714f52b61","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAe4afb956752b7ce55628f49714f52b61","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5140"}} [2026-08-11 13:36:58] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3582 → AssemblyAI b8e0d8fa-40f3-430c-a564-7cede1e0fb35 [2026-08-11 13:37:25] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3583 → AssemblyAI 9d807d8b-b2f3-4aeb-b1da-e7dc702ced4a [2026-08-11 13:37:58] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3582 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 13:37:58] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3582 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 13:37:59] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3582. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 13:38:00] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3582 [2026-08-11 13:38:04] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAb75d3020ce8b606e8096a89a4cf8d52f","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5141"} [2026-08-11 13:38:04] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5141,"CallSid":"CAb75d3020ce8b606e8096a89a4cf8d52f","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAb75d3020ce8b606e8096a89a4cf8d52f","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5141"}} [2026-08-11 13:38:18] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11034 (image001.png) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 13:38:20] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16438 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 13:38:20] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16438 matched via regex reference 'DSAR-20260811-B5DC12' → DSAR 4185. [2026-08-11 13:38:23] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16438 response_type=acknowledgement. [2026-08-11 13:38:23] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16438 → triage_queue=dsar_updates (response_type=acknowledgement, dsar_id=4185). [2026-08-11 13:38:23] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16438 auto-set DSAR 4185 status → acknowledged (response_type=acknowledgement). [2026-08-11 13:38:25] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3583 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 13:38:25] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3583 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 13:38:26] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3583. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 13:38:26] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=institution) for recording 3583. [2026-08-11 13:38:54] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3584 → AssemblyAI 364e3287-238e-4ecf-8de6-0c296c2b8e24 [2026-08-11 13:39:22] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 13:39:33] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA7ffdc0196ae2803ddd0dfac28fb8a748","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5142"} [2026-08-11 13:39:33] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5142,"CallSid":"CA7ffdc0196ae2803ddd0dfac28fb8a748","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA7ffdc0196ae2803ddd0dfac28fb8a748","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5142"}} [2026-08-11 13:39:55] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3584 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 13:39:55] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3584 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 13:39:56] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3584. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 13:39:58] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3584 [2026-08-11 13:40:40] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3585 → AssemblyAI 613622dc-33c6-4df5-b136-cfd141b62688 [2026-08-11 13:41:19] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAe1be66610adddae95fa3b8ab88286dfa","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5143"} [2026-08-11 13:41:19] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5143,"CallSid":"CAe1be66610adddae95fa3b8ab88286dfa","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAe1be66610adddae95fa3b8ab88286dfa","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5143"}} [2026-08-11 13:41:41] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3585 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 13:41:41] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3585 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 13:41:41] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3585. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 13:41:43] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3585 [2026-08-11 13:42:11] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 13:42:23] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3586 → AssemblyAI 5e631096-3500-4972-8c1c-62b8a80895c8 [2026-08-11 13:42:40] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 13:43:23] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3586 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 13:43:23] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3586 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 13:43:24] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3586. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 13:43:25] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3586 [2026-08-11 13:45:52] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 13:45:56] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 13:46:19] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 13:46:24] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 13:46:25] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} [2026-08-11 13:46:27] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 13:46:34] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 13:46:48] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 13:46:56] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 13:48:18] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16452 classified as 'generic' (high). [2026-08-11 13:49:36] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAac2d3e7e0064bf2954f95ecd2445deec","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5144"} [2026-08-11 13:49:36] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5144,"CallSid":"CAac2d3e7e0064bf2954f95ecd2445deec","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAac2d3e7e0064bf2954f95ecd2445deec","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5144"}} [2026-08-11 13:50:33] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAd4b095ae20f102c35ed368592867496d","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5145"} [2026-08-11 13:50:33] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5145,"CallSid":"CAd4b095ae20f102c35ed368592867496d","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAd4b095ae20f102c35ed368592867496d","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5145"}} [2026-08-11 13:51:33] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11035 (image.png) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 13:51:33] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11036 (image.png) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 13:51:33] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11037 (Outlook-mxoqhjmg.png) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 13:51:33] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11038 (Outlook-rnymb0fc.png) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 13:51:33] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11039 (image.png) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 13:51:33] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11040 (image.png) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 13:51:35] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16461 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 13:51:35] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16461 matched via regex reference 'DSAR-20260811-4B3AED' → DSAR 4186. [2026-08-11 13:51:38] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16461 response_type=info_requested. [2026-08-11 13:51:38] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16461 → triage_queue=dsar_needs_research (response_type=info_requested, dsar_id=4186). [2026-08-11 13:51:38] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16461 auto-set DSAR 4186 status → further info required (response_type=info_requested). [2026-08-11 13:51:49] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3587 → AssemblyAI 2ea277b7-ca79-45a0-b0cc-e9b2eb2ed3a0 [2026-08-11 13:52:15] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 13:52:20] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 13:52:29] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA6f928b232025d58f32158e16085d2a06","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5146"} [2026-08-11 13:52:29] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5146,"CallSid":"CA6f928b232025d58f32158e16085d2a06","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA6f928b232025d58f32158e16085d2a06","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5146"}} [2026-08-11 13:52:50] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3587 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 13:52:50] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3587 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 13:52:50] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3587. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 13:52:51] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3587 [2026-08-11 13:53:47] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3588 → AssemblyAI 5a9309b8-c841-4ddb-8265-599fa1812565 [2026-08-11 13:54:18] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAd3dab3ed65b63a96062d0d9a8cb654e0","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5147"} [2026-08-11 13:54:18] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5147,"CallSid":"CAd3dab3ed65b63a96062d0d9a8cb654e0","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAd3dab3ed65b63a96062d0d9a8cb654e0","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5147"}} [2026-08-11 13:54:35] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: extracted text from attachment 11041 (26 Scotland's Redress Scheme - Receipt of Application from your Solicitor.docx). [2026-08-11 13:54:35] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: extracted text from attachment 11042 (Verifying your identity - Application received from Solicitor.pdf). [2026-08-11 13:54:35] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: extracted text from attachment 11043 (Summary of Options.pdf). [2026-08-11 13:54:35] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: extracted text from attachment 11044 (Accessing your Records information sheet - Individually Assessed Payment.docx). [2026-08-11 13:54:37] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16466 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 13:54:40] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16466 — dsar_ref='', inst_ref='APP807148'. [2026-08-11 13:54:48] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3588 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 13:54:48] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3588 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 13:54:48] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3588. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 13:54:49] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3588 [2026-08-11 13:54:55] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16466 — AI matcher dsar_id=, confidence=low. [2026-08-11 13:54:55] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16466 — extracted reference 'APP807148' but no DSAR matched. [2026-08-11 13:54:58] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16466 response_type=acknowledgement. [2026-08-11 13:54:58] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16466 → triage_queue=dsar_updates (response_type=acknowledgement, dsar_id=none). [2026-08-11 13:55:33] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3589 → AssemblyAI 444f122c-d09f-4b10-8716-94cd8f7ee36d [2026-08-11 13:55:49] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441618880834","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"JE","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CA8e21501a29fab76f23f0edc9a7de8b3d","To":"+441618880834","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0E4ZTIxNTAxYTI5ZmFiNzZmMjNmMGVkYzlhN2RlOGIzZCIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3MzY4NjY1NzQ0IiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE4ODgwODM0IiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NjQ1Mjk0OCJ9.Cu9D-ZrDfw-_hdzG4Bzhov_xJQkOSlDZ-DV67j8O-QOOH5ZCZJiuBslb00XYa9CrKzUrQ70HJn-heA4Ge_RtQg%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447368665744","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"JE","Caller":"+447368665744","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} [2026-08-11 13:55:54] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CA8e21501a29fab76f23f0edc9a7de8b3d","DialCallSid":"CAb6677ee0dd244eba2298affba278b122","DialCallStatus":"no-answer","DialCallDuration":null} [2026-08-11 13:55:58] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} [2026-08-11 13:56:25] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAb5f63eb5c53cb92f80fce483c629657a","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5149"} [2026-08-11 13:56:25] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5149,"CallSid":"CAb5f63eb5c53cb92f80fce483c629657a","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAb5f63eb5c53cb92f80fce483c629657a","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5149"}} [2026-08-11 13:56:33] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3589 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 13:56:33] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3589 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 13:56:34] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3589. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 13:56:35] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3589 [2026-08-11 13:58:16] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} [2026-08-11 13:58:49] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAd1fb1b93723f5c88bcd36a75d677b890","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5150"} [2026-08-11 13:58:49] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5150,"CallSid":"CAd1fb1b93723f5c88bcd36a75d677b890","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAd1fb1b93723f5c88bcd36a75d677b890","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5150"}} [2026-08-11 13:59:29] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3590 → AssemblyAI 18875886-f269-42d0-a988-4f857d724ead [2026-08-11 13:59:48] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA32d015c582123448182a0abe49fcdb20","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5151"} [2026-08-11 13:59:48] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5151,"CallSid":"CA32d015c582123448182a0abe49fcdb20","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA32d015c582123448182a0abe49fcdb20","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5151"}} [2026-08-11 14:00:29] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3590 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 14:00:29] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3590 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 14:00:30] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3590. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 14:00:30] production.WARNING: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: no completed transcript for recording 3590. [2026-08-11 14:00:57] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 14:01:04] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 14:01:09] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_28","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_28","CallSid":"CAa5227ad0030d2b5c0a57ec3306ba9282","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5152"} [2026-08-11 14:01:09] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5152,"CallSid":"CAa5227ad0030d2b5c0a57ec3306ba9282","From":"client:agent_production_28","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_28","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_28","CallSid":"CAa5227ad0030d2b5c0a57ec3306ba9282","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5152"}} [2026-08-11 14:01:09] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA241d18ab5035441997b98c4fa1954bd9","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5153"} [2026-08-11 14:01:09] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5153,"CallSid":"CA241d18ab5035441997b98c4fa1954bd9","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA241d18ab5035441997b98c4fa1954bd9","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5153"}} [2026-08-11 14:02:06] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3591 → AssemblyAI cb86788e-f782-448e-bfb2-8b1deb990e81 [2026-08-11 14:02:18] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} [2026-08-11 14:02:45] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA2c90726d3eef0a39bccd69e91c3c8fe3","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5154"} [2026-08-11 14:02:45] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5154,"CallSid":"CA2c90726d3eef0a39bccd69e91c3c8fe3","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA2c90726d3eef0a39bccd69e91c3c8fe3","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5154"}} [2026-08-11 14:02:47] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CAc39daa26542b370dbbc537af601de19d","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5155"} [2026-08-11 14:02:47] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5155,"CallSid":"CAc39daa26542b370dbbc537af601de19d","From":"client:agent_production_39","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CAc39daa26542b370dbbc537af601de19d","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5155"}} [2026-08-11 14:03:07] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3591 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 14:03:07] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3591 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 14:03:07] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3591. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 14:03:09] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3591 [2026-08-11 14:03:35] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 14:03:41] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA442c8485fd8c505875630a10b9ff3276","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5156"} [2026-08-11 14:03:41] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5156,"CallSid":"CA442c8485fd8c505875630a10b9ff3276","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA442c8485fd8c505875630a10b9ff3276","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5156"}} [2026-08-11 14:03:58] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3592 → AssemblyAI e6e2b51c-f429-4aee-b157-ee986845e93f [2026-08-11 14:04:34] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3593 → AssemblyAI 9823150a-1009-47ac-b465-e9ed6ef78b5b [2026-08-11 14:04:46] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 14:04:58] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3592 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 14:04:58] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3592 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 14:04:59] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3592. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 14:04:59] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=institution) for recording 3592. [2026-08-11 14:05:08] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAb4f45a02ebf06bc850a212a0e8392e7e","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5157"} [2026-08-11 14:05:08] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5157,"CallSid":"CAb4f45a02ebf06bc850a212a0e8392e7e","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAb4f45a02ebf06bc850a212a0e8392e7e","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5157"}} [2026-08-11 14:05:35] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3593 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 14:05:35] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3593 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 14:05:35] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3593. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 14:05:36] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3593 [2026-08-11 14:05:52] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} [2026-08-11 14:06:10] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3594 → AssemblyAI 40e03bdc-569c-4fd4-b502-fb3f1aa010d7 [2026-08-11 14:07:11] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3594 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 14:07:11] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3594 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 14:07:11] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3594. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 14:07:12] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3594 [2026-08-11 14:07:24] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA41b3ca192f2fb9a8a49c3d22ea2818b4","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5158"} [2026-08-11 14:07:24] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5158,"CallSid":"CA41b3ca192f2fb9a8a49c3d22ea2818b4","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA41b3ca192f2fb9a8a49c3d22ea2818b4","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5158"}} [2026-08-11 14:08:22] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 14:08:39] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3595 → AssemblyAI c93177ab-432f-43ca-a1d5-3258d4b1e488 [2026-08-11 14:09:34] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAf01733cf685154b6b6926a4872349aa5","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5159"} [2026-08-11 14:09:34] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5159,"CallSid":"CAf01733cf685154b6b6926a4872349aa5","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAf01733cf685154b6b6926a4872349aa5","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5159"}} [2026-08-11 14:09:37] production.WARNING: Twilio webhook signature validation failed. {"url":"https://ha.fintrixor.co.uk/webhook/twilio/status","signature":"Q6qrR3UvCZ3tGSFJtXYyuu80YtU=","params":["Called","ParentCallSid","ToState","CallerCountry","Direction","Timestamp","CallbackSource","SipResponseCode","CallerState","ToZip","SequenceNumber","CallSid","To","CallerZip","ToCountry","CalledZip","ApiVersion","CalledCity","CallStatus","Duration","From","CallDuration","AccountSid","CalledCountry","CallerCity","ToCity","FromCountry","Caller","FromCity","CalledState","ErrorCode","FromZip","ErrorMessage","FromState"]} [2026-08-11 14:09:40] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3595 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 14:09:40] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3595 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 14:09:40] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3595. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 14:09:43] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3595 [2026-08-11 14:10:28] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} [2026-08-11 14:11:22] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAbb5d40e4f7e6cb5076646316c053f52b","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5160"} [2026-08-11 14:11:22] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5160,"CallSid":"CAbb5d40e4f7e6cb5076646316c053f52b","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAbb5d40e4f7e6cb5076646316c053f52b","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5160"}} [2026-08-11 14:12:22] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 14:12:36] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA2b34125ecabb4487a92b3857b40cdbab","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5161"} [2026-08-11 14:12:36] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5161,"CallSid":"CA2b34125ecabb4487a92b3857b40cdbab","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA2b34125ecabb4487a92b3857b40cdbab","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5161"}} [2026-08-11 14:13:43] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3596 → AssemblyAI 555ebe4b-a8d8-4fda-8cd4-1c362d7b27d7 [2026-08-11 14:14:29] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16489 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 14:14:30] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16489 — dsar_ref='', inst_ref='CY74AV6862'. [2026-08-11 14:14:32] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAfb9f44d2587c9551048f922daf17f7bc","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5162"} [2026-08-11 14:14:32] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5162,"CallSid":"CAfb9f44d2587c9551048f922daf17f7bc","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAfb9f44d2587c9551048f922daf17f7bc","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5162"}} [2026-08-11 14:14:44] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16489 — AI matcher dsar_id=, confidence=low. [2026-08-11 14:14:44] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16489 — extracted reference 'CY74AV6862' but no DSAR matched. [2026-08-11 14:14:44] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3596 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 14:14:44] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3596 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 14:14:45] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3596. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 14:14:46] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3596 [2026-08-11 14:14:46] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16489 response_type=portal_response. [2026-08-11 14:14:46] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16489 → triage_queue=portal_response (response_type=portal_response, dsar_id=none). [2026-08-11 14:15:40] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 14:15:45] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 14:15:47] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3597 → AssemblyAI d75bc600-f537-41ff-a657-9d9123bbd266 [2026-08-11 14:15:50] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01KZNPMZ3MAAHAZSW6T8ZQ2JPD"} [2026-08-11 14:15:51] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01KZNPMZ5PW73MEVFNNKG5S7EZ"} [2026-08-11 14:15:52] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01KZNPMZ67JBWRD1ZQKSPMV64H"} [2026-08-11 14:15:52] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01KZNPMZ6SAKV9EZHSJHR7NAH2"} [2026-08-11 14:15:53] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01KZNPMZ980DD9NM024Z2ATTZ9"} [2026-08-11 14:15:54] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01KZNPMZA6SJ2YJAP01RCVAEA9"} [2026-08-11 14:15:55] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 14:16:04] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 14:16:21] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA540502ab61a38242d61d048df1db07c5","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5163"} [2026-08-11 14:16:21] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5163,"CallSid":"CA540502ab61a38242d61d048df1db07c5","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA540502ab61a38242d61d048df1db07c5","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5163"}} [2026-08-11 14:16:26] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 14:16:27] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} [2026-08-11 14:16:48] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3597 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 14:16:48] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3597 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 14:16:48] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3597. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 14:16:49] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=follow_up for recording 3597 [2026-08-11 14:17:25] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 14:17:40] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} [2026-08-11 14:18:20] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3598 → AssemblyAI 43626fa8-a9fc-4459-8b30-e857dc788957 [2026-08-11 14:18:46] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01KZNPMZ3MAAHAZSW6T8ZQ2JPD"} [2026-08-11 14:18:46] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01KZNPMZ5PW73MEVFNNKG5S7EZ"} [2026-08-11 14:18:47] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01KZNPMZ67JBWRD1ZQKSPMV64H"} [2026-08-11 14:18:48] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01KZNPMZ6SAKV9EZHSJHR7NAH2"} [2026-08-11 14:18:48] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01KZNPMZ980DD9NM024Z2ATTZ9"} [2026-08-11 14:18:49] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01KZNPMZA6SJ2YJAP01RCVAEA9"} [2026-08-11 14:18:50] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01KZNPMZ3MAAHAZSW6T8ZQ2JPD"} [2026-08-11 14:18:51] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01KZNPMZ3MAAHAZSW6T8ZQ2JPD"} [2026-08-11 14:18:51] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01KZNPMZ5PW73MEVFNNKG5S7EZ"} [2026-08-11 14:18:52] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01KZNPMZ5PW73MEVFNNKG5S7EZ"} [2026-08-11 14:18:53] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01KZNPMZ67JBWRD1ZQKSPMV64H"} [2026-08-11 14:18:53] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01KZNPMZ67JBWRD1ZQKSPMV64H"} [2026-08-11 14:18:54] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01KZNPMZ6SAKV9EZHSJHR7NAH2"} [2026-08-11 14:18:55] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01KZNPMZ6SAKV9EZHSJHR7NAH2"} [2026-08-11 14:18:56] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01KZNPMZ980DD9NM024Z2ATTZ9"} [2026-08-11 14:18:57] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01KZNPMZ980DD9NM024Z2ATTZ9"} [2026-08-11 14:18:58] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01KZNPMZA6SJ2YJAP01RCVAEA9"} [2026-08-11 14:18:58] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01KZNPMZA6SJ2YJAP01RCVAEA9"} [2026-08-11 14:18:59] production.INFO: Broadcasting [Illuminate\Notifications\Events\BroadcastNotificationCreated] on channels [private-App.Models.User.User.26] with payload: { "type": "App\\Notifications\\InitialDocumentsSignedNotification", "title": "Initial documents e-signed", "message": "Mr Neil Mcmillan e-signed 6 documents", "client_id": 1341, "client_name": "Mr Neil Mcmillan", "documents": [ "LOA", "Client Care Letter", "CFA", "Part 1", "Part 2", "Part 2 Extra" ], "id": "94e4f2cc-1d4b-4748-b116-458ffd14ceb4", "socket": null } [2026-08-11 14:19:21] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3598 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 14:19:21] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3598 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 14:19:21] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3598. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 14:19:23] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=follow_up for recording 3598 [2026-08-11 14:19:57] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 14:23:27] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 14:23:54] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 14:23:58] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 14:24:12] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 14:24:15] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 14:24:24] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 14:24:55] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 14:25:02] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 14:25:37] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16490 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 14:25:38] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16490 — dsar_ref='', inst_ref='AM261269'. [2026-08-11 14:25:55] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16490 — AI matcher dsar_id=, confidence=low. [2026-08-11 14:25:55] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16490 — extracted reference 'AM261269' but no DSAR matched. [2026-08-11 14:25:57] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16490 response_type=portal_response. [2026-08-11 14:25:57] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16490 → triage_queue=portal_response (response_type=portal_response, dsar_id=none). [2026-08-11 14:26:22] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11045 (image001.jpg) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 14:26:22] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11046 (image002.png) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 14:26:22] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11047 (~WRD0001.jpg) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 14:26:22] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11048 (image003.png) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 14:26:24] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16491 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 14:26:24] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16491 matched via regex reference 'DSAR-20260709-A1B578' → DSAR 3846. [2026-08-11 14:26:27] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16491 response_type=delay_notice. [2026-08-11 14:26:27] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16491 → triage_queue=dsar_updates (response_type=delay_notice, dsar_id=3846). [2026-08-11 14:26:27] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16491 auto-set DSAR 3846 status → acknowledged (response_type=delay_notice). [2026-08-11 14:28:37] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 14:30:08] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441615700550","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CA60ade2dbdb934dc5022476319208b0ad","To":"+441615700550","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0E2MGFkZTJkYmRiOTM0ZGM1MDIyNDc2MzE5MjA4YjBhZCIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3NzgzMTM5NzE2IiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE1NzAwNTUwIiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NjQ1NTAwNyJ9.V4KPXvzft_FKBAB_7wmEEl3GoUbFSrxs-Bh98qOcuZw3QHFmCDLyS9Fg8YgSJ2BaPPoxMf-w8aleHHlbVSf--A%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447783139716","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+447783139716","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} [2026-08-11 14:30:34] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CA60ade2dbdb934dc5022476319208b0ad","DialCallSid":"CA10361aa1c5c2676250c128d17bfe515a","DialCallStatus":"no-answer","DialCallDuration":null} [2026-08-11 14:30:43] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 14:30:50] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441615700550","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CA866923f5c02555eb032005909f478a6c","To":"+441615700550","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0E4NjY5MjNmNWMwMjU1NWViMDMyMDA1OTA5ZjQ3OGE2YyIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3NzgzMTM5NzE2IiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE1NzAwNTUwIiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NjQ1NTA0OSJ9.g55XMHvVccDKfJ-H2a0Rqzz1r_oD8ouHZKkfpvelWYNlhOtLfqDXb3wdIzRpmkOORniSXMfncmCXRNVuw0hj7w%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447783139716","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+447783139716","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} [2026-08-11 14:31:16] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CA866923f5c02555eb032005909f478a6c","DialCallSid":"CAcc984c63cb9466da93d40458d4628a76","DialCallStatus":"no-answer","DialCallDuration":null} [2026-08-11 14:31:35] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_2"} [2026-08-11 14:31:56] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 14:34:32] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: extracted text from attachment 11049 (Scotland's Redress Scheme - Receipt of Application from your Solicitor.pdf). [2026-08-11 14:34:32] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: extracted text from attachment 11050 (Verifying your identity - Application received from Solicitor.pdf). [2026-08-11 14:34:32] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: extracted text from attachment 11051 (Scotland's Redress Scheme - Survivor Application - Summary of Options - Download version.pdf). [2026-08-11 14:34:35] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16492 classified as 'generic' (high). [2026-08-11 14:40:23] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 14:40:31] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 14:40:36] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 14:40:39] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 14:40:45] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 14:42:02] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11052 (image001.png) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 14:42:02] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: extracted text from attachment 11053 (LET 20260811 MMA Legal Ltd McKnight S SAR Response.pdf). [2026-08-11 14:42:05] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16493 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 14:42:05] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16493 matched via regex reference 'DSAR-20260630-D22911' → DSAR 3696. [2026-08-11 14:42:07] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16493 response_type=no_record. [2026-08-11 14:42:07] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16493 → triage_queue=dsar_needs_research (response_type=no_record, dsar_id=3696). [2026-08-11 14:42:07] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16493 auto-set DSAR 3696 status → no records (response_type=no_record). [2026-08-11 14:42:27] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16494 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 14:42:28] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16494 — dsar_ref='', inst_ref='100039'. [2026-08-11 14:42:28] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16494 matched DSAR 138 via reference lookup (100039). [2026-08-11 14:42:28] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: saved receiver_reference '100039' for DSAR 138. [2026-08-11 14:42:30] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16494 response_type=info_requested. [2026-08-11 14:42:30] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16494 → triage_queue=dsar_needs_research (response_type=info_requested, dsar_id=138). [2026-08-11 14:43:29] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441618880834","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CA56ea801c0e98a7e312dc5519c9bb032d","To":"+441618880834","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0E1NmVhODAxYzBlOThhN2UzMTJkYzU1MTljOWJiMDMyZCIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3ODU3NzE3MzUxIiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE4ODgwODM0IiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NjQ1NTgwOCJ9.c7ULr4gKXeAQHzjmKMoq5tpKpzz_BoLQJJZ3AorA7P2IFe4nsSj9eIkzlv7YReZAbXK2vdFiglTb-siP_JUWRw%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447857717351","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+447857717351","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} [2026-08-11 14:43:34] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 16466 (client 1206, 1 handler(s)). [2026-08-11 14:43:44] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 14:45:33] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CA56ea801c0e98a7e312dc5519c9bb032d","DialCallSid":"CAabd0db489e51bd23fd6753bf65ddf597","DialCallStatus":"completed","DialCallDuration":"113"} [2026-08-11 14:45:42] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3599 → AssemblyAI 942069c1-1f2e-41ef-bb2f-632ab3c8fc14 [2026-08-11 14:45:43] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 14:45:54] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 14:46:43] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3599 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 14:46:43] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3599 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 14:46:43] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3599. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 14:46:44] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=follow_up for recording 3599 [2026-08-11 14:46:47] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 14:47:18] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 14:47:22] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 14:47:25] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 14:47:34] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 14:47:37] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 14:47:47] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 14:50:13] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 16492 (client 1049, 1 handler(s)). [2026-08-11 14:50:40] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 14:50:44] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 14:50:46] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 14:50:49] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 14:51:01] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 14:51:02] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 14:51:05] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 14:51:31] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 14:51:36] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 14:51:48] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 14:51:49] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16497 classified as 'generic' (high). [2026-08-11 14:51:58] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 14:52:05] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11058 (image001.png) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 14:52:05] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: extracted text from attachment 11059 (LET 20260811 MMA Legal Anderson K SAR Response.pdf). [2026-08-11 14:52:09] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 14:52:09] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16498 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 14:52:09] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16498 matched via regex reference 'DSAR-20260721-97EDEC' → DSAR 4004. [2026-08-11 14:52:11] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16498 response_type=no_record. [2026-08-11 14:52:11] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16498 → triage_queue=dsar_needs_research (response_type=no_record, dsar_id=4004). [2026-08-11 14:52:11] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16498 auto-set DSAR 4004 status → no records (response_type=no_record). [2026-08-11 14:52:12] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 14:52:29] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA41a334ca36ef1f0bcfe16b4e2b789b60","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5167"} [2026-08-11 14:52:29] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5167,"CallSid":"CA41a334ca36ef1f0bcfe16b4e2b789b60","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA41a334ca36ef1f0bcfe16b4e2b789b60","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5167"}} [2026-08-11 14:52:32] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 14:52:43] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 14:54:08] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} [2026-08-11 14:54:21] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11060 (image001.png) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 14:54:21] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11061 (image002.png) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 14:54:21] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11062 (image003.jpg) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 14:54:23] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16500 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 14:54:25] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16500 — dsar_ref='', inst_ref='DP8572895'. [2026-08-11 14:54:45] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16500 — AI matcher dsar_id=, confidence=low. [2026-08-11 14:54:45] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16500 — extracted reference 'DP8572895' but no DSAR matched. [2026-08-11 14:54:47] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16500 response_type=delay_notice. [2026-08-11 14:54:47] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16500 → triage_queue=dsar_updates (response_type=delay_notice, dsar_id=none). [2026-08-11 14:54:52] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 14:54:58] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 14:55:08] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 14:55:08] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} [2026-08-11 14:55:14] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16501 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 14:55:14] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 14:55:15] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16501 — dsar_ref='', inst_ref='2348-9643-5178-9674'. [2026-08-11 14:55:23] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 14:55:28] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16501 — AI matcher dsar_id=, confidence=low. [2026-08-11 14:55:28] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16501 — extracted reference '2348-9643-5178-9674' but no DSAR matched. [2026-08-11 14:55:30] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16501 response_type=acknowledgement. [2026-08-11 14:55:30] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16501 → triage_queue=dsar_updates (response_type=acknowledgement, dsar_id=none). [2026-08-11 14:55:31] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 14:55:32] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 14:55:34] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 14:55:43] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 14:57:18] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 14:57:18] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} [2026-08-11 14:57:27] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16503 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 14:57:28] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16503 matched via regex reference 'DSAR-20260805-4FE4EF' → DSAR 4170. [2026-08-11 14:57:30] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16503 response_type=wrong_recipient. [2026-08-11 14:57:30] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16503 → triage_queue=dsar_needs_research (response_type=wrong_recipient, dsar_id=4170). [2026-08-11 14:57:52] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 14:58:00] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 14:58:17] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 14:58:22] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} [2026-08-11 14:58:22] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 14:58:41] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} [2026-08-11 15:00:11] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA8c2f56411a95325dfe800f1092130875","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5168"} [2026-08-11 15:00:11] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5168,"CallSid":"CA8c2f56411a95325dfe800f1092130875","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA8c2f56411a95325dfe800f1092130875","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5168"}} [2026-08-11 15:00:29] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA0c20eaee82f947f11cceba3863fc50fd","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5169"} [2026-08-11 15:00:29] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5169,"CallSid":"CA0c20eaee82f947f11cceba3863fc50fd","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA0c20eaee82f947f11cceba3863fc50fd","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5169"}} [2026-08-11 15:00:48] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 15:02:45] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 15:03:31] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAa53f21c47c94610c894188e4553eca80","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5170"} [2026-08-11 15:03:32] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5170,"CallSid":"CAa53f21c47c94610c894188e4553eca80","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAa53f21c47c94610c894188e4553eca80","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5170"}} [2026-08-11 15:04:31] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3600 → AssemblyAI dd5f8658-6743-4cfb-93e5-7a296ddc3f3e [2026-08-11 15:04:37] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 15:04:40] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3601 → AssemblyAI ae1f0a04-f10e-43bf-a33a-68705d143e11 [2026-08-11 15:05:32] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3600 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 15:05:32] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3600 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 15:05:32] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3600. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 15:05:32] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=institution) for recording 3600. [2026-08-11 15:05:41] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3601 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 15:05:41] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3601 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 15:05:41] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3601. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 15:05:42] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=follow_up for recording 3601 [2026-08-11 15:05:43] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} [2026-08-11 15:05:55] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 15:06:05] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-63ebdc30-7808-4b49-9aed-ce0c088d406a.pdf [2026-08-11 15:06:07] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 15:06:26] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 15:06:38] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA74c8db20690e8007f0942fd28626fc4e","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5171"} [2026-08-11 15:06:38] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5171,"CallSid":"CA74c8db20690e8007f0942fd28626fc4e","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA74c8db20690e8007f0942fd28626fc4e","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5171"}} [2026-08-11 15:06:48] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CA17bca82fefc84da955c9209503e54566","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5172"} [2026-08-11 15:06:48] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5172,"CallSid":"CA17bca82fefc84da955c9209503e54566","From":"client:agent_production_39","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CA17bca82fefc84da955c9209503e54566","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5172"}} [2026-08-11 15:06:49] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441615700550","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"JE","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CA58bd8130a1532f7100870723dd1cdb34","To":"+441615700550","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0E1OGJkODEzMGExNTMyZjcxMDA4NzA3MjNkZDFjZGIzNCIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3MzU5NDk1NTc1IiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE1NzAwNTUwIiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NjQ1NzIwOCJ9.C_62Z6domWlTRZ2BGJHGwNGtClMMZdr_I9pblPj6JyCyvqFNxvSEjuiB1QBNYu0_R2LY69y6l8kPN3jE2Z57aA%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447359495575","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"JE","Caller":"+447359495575","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} [2026-08-11 15:06:49] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 15:08:04] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3602 → AssemblyAI 4f59b206-3cac-4414-93de-cab469986cb2 [2026-08-11 15:08:13] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 15:08:37] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11066 (image.png) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 15:08:38] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11067 (SAR-R-Mccourt-11-Aug-2026-13-14-06.pdf) is password protected. [2026-08-11 15:08:40] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16509 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 15:08:40] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16509 matched via regex reference 'DSAR-20260811-68511D' → DSAR 4197. [2026-08-11 15:08:42] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16509 response_type=data_provided. [2026-08-11 15:08:42] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16509 → triage_queue=dsar_evidence (response_type=data_provided, dsar_id=4197). [2026-08-11 15:08:42] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16509 auto-set DSAR 4197 status → completed (response_type=data_provided). [2026-08-11 15:08:42] production.INFO: ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob: attachment 11066 — skipped as small image (14325 bytes), likely signature/logo. [2026-08-11 15:08:43] production.WARNING: ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob: per-page parse failed for attachment 11067: Secured pdf file are currently not supported. [2026-08-11 15:08:43] production.INFO: ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob: attachment 11067 — pages=0, large=no. [2026-08-11 15:08:43] production.ERROR: ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob: failed for attachment 11067. {"error":"HTTP request returned status code 400: {\"type\":\"error\",\"error\":{\"type\":\"invalid_request_error\",\"message\":\"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF (truncated...) "} [2026-08-11 15:08:43] production.ERROR: HTTP request returned status code 400: {"type":"error","error":{"type":"invalid_request_error","message":"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF (truncated...) {"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\RequestException(code: 400): HTTP request returned status code 400: {\"type\":\"error\",\"error\":{\"type\":\"invalid_request_error\",\"message\":\"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF (truncated...) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/Response.php:332) [stacktrace] #0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/Response.php(348): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response->toException() #1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1064): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response->throw(Object(Closure)) #2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(393): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}:1043}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response)) #3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1043): tap(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response), Object(Closure)) #4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1) #5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure)) #6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(885): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('POST', 'https://api.ant...', Array) #7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Gateway/Anthropic/AnthropicGateway.php(68): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->post('messages', Array) #8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Gateway/Concerns/HandlesFailoverErrors.php(24): Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway->{closure:Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway::generateText():68}() #9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Gateway/Anthropic/AnthropicGateway.php(66): Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway->withErrorHandling('anthropic', Object(Closure)) #10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Providers/Concerns/GeneratesText.php(63): Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway->generateText(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider), 'claude-sonnet-4...', 'You are Synapse...', Array, Array, Array, Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\TextGenerationOptions), 60) #11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider->{closure:Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\Concerns\\GeneratesText::prompt():47}(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Prompts\\AgentPrompt)) #12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Prompts\\AgentPrompt)) #13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Providers/Concerns/GeneratesText.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Promptable.php(60): Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider->prompt(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Prompts\\AgentPrompt)) #15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Promptable.php(197): App\\Synapse\\Agents\\VerifyDsarDocumentAgent->{closure:Laravel\\Ai\\Promptable::prompt():60}(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider), 'claude-sonnet-4...') #16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Promptable.php(59): App\\Synapse\\Agents\\VerifyDsarDocumentAgent->withModelFailover(Object(Closure), Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider), 'claude-sonnet-4...') #17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob.php(295): App\\Synapse\\Agents\\VerifyDsarDocumentAgent->prompt('Filename: SAR-R...', Array) #18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob.php(107): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob->extractFromFile('SAR-R-Mccourt-1...', 'application/pdf', Array, Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Files\\StoredDocument), 11067, 1, Object(App\\Models\\Contact\\Hub\\ContactMessageAttachment), NULL, true) #19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob->handle() #20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}() #21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure)) #22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure)) #23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL) #24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array) #25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob)) #26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob)) #27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob), false) #29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob)) #30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob)) #31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob)) #33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array) #34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire() #35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default') #39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle() #40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}() #41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure)) #42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure)) #43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL) #44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array) #45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput)) #53 {main} "} [2026-08-11 15:08:43] production.ERROR: ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob: permanently failed for attachment 11067. {"error":"HTTP request returned status code 400: {\"type\":\"error\",\"error\":{\"type\":\"invalid_request_error\",\"message\":\"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF (truncated...) "} [2026-08-11 15:09:05] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3602 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 15:09:05] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3602 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 15:09:05] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3602. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 15:09:05] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=manual) for recording 3602. [2026-08-11 15:10:20] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} [2026-08-11 15:11:24] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CA58bd8130a1532f7100870723dd1cdb34","DialCallSid":"CA7d9ceba5833487c5702cd22656ce8d73","DialCallStatus":"completed","DialCallDuration":"267"} [2026-08-11 15:11:36] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3603 → AssemblyAI ffdfc19a-dcb9-4b62-bae8-aab791919c80 [2026-08-11 15:12:37] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3603 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 15:12:37] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3603 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 15:12:38] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3603. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 15:12:38] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=evidence) for recording 3603. [2026-08-11 15:13:00] production.ERROR: Unable to retrieve the file_size for file at location: contact-attachments/205/Outlook-0dmwbbmd.png. {"userId":22,"exception":"[object] (League\\Flysystem\\UnableToRetrieveMetadata(code: 0): Unable to retrieve the file_size for file at location: contact-attachments/205/Outlook-0dmwbbmd.png. at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/league/flysystem/src/UnableToRetrieveMetadata.php:49) [stacktrace] #0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/league/flysystem/src/UnableToRetrieveMetadata.php(39): League\\Flysystem\\UnableToRetrieveMetadata::create('contact-attachm...', 'file_size', '', NULL) #1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/league/flysystem-local/LocalFilesystemAdapter.php(449): League\\Flysystem\\UnableToRetrieveMetadata::fileSize('contact-attachm...', '') #2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/league/flysystem/src/Filesystem.php(166): League\\Flysystem\\Local\\LocalFilesystemAdapter->fileSize('contact-attachm...') #3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/FilesystemAdapter.php(644): League\\Flysystem\\Filesystem->fileSize('contact-attachm...') #4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/FilesystemAdapter.php(334): Illuminate\\Filesystem\\FilesystemAdapter->size('contact-attachm...') #5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Controllers/Contact/AttachmentDownloadController.php(31): Illuminate\\Filesystem\\FilesystemAdapter->response('contact-attachm...', 'Outlook-0dmwbbm...', Array) #6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): App\\Http\\Controllers\\Contact\\AttachmentDownloadController->preview(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(App\\Models\\Contact\\Hub\\ContactMessageAttachment)) #7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(App\\Http\\Controllers\\Contact\\AttachmentDownloadController), 'preview') #8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}() #9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route)) #10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(App\\Http\\Controllers\\Contact\\AttachmentDownloadController), 'preview') #11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController() #12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run() #13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Auth/Middleware/Authorize.php(59): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Auth\\Middleware\\Authorize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure), 'inbox.view') #16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/EnsureUserBelongsToSolicitor.php(32): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\EnsureUserBelongsToSolicitor->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Auth/Middleware/Authenticate.php(63): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Auth\\Middleware\\Authenticate->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): 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Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Auth/Middleware/Authenticate.php(63): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Auth\\Middleware\\Authenticate->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): 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Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TransformsRequest.php(21): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(31): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TransformsRequest->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TransformsRequest.php(21): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(51): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TransformsRequest->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure)) #72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request)) #77 {main} "} [2026-08-11 15:13:35] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRJQSR2QWYMBP3YPHRFQ9Z1"} [2026-08-11 15:13:35] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZRJQSR2QWYMBP3YPHRFQ9Z1"} [2026-08-11 15:13:36] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRJQSSVHXG6TASBD0R6EGFM"} [2026-08-11 15:13:36] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZRJQSSVHXG6TASBD0R6EGFM"} [2026-08-11 15:13:37] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRJQST83HM9VYHPYVGM84FD"} [2026-08-11 15:13:37] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZRJQST83HM9VYHPYVGM84FD"} [2026-08-11 15:13:37] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRJQSTWD70G4E01BTN3KP4G"} [2026-08-11 15:13:37] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZRJQSTWD70G4E01BTN3KP4G"} [2026-08-11 15:13:38] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRJQSX22AG7Y95DW783RQCT"} [2026-08-11 15:13:38] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZRJQSX22AG7Y95DW783RQCT"} [2026-08-11 15:13:39] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRJQSY2ZW760EPKRRW7B8D0"} [2026-08-11 15:13:39] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01KZRJQSY2ZW760EPKRRW7B8D0"} [2026-08-11 15:13:41] production.INFO: eSign signing-link email: firing trigger (single request link) {"contract_request_id":1000,"documents":6,"has_signing_url":true} [2026-08-11 15:13:42] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01KZRJQSR2QWYMBP3YPHRFQ9Z1"} [2026-08-11 15:13:43] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01KZRJQSSVHXG6TASBD0R6EGFM"} [2026-08-11 15:13:44] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01KZRJQST83HM9VYHPYVGM84FD"} [2026-08-11 15:13:45] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01KZRJQSTWD70G4E01BTN3KP4G"} [2026-08-11 15:13:45] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRJQSR2QWYMBP3YPHRFQ9Z1"} [2026-08-11 15:13:46] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01KZRJQSX22AG7Y95DW783RQCT"} [2026-08-11 15:13:47] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRJQSSVHXG6TASBD0R6EGFM"} [2026-08-11 15:13:47] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRJQST83HM9VYHPYVGM84FD"} [2026-08-11 15:13:48] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRJQSTWD70G4E01BTN3KP4G"} [2026-08-11 15:13:48] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRJQSX22AG7Y95DW783RQCT"} [2026-08-11 15:13:49] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01KZRJQSY2ZW760EPKRRW7B8D0"} [2026-08-11 15:13:50] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01KZRJQSY2ZW760EPKRRW7B8D0"} [2026-08-11 15:14:12] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 15:15:00] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01KZRJQSR2QWYMBP3YPHRFQ9Z1"} [2026-08-11 15:15:00] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01KZRJQSSVHXG6TASBD0R6EGFM"} [2026-08-11 15:15:01] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01KZRJQST83HM9VYHPYVGM84FD"} [2026-08-11 15:15:02] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01KZRJQSTWD70G4E01BTN3KP4G"} [2026-08-11 15:15:03] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01KZRJQSX22AG7Y95DW783RQCT"} [2026-08-11 15:15:03] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01KZRJQSY2ZW760EPKRRW7B8D0"} [2026-08-11 15:15:23] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3604 → AssemblyAI 4fabce97-f240-4b33-8a2b-cecbdebdd8b6 [2026-08-11 15:15:39] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 15:15:59] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA597e397d028a17ff3de26658a4449a8f","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5174"} [2026-08-11 15:15:59] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5174,"CallSid":"CA597e397d028a17ff3de26658a4449a8f","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA597e397d028a17ff3de26658a4449a8f","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5174"}} [2026-08-11 15:16:14] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 15:16:17] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 15:16:26] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3604 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 15:16:26] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3604 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 15:16:26] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3604. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 15:16:29] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=initial for recording 3604 [2026-08-11 15:16:33] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} [2026-08-11 15:16:33] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 15:16:37] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01KZRJQSR2QWYMBP3YPHRFQ9Z1"} [2026-08-11 15:16:38] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01KZRJQSSVHXG6TASBD0R6EGFM"} [2026-08-11 15:16:39] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01KZRJQST83HM9VYHPYVGM84FD"} [2026-08-11 15:16:39] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01KZRJQSTWD70G4E01BTN3KP4G"} [2026-08-11 15:16:40] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01KZRJQSX22AG7Y95DW783RQCT"} [2026-08-11 15:16:41] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01KZRJQSY2ZW760EPKRRW7B8D0"} [2026-08-11 15:16:41] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01KZRJQSR2QWYMBP3YPHRFQ9Z1"} [2026-08-11 15:16:42] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01KZRJQSR2QWYMBP3YPHRFQ9Z1"} [2026-08-11 15:16:43] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01KZRJQSSVHXG6TASBD0R6EGFM"} [2026-08-11 15:16:44] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01KZRJQSSVHXG6TASBD0R6EGFM"} [2026-08-11 15:16:44] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01KZRJQST83HM9VYHPYVGM84FD"} [2026-08-11 15:16:45] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01KZRJQST83HM9VYHPYVGM84FD"} [2026-08-11 15:16:46] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01KZRJQSTWD70G4E01BTN3KP4G"} [2026-08-11 15:16:47] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01KZRJQSTWD70G4E01BTN3KP4G"} [2026-08-11 15:16:47] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01KZRJQSX22AG7Y95DW783RQCT"} [2026-08-11 15:16:48] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01KZRJQSX22AG7Y95DW783RQCT"} [2026-08-11 15:16:49] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01KZRJQSY2ZW760EPKRRW7B8D0"} [2026-08-11 15:16:49] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01KZRJQSY2ZW760EPKRRW7B8D0"} [2026-08-11 15:16:51] production.INFO: Broadcasting [Illuminate\Notifications\Events\BroadcastNotificationCreated] on channels [private-App.Models.User.User.36] with payload: { "type": "App\\Notifications\\InitialDocumentsSignedNotification", "title": "Initial documents e-signed", "message": "Miss Danielle Louise Leavey e-signed 6 documents", "client_id": 1348, "client_name": "Miss Danielle Louise Leavey", "documents": [ "LOA", "Client Care Letter", "CFA", "Part 1", "Part 2", "Part 2 Extra" ], "id": "fde69111-6057-48d9-8a05-ccc98610bfdc", "socket": null } [2026-08-11 15:16:54] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 15:16:57] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 15:17:16] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 15:17:18] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3605 → AssemblyAI 9f49c56f-595a-41b4-b4e2-73422067f5a6 [2026-08-11 15:17:27] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: scorer returned for recording 3604. {"total_score":34,"risk_rating":"high_risk","has_sections":true} [2026-08-11 15:17:31] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} [2026-08-11 15:18:19] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3605 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 15:18:19] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3605 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 15:18:19] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3605. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 15:18:20] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3605 [2026-08-11 15:18:32] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 15:18:35] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 15:18:52] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 15:18:55] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 15:18:57] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3606 → AssemblyAI 89b2d883-fef6-4073-9fa2-a5c8cf83be1c [2026-08-11 15:19:05] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 15:19:08] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 15:19:24] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 15:19:27] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 15:19:35] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 15:19:38] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 15:19:47] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 15:19:50] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 15:19:53] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 15:19:59] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3606 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 15:19:59] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3606 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 15:19:59] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 15:19:59] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3606. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 15:19:59] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: recording 3606 marked 'initial' by agent disposition; skipping classifier. [2026-08-11 15:20:02] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 15:20:04] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 15:20:08] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 15:20:09] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 15:20:17] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 15:20:21] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 15:20:27] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 15:20:29] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 15:20:32] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16518 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 15:20:33] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16518 — dsar_ref='', inst_ref=''. [2026-08-11 15:20:37] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 15:20:43] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 15:20:47] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 15:20:50] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 15:20:52] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16518 — AI matcher dsar_id=, confidence=low. [2026-08-11 15:20:54] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16518 response_type=acknowledgement. [2026-08-11 15:20:54] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16518 → triage_queue=dsar_updates (response_type=acknowledgement, dsar_id=none). [2026-08-11 15:20:54] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 16497 (client 1341, 1 handler(s)). [2026-08-11 15:20:55] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 15:20:58] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: scorer returned for recording 3606. {"total_score":79,"risk_rating":"compliance_concern","has_sections":true} [2026-08-11 15:20:59] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 15:21:03] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 16518 (client 1348, 1 handler(s)). [2026-08-11 15:21:04] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 15:21:39] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA1504ad521f48af85176b25cdb704ad62","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5175"} [2026-08-11 15:21:39] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5175,"CallSid":"CA1504ad521f48af85176b25cdb704ad62","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA1504ad521f48af85176b25cdb704ad62","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5175"}} [2026-08-11 15:23:29] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA030b6ba4ab69ff2e6fedbd0f25bf6f5c","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5176"} [2026-08-11 15:23:29] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5176,"CallSid":"CA030b6ba4ab69ff2e6fedbd0f25bf6f5c","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA030b6ba4ab69ff2e6fedbd0f25bf6f5c","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5176"}} [2026-08-11 15:24:10] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3607 → AssemblyAI 9194827d-7f75-4847-8e3b-3f9884d6a300 [2026-08-11 15:24:12] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAe683d489e0ed00a079ffa47cae139a6d","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5177"} [2026-08-11 15:24:12] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5177,"CallSid":"CAe683d489e0ed00a079ffa47cae139a6d","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAe683d489e0ed00a079ffa47cae139a6d","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5177"}} [2026-08-11 15:24:29] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA23332b17484d0ac451888e5a1a007290","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5178"} [2026-08-11 15:24:29] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5178,"CallSid":"CA23332b17484d0ac451888e5a1a007290","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA23332b17484d0ac451888e5a1a007290","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5178"}} [2026-08-11 15:24:33] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAc04ef33ee3948f9a0a7e67e2ac8fcf0c","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5179"} [2026-08-11 15:24:33] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5179,"CallSid":"CAc04ef33ee3948f9a0a7e67e2ac8fcf0c","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAc04ef33ee3948f9a0a7e67e2ac8fcf0c","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5179"}} [2026-08-11 15:25:04] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 15:25:10] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441615700550","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CA944ced895eee23653c8ad4f830c3129a","To":"+441615700550","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0E5NDRjZWQ4OTVlZWUyMzY1M2M4YWQ0ZjgzMGMzMTI5YSIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3ODMxMzYxMjQyIiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE1NzAwNTUwIiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NjQ1ODMwOSJ9.dFFjGfYOHIljckNhJtS6iGoyipP2I5yQxVRO-mVw8yKCmf-WcFwhE0rK5HEh8S9w_7HSIQ1meIacVS54THK4hA%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447831361242","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+447831361242","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} [2026-08-11 15:25:10] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3607 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 15:25:10] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3607 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 15:25:11] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3607. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 15:25:12] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3607 [2026-08-11 15:25:24] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3608 → AssemblyAI c19633d9-3125-4298-a54b-443b4e352973 [2026-08-11 15:25:35] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3609 → AssemblyAI 9c9ba3b1-9aee-44f2-88be-b51c7f40b082 [2026-08-11 15:25:42] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAdc3e13e72821450ccf98a3b22c92dc15","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5181"} [2026-08-11 15:25:42] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5181,"CallSid":"CAdc3e13e72821450ccf98a3b22c92dc15","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAdc3e13e72821450ccf98a3b22c92dc15","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5181"}} [2026-08-11 15:26:23] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_28","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_28","CallSid":"CA5c47fe1c874f3b25f121ae09784a5c26","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5182"} [2026-08-11 15:26:23] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5182,"CallSid":"CA5c47fe1c874f3b25f121ae09784a5c26","From":"client:agent_production_28","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_28","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_28","CallSid":"CA5c47fe1c874f3b25f121ae09784a5c26","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5182"}} [2026-08-11 15:26:24] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3608 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 15:26:24] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3608 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 15:26:24] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} [2026-08-11 15:26:25] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3608. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 15:26:26] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=follow_up for recording 3608 [2026-08-11 15:26:34] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} [2026-08-11 15:26:35] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3609 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 15:26:35] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3609 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 15:26:36] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3609. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 15:26:37] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3609 [2026-08-11 15:26:50] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} [2026-08-11 15:26:52] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CA944ced895eee23653c8ad4f830c3129a","DialCallSid":"CA38f3f1c2aef1400ed797147e6312f13a","DialCallStatus":"completed","DialCallDuration":"79"} [2026-08-11 15:27:02] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3610 → AssemblyAI 45a9caf8-a8d5-4f97-9e41-950aeb8fa380 [2026-08-11 15:27:08] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} [2026-08-11 15:27:39] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} [2026-08-11 15:27:57] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} [2026-08-11 15:28:02] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3610 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 15:28:02] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3610 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 15:28:03] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3610. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 15:28:03] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=evidence) for recording 3610. [2026-08-11 15:28:27] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 15:28:37] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 15:28:46] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-f113f0f9-45a1-45c2-b5a0-7ba851936d77.pdf [2026-08-11 15:28:48] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 15:29:04] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441618880834","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CA6b8338d14bc2a35e1ab6a625e2b15edb","To":"+441618880834","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0E2YjgzMzhkMTRiYzJhMzVlMWFiNmE2MjVlMmIxNWVkYiIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3OTYzMDg3MjQ4IiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE4ODgwODM0IiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NjQ1ODU0MyJ9.JdYTNFqDDjgN8JR1zQEIbgffyOtfuI6otILYjW7vJP4lMX8QTby5lIlfIBMciWQKZ4IhzyMgdOao2frSCKA5ig%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447963087248","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+447963087248","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} [2026-08-11 15:29:15] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAef69c865f52d6e2b19c42318ad215512","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5184"} [2026-08-11 15:29:15] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5184,"CallSid":"CAef69c865f52d6e2b19c42318ad215512","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAef69c865f52d6e2b19c42318ad215512","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5184"}} [2026-08-11 15:29:20] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 15:29:53] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 15:30:12] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-70a2405e-8e63-471d-b7cd-1c4830233685.pdf [2026-08-11 15:30:14] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 15:30:27] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3611 → AssemblyAI 900113bf-884d-414a-a4ff-c09ed0569218 [2026-08-11 15:30:34] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 15:30:47] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA866342c8b92547f8f9bf6da528d0f0df","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5185"} [2026-08-11 15:30:47] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5185,"CallSid":"CA866342c8b92547f8f9bf6da528d0f0df","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA866342c8b92547f8f9bf6da528d0f0df","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5185"}} [2026-08-11 15:31:26] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_2"} [2026-08-11 15:31:27] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3611 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 15:31:27] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3611 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 15:31:28] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3611. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 15:31:29] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3611 [2026-08-11 15:31:52] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=evidence) for recording 3610. [2026-08-11 15:32:01] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3612 → AssemblyAI 315a67b1-38ff-4009-b11c-436f4e55fabd [2026-08-11 15:32:13] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":null,"resolved_phone_number_id":null,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} [2026-08-11 15:32:18] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} [2026-08-11 15:32:32] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA3ce69b3396cbf0717b381ada33969ffb","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5186"} [2026-08-11 15:32:32] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5186,"CallSid":"CA3ce69b3396cbf0717b381ada33969ffb","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA3ce69b3396cbf0717b381ada33969ffb","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5186"}} [2026-08-11 15:33:02] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3612 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 15:33:02] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3612 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 15:33:02] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3612. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 15:33:04] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3612 [2026-08-11 15:33:24] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3613 → AssemblyAI ffe59572-f38b-4c6d-b311-eacf702517f7 [2026-08-11 15:33:32] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 15:34:25] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3613 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 15:34:25] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3613 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 15:34:25] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3613. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 15:34:25] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 3613 — too short to classify (duration=24s, words=79). [2026-08-11 15:36:34] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA51afe4e6b71498d3b5c4bd2ac73f64b8","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5187"} [2026-08-11 15:36:34] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5187,"CallSid":"CA51afe4e6b71498d3b5c4bd2ac73f64b8","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA51afe4e6b71498d3b5c4bd2ac73f64b8","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5187"}} [2026-08-11 15:36:40] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11075 (image.png) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 15:36:43] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16532 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 15:36:43] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16532 matched via regex reference 'DSAR-20260811-D78877' → DSAR 4202. [2026-08-11 15:36:45] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16532 response_type=info_requested. [2026-08-11 15:36:45] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16532 → triage_queue=dsar_needs_research (response_type=info_requested, dsar_id=4202). [2026-08-11 15:36:45] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16532 auto-set DSAR 4202 status → further info required (response_type=info_requested). [2026-08-11 15:37:11] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3614 → AssemblyAI c5718662-2c7a-4d12-bebf-55accc9c2bff [2026-08-11 15:37:39] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAd97df5091b1a788348ed8cb9a49f511d","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5188"} [2026-08-11 15:37:39] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5188,"CallSid":"CAd97df5091b1a788348ed8cb9a49f511d","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAd97df5091b1a788348ed8cb9a49f511d","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5188"}} [2026-08-11 15:37:47] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CA6b8338d14bc2a35e1ab6a625e2b15edb","DialCallSid":"CA61628eee0cb7bfa21446c2e586d2633b","DialCallStatus":"completed","DialCallDuration":"517"} [2026-08-11 15:37:56] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11076 (image001.png) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 15:37:56] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11077 (image002.jpg) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 15:37:58] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16535 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 15:38:01] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16535 — dsar_ref='', inst_ref='SAR26-27 - 528-Access - Redress'. [2026-08-11 15:38:07] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA2cdd5b93f45fa39b44bb40db4be6447e","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5189"} [2026-08-11 15:38:07] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5189,"CallSid":"CA2cdd5b93f45fa39b44bb40db4be6447e","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA2cdd5b93f45fa39b44bb40db4be6447e","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5189"}} [2026-08-11 15:38:07] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3615 → AssemblyAI 7ca31c8f-7fd9-4f69-a43e-c948e6aba75a [2026-08-11 15:38:11] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3614 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 15:38:11] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3614 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 15:38:12] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3614. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 15:38:12] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 3614 — too short to classify (duration=24s, words=71). [2026-08-11 15:38:18] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16535 — AI matcher dsar_id=, confidence=low. [2026-08-11 15:38:18] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16535 — extracted reference 'SAR26-27 - 528-Access - Redress' but no DSAR matched. [2026-08-11 15:38:20] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16535 response_type=no_record. [2026-08-11 15:38:20] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16535 → triage_queue=dsar_needs_research (response_type=no_record, dsar_id=none). [2026-08-11 15:38:32] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3616 → AssemblyAI 13b04469-acba-4401-b334-743d3f77537e [2026-08-11 15:38:33] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3617 → AssemblyAI 6fe7f4d5-fa20-4a92-9576-54650e6dee4b [2026-08-11 15:38:56] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA2439dc8e7ebd5d0a2e67a4a72be36820","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5190"} [2026-08-11 15:38:56] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5190,"CallSid":"CA2439dc8e7ebd5d0a2e67a4a72be36820","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA2439dc8e7ebd5d0a2e67a4a72be36820","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5190"}} [2026-08-11 15:39:05] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11078 (image001.png) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 15:39:05] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11079 (image002.jpg) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 15:39:08] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3615 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 15:39:08] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3615 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 15:39:08] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16538 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 15:39:08] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3615. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 15:39:10] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16538 — dsar_ref='', inst_ref='SAR26-27 - 528-Access - Redress'. [2026-08-11 15:39:10] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=initial for recording 3615 [2026-08-11 15:39:31] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16538 — AI matcher dsar_id=, confidence=low. [2026-08-11 15:39:31] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16538 — extracted reference 'SAR26-27 - 528-Access - Redress' but no DSAR matched. [2026-08-11 15:39:33] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3616 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 15:39:33] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3616 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 15:39:33] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16538 response_type=no_record. [2026-08-11 15:39:33] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16538 → triage_queue=dsar_needs_research (response_type=no_record, dsar_id=none). [2026-08-11 15:39:33] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3617 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 15:39:33] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3617 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 15:39:34] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3616. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 15:39:34] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 3616 — too short to classify (duration=24s, words=75). [2026-08-11 15:39:34] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3617. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 15:39:34] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 3617 — too short to classify (duration=3s, words=11). [2026-08-11 15:39:41] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3618 → AssemblyAI 807cebf8-399e-4017-ade0-9ddafc274cb0 [2026-08-11 15:39:51] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: scorer returned for recording 3615. {"total_score":72,"risk_rating":"compliance_concern","has_sections":true} [2026-08-11 15:40:03] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA4fab6bb76856373e5fab03236f37acf1","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5191"} [2026-08-11 15:40:03] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5191,"CallSid":"CA4fab6bb76856373e5fab03236f37acf1","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA4fab6bb76856373e5fab03236f37acf1","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5191"}} [2026-08-11 15:40:42] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3618 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 15:40:42] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3618 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 15:40:43] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3618. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 15:40:43] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 3618 — too short to classify (duration=20s, words=52). [2026-08-11 15:41:23] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAf83bd1e247ae39b1dd3d77bb280ed1e5","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5192"} [2026-08-11 15:41:23] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5192,"CallSid":"CAf83bd1e247ae39b1dd3d77bb280ed1e5","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAf83bd1e247ae39b1dd3d77bb280ed1e5","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5192"}} [2026-08-11 15:42:11] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3619 → AssemblyAI ccc7eb4c-2ddd-4231-9ddd-c73744e6d213 [2026-08-11 15:42:41] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA58e04389805586c73072d6d03205730a","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5193"} [2026-08-11 15:42:41] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5193,"CallSid":"CA58e04389805586c73072d6d03205730a","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA58e04389805586c73072d6d03205730a","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5193"}} [2026-08-11 15:43:12] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3619 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 15:43:12] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3619 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 15:43:13] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3619. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 15:43:13] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 3619 — too short to classify (duration=18s, words=48). [2026-08-11 15:43:26] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3620 → AssemblyAI 507e189f-f883-4cb1-b30f-c161899255fe [2026-08-11 15:44:27] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3620 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 15:44:27] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3620 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 15:44:27] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3620. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 15:44:28] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 3620 — too short to classify (duration=20s, words=59). [2026-08-11 15:46:23] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAc8ecca393b1d34434b06b65f635900d3","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5194"} [2026-08-11 15:46:23] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5194,"CallSid":"CAc8ecca393b1d34434b06b65f635900d3","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAc8ecca393b1d34434b06b65f635900d3","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5194"}} [2026-08-11 15:46:38] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 15:47:31] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3621 → AssemblyAI 560bfa54-eda5-4015-8b7d-454d86c37f34 [2026-08-11 15:47:34] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441615700550","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CA3f57e798d9c529c3da55aaf9ba3ec3d5","To":"+441615700550","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0EzZjU3ZTc5OGQ5YzUyOWMzZGE1NWFhZjliYTNlYzNkNSIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3ODUxMzA2NzM0IiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE1NzAwNTUwIiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NjQ1OTY1MyJ9.rraAlgc5I1WND2RWuzC_OF7WFCosk6qTjbyjscp_4l1GpV9oRKrPJS6TNuHaeAmRxswgHDvWB_cnQFvwV_OCnQ%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447851306734","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+447851306734","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} [2026-08-11 15:48:31] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3621 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 15:48:31] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3621 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 15:48:32] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3621. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 15:48:33] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3621 [2026-08-11 15:49:13] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAf3383c5e6c0b0a1a7b212ab0fd864860","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5196"} [2026-08-11 15:49:13] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5196,"CallSid":"CAf3383c5e6c0b0a1a7b212ab0fd864860","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAf3383c5e6c0b0a1a7b212ab0fd864860","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5196"}} [2026-08-11 15:49:16] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 15:50:28] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3622 → AssemblyAI bcaa50aa-5793-47e7-b296-5b9f5b4bb3f2 [2026-08-11 15:50:37] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 15:50:52] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 15:51:29] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3622 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 15:51:29] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3622 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 15:51:29] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3622. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 15:51:32] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3622 [2026-08-11 15:52:16] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 15:52:28] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 15:52:40] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 15:52:45] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 15:52:48] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 15:52:50] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 15:52:55] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 15:55:23] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 15:57:40] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16554 classified as 'generic' (high). [2026-08-11 15:58:41] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA948f5af4692aea9623f884382a81fd01","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5197"} [2026-08-11 15:58:41] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5197,"CallSid":"CA948f5af4692aea9623f884382a81fd01","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA948f5af4692aea9623f884382a81fd01","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5197"}} [2026-08-11 16:00:32] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 16554 (client 1352, 1 handler(s)). [2026-08-11 16:00:38] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 16:01:39] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} [2026-08-11 16:02:22] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3262 → AssemblyAI d4fbf848-6158-45b4-85f8-2cc8525ab95d [2026-08-11 16:03:13] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} [2026-08-11 16:03:23] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3262 → AssemblyAI status=processing (check #0) [2026-08-11 16:04:19] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} [2026-08-11 16:04:27] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3262 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #1) [2026-08-11 16:04:27] production.ERROR: SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: update `synapse_transcripts` set `status` = completed, `raw_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15th of '68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care. What happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, isn't it? [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said, take her away, I can't control her. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me, should I went to school, Matt. But this is no, um, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? [B 07:23]: Yeah. [A 07:25]: My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, kiddin'. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilsayth. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the day that I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? 13. [A 10:09]: Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff public park, was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going like, tell me do handstands. Eh, I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I said I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyll and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978. The placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay, so this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— was the, um, what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, there was different clothes. I had people that already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room She wouldn't have committed it, but I says, no, come on, my gran and that sat the tailor room through it. But so they had to tell the teachers about the women that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them, the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, I just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies? Hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. And so I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front end, right? So they were— we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of night, you know what I mean? [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. then it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this to this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: Oh, I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle, because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I can't tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh, I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was the night and it was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:28]: I went to school there, I know. I think, I don't know, I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: The Balmer, whatever you call it. [B 43:46]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we ask for her hand back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnahcraig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnahcraig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man hurt me, slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got in trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas, I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I'd stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye! It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:22]: Yeah. Was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing— but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was the teacher, was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes, I'm trying to even remember their names, and I can't because we stayed in a house just one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balna Craig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:42]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something. I think, eh, Miss Blonde. Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Turkey, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankering to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that took me go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me, or I would annoy her, and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience— did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much as— but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:33]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away? Could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away and what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, they would hang me. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold onto the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to get a bit fed up. They just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that was just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they was taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because I'm in a stroke unit. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Anchor Junior, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to, um, your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie and all. So I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no right nor that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would I do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians and they were taking me to the church and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel, so the lady was said to take me to chapel She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once they went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, going up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hostel, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 10th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Peratory, for me. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and my auntie says that he would have to go to jail, but it ended up, and they ended up with he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her. Which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm no bother, I'm the one who'll ask him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just— I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she wasn't. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know, if I remember, I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15th of '68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care. What happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, isn't it? [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said, take her away, I can't control her. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me, should I went to school, Matt. But this is no, um, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? [B 07:23]: Yeah. [A 07:25]: My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, kiddin'. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilsayth. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the day that I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? 13. [A 10:09]: Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff public park, was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going like, tell me do handstands. Eh, I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I said I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyll and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978. The placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay, so this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— was the, um, what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, there was different clothes. I had people that already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room She wouldn't have committed it, but I says, no, come on, my gran and that sat the tailor room through it. But so they had to tell the teachers about the women that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them, the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, I just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies? Hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. And so I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front end, right? So they were— we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of night, you know what I mean? [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. then it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this to this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: Oh, I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle, because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I can't tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh, I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was the night and it was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:28]: I went to school there, I know. I think, I don't know, I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: The Balmer, whatever you call it. [B 43:46]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we ask for her hand back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnahcraig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnahcraig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man hurt me, slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got in trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas, I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I'd stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye! It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:22]: Yeah. Was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing— but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was the teacher, was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes, I'm trying to even remember their names, and I can't because we stayed in a house just one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balna Craig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:42]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something. I think, eh, Miss Blonde. Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Turkey, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankering to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that took me go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me, or I would annoy her, and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience— did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much as— but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:33]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away? Could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away and what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, they would hang me. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold onto the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to get a bit fed up. They just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that was just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they was taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because I'm in a stroke unit. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Anchor Junior, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to, um, your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie and all. So I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no right nor that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would I do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians and they were taking me to the church and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel, so the lady was said to take me to chapel She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once they went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, going up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hostel, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 10th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Peratory, for me. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and my auntie says that he would have to go to jail, but it ended up, and they ended up with he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her. Which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm no bother, I'm the one who'll ask him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just— I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she wasn't. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know, if I remember, I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15th of '68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care. What happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, isn't it? [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said, take her away, I can't control her. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me, should I went to school, Matt. But this is no, um, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? [B 07:23]: Yeah. [A 07:25]: My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, kiddin'. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilsayth. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the day that I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? 13. [A 10:09]: Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff public park, was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going like, tell me do handstands. Eh, I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I said I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyll and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978. The placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay, so this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— was the, um, what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, there was different clothes. I had people that already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room She wouldn't have committed it, but I says, no, come on, my gran and that sat the tailor room through it. But so they had to tell the teachers about the women that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them, the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, I just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies? Hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. And so I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front end, right? So they were— we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of night, you know what I mean? [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. then it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this to this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: Oh, I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle, because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I can't tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh, I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was the night and it was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:28]: I went to school there, I know. I think, I don't know, I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: The Balmer, whatever you call it. [B 43:46]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we ask for her hand back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnahcraig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnahcraig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man hurt me, slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got in trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas, I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I'd stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye! It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:22]: Yeah. Was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing— but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was the teacher, was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes, I'm trying to even remember their names, and I can't because we stayed in a house just one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balna Craig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:42]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something. I think, eh, Miss Blonde. Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Turkey, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankering to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that took me go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me, or I would annoy her, and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience— did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much as— but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:33]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away? Could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away and what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, they would hang me. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold onto the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to get a bit fed up. They just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that was just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they was taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because I'm in a stroke unit. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Anchor Junior, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to, um, your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie and all. So I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no right nor that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would I do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians and they were taking me to the church and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel, so the lady was said to take me to chapel She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once they went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, going up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hostel, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 10th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Peratory, for me. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and my auntie says that he would have to go to jail, but it ended up, and they ended up with he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her. Which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm no bother, I'm the one who'll ask him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just— I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she wasn't. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know, if I remember, I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15th of '68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care. What happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, isn't it? [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said, take her away, I can't control her. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me, should I went to school, Matt. But this is no, um, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? [B 07:23]: Yeah. [A 07:25]: My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, kiddin'. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilsayth. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the day that I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? 13. [A 10:09]: Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff public park, was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going like, tell me do handstands. Eh, I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I said I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyll and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978. The placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay, so this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— was the, um, what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, there was different clothes. I had people that already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room She wouldn't have committed it, but I says, no, come on, my gran and that sat the tailor room through it. But so they had to tell the teachers about the women that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them, the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, I just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies? Hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. And so I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front end, right? So they were— we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of night, you know what I mean? [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. then it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this to this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: Oh, I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle, because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I can't tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh, I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was the night and it was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:28]: I went to school there, I know. I think, I don't know, I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: The Balmer, whatever you call it. [B 43:46]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we ask for her hand back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnahcraig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnahcraig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man hurt me, slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got in trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas, I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I'd stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye! It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:22]: Yeah. Was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing— but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was the teacher, was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes, I'm trying to even remember their names, and I can't because we stayed in a house just one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balna Craig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:42]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something. I think, eh, Miss Blonde. Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Turkey, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankering to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that took me go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me, or I would annoy her, and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience— did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much as— but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:33]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away? Could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away and what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, they would hang me. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold onto the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to get a bit fed up. They just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that was just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they was taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because I'm in a stroke unit. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Anchor Junior, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to, um, your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie and all. So I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no right nor that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would I do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians and they were taking me to the church and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel, so the lady was said to take me to chapel She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once they went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, going up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hostel, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 10th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Peratory, for me. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and my auntie says that he would have to go to jail, but it ended up, and they ended up with he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her. Which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm no bother, I'm the one who'll ask him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just— I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she wasn't. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know, if I remember, I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array) #21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire() #22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #25 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/home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL) #31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array) #32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): 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/home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput)) #40 {main} [previous exception] [object] (PDOException(code: 22001): SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php:609) [stacktrace] #0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(609): PDOStatement->execute() #1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(827): 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15th of '68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care. What happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, isn't it? [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said, take her away, I can't control her. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me, should I went to school, Matt. But this is no, um, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? [B 07:23]: Yeah. [A 07:25]: My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, kiddin'. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilsayth. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the day that I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? 13. [A 10:09]: Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff public park, was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going like, tell me do handstands. Eh, I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I said I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyll and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978. The placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay, so this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— was the, um, what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, there was different clothes. I had people that already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room She wouldn't have committed it, but I says, no, come on, my gran and that sat the tailor room through it. But so they had to tell the teachers about the women that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them, the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, I just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies? Hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. And so I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front end, right? So they were— we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of night, you know what I mean? [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. then it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this to this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: Oh, I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle, because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I can't tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh, I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was the night and it was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:28]: I went to school there, I know. I think, I don't know, I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: The Balmer, whatever you call it. [B 43:46]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we ask for her hand back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnahcraig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnahcraig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man hurt me, slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got in trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas, I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I'd stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye! It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:22]: Yeah. Was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing— but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was the teacher, was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes, I'm trying to even remember their names, and I can't because we stayed in a house just one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balna Craig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:42]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something. I think, eh, Miss Blonde. Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Turkey, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankering to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that took me go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me, or I would annoy her, and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience— did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much as— but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:33]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away? Could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away and what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, they would hang me. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold onto the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to get a bit fed up. They just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that was just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they was taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because I'm in a stroke unit. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Anchor Junior, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to, um, your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie and all. So I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no right nor that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would I do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians and they were taking me to the church and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel, so the lady was said to take me to chapel She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once they went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, going up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hostel, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 10th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Peratory, for me. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and my auntie says that he would have to go to jail, but it ended up, and they ended up with he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her. Which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm no bother, I'm the one who'll ask him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just— I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she wasn't. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know, if I remember, I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15th of '68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care. What happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, isn't it? [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said, take her away, I can't control her. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me, should I went to school, Matt. But this is no, um, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? [B 07:23]: Yeah. [A 07:25]: My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, kiddin'. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilsayth. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the day that I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? 13. [A 10:09]: Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff public park, was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going like, tell me do handstands. Eh, I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I said I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyll and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978. The placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay, so this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— was the, um, what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, there was different clothes. I had people that already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room She wouldn't have committed it, but I says, no, come on, my gran and that sat the tailor room through it. But so they had to tell the teachers about the women that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them, the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, I just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies? Hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. And so I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front end, right? So they were— we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of night, you know what I mean? [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. then it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this to this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: Oh, I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle, because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I can't tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh, I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was the night and it was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:28]: I went to school there, I know. I think, I don't know, I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: The Balmer, whatever you call it. [B 43:46]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we ask for her hand back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnahcraig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnahcraig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man hurt me, slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got in trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas, I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I'd stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye! It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:22]: Yeah. Was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing— but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was the teacher, was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes, I'm trying to even remember their names, and I can't because we stayed in a house just one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balna Craig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:42]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something. I think, eh, Miss Blonde. Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Turkey, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankering to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that took me go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me, or I would annoy her, and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience— did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much as— but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:33]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away? Could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away and what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, they would hang me. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold onto the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to get a bit fed up. They just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that was just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they was taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because I'm in a stroke unit. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Anchor Junior, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to, um, your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie and all. So I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no right nor that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would I do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians and they were taking me to the church and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel, so the lady was said to take me to chapel She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once they went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, going up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hostel, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 10th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Peratory, for me. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and my auntie says that he would have to go to jail, but it ended up, and they ended up with he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her. Which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm no bother, I'm the one who'll ask him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just— I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she wasn't. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know, if I remember, I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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Theresa?","start":563474,"end":565939,"confidence":0.8842724600000000378940967493690550327301025390625},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"B","text":"Yeah.","start":570040,"end":570088,"confidence":0.5491445999999999827423380338586866855621337890625},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"B","text":"And were you separated from any of them during your time in care?","start":570137,"end":573581,"confidence":0.821921169999999978728055793908424675464630126953125},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"A","text":"I was away for them all, aye.","start":577213,"end":579446,"confidence":0.61628680000000002348059524592827074229717254638671875},{"sentiment":"NEGATIVE","speaker":"A","text":"I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well.","start":586370,"end":597011,"confidence":0.53238339999999995111323869423358701169490814208984375},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"B","text":"Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were 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Glen.","start":804870,"end":806770,"confidence":0.875427399999999966695440889452584087848663330078125},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"A","text":"Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends.","start":807624,"end":810087,"confidence":0.7803588500000000482970108350855298340320587158203125},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"A","text":"I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair.","start":811526,"end":821355,"confidence":0.90230049999999994980726114590652287006378173828125},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"A","text":"I can't remember the name of that one.","start":822650,"end":824221,"confidence":0.69688969999999994531236779948812909424304962158203125},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"A","text":"I don't know, it was a Scouse bit 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15th of '68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care. What happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, isn't it? [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said, take her away, I can't control her. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me, should I went to school, Matt. But this is no, um, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? [B 07:23]: Yeah. [A 07:25]: My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, kiddin'. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilsayth. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the day that I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? 13. [A 10:09]: Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff public park, was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going like, tell me do handstands. Eh, I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I said I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyll and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978. The placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay, so this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— was the, um, what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, there was different clothes. I had people that already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room She wouldn't have committed it, but I says, no, come on, my gran and that sat the tailor room through it. But so they had to tell the teachers about the women that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them, the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, I just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies? Hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. And so I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front end, right? So they were— we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of night, you know what I mean? [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. then it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this to this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: Oh, I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle, because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I can't tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh, I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was the night and it was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:28]: I went to school there, I know. I think, I don't know, I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: The Balmer, whatever you call it. [B 43:46]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we ask for her hand back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnahcraig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnahcraig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man hurt me, slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got in trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas, I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I'd stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye! It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:22]: Yeah. Was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing— but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was the teacher, was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes, I'm trying to even remember their names, and I can't because we stayed in a house just one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balna Craig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:42]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something. I think, eh, Miss Blonde. Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Turkey, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankering to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that took me go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me, or I would annoy her, and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience— did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much as— but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:33]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away? Could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away and what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, they would hang me. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold onto the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to get a bit fed up. They just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that was just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they was taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because I'm in a stroke unit. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Anchor Junior, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to, um, your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie and all. So I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no right nor that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would I do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians and they were taking me to the church and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel, so the lady was said to take me to chapel She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once they went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, going up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hostel, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 10th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Peratory, for me. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and my auntie says that he would have to go to jail, but it ended up, and they ended up with he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her. Which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm no bother, I'm the one who'll ask him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just— I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she wasn't. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know, if I remember, I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15th of '68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care. What happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, isn't it? [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said, take her away, I can't control her. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me, should I went to school, Matt. But this is no, um, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? [B 07:23]: Yeah. [A 07:25]: My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, kiddin'. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilsayth. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the day that I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? 13. [A 10:09]: Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff public park, was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going like, tell me do handstands. Eh, I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I said I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyll and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978. The placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay, so this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— was the, um, what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, there was different clothes. I had people that already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room She wouldn't have committed it, but I says, no, come on, my gran and that sat the tailor room through it. But so they had to tell the teachers about the women that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them, the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, I just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies? Hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. And so I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front end, right? So they were— we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of night, you know what I mean? [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. then it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this to this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: Oh, I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle, because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I can't tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh, I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was the night and it was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:28]: I went to school there, I know. I think, I don't know, I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: The Balmer, whatever you call it. [B 43:46]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we ask for her hand back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnahcraig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnahcraig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man hurt me, slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got in trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas, I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I'd stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye! It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:22]: Yeah. Was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing— but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was the teacher, was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes, I'm trying to even remember their names, and I can't because we stayed in a house just one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balna Craig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:42]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something. I think, eh, Miss Blonde. Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Turkey, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankering to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that took me go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me, or I would annoy her, and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience— did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much as— but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:33]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away? Could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away and what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, they would hang me. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold onto the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to get a bit fed up. They just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that was just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they was taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because I'm in a stroke unit. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Anchor Junior, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to, um, your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie and all. So I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no right nor that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would I do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians and they were taking me to the church and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel, so the lady was said to take me to chapel She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once they went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, going up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hostel, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 10th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Peratory, for me. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and my auntie says that he would have to go to jail, but it ended up, and they ended up with he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her. Which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm no bother, I'm the one who'll ask him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just— I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she wasn't. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know, if I remember, I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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/home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput)) #40 {main} [previous exception] [object] (PDOException(code: 22001): SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php:609) [stacktrace] #0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(609): PDOStatement->execute() #1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(827): 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15th of '68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care. What happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, isn't it? [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said, take her away, I can't control her. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me, should I went to school, Matt. But this is no, um, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? [B 07:23]: Yeah. [A 07:25]: My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, kiddin'. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilsayth. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the day that I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? 13. [A 10:09]: Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff public park, was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going like, tell me do handstands. Eh, I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I said I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyll and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978. The placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay, so this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— was the, um, what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, there was different clothes. I had people that already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room She wouldn't have committed it, but I says, no, come on, my gran and that sat the tailor room through it. But so they had to tell the teachers about the women that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them, the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, I just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies? Hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. And so I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front end, right? So they were— we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of night, you know what I mean? [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. then it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this to this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: Oh, I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle, because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I can't tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh, I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was the night and it was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:28]: I went to school there, I know. I think, I don't know, I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: The Balmer, whatever you call it. [B 43:46]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we ask for her hand back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnahcraig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnahcraig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man hurt me, slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got in trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas, I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I'd stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye! It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:22]: Yeah. Was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing— but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was the teacher, was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes, I'm trying to even remember their names, and I can't because we stayed in a house just one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balna Craig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:42]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something. I think, eh, Miss Blonde. Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Turkey, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankering to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that took me go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me, or I would annoy her, and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience— did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much as— but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:33]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away? Could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away and what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, they would hang me. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold onto the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to get a bit fed up. They just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that was just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they was taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because I'm in a stroke unit. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Anchor Junior, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to, um, your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie and all. So I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no right nor that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would I do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians and they were taking me to the church and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel, so the lady was said to take me to chapel She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once they went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, going up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hostel, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 10th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Peratory, for me. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and my auntie says that he would have to go to jail, but it ended up, and they ended up with he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her. Which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm no bother, I'm the one who'll ask him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just— I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she wasn't. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know, if I remember, I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15th of '68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care. What happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, isn't it? [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said, take her away, I can't control her. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me, should I went to school, Matt. But this is no, um, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? [B 07:23]: Yeah. [A 07:25]: My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, kiddin'. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilsayth. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the day that I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? 13. [A 10:09]: Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff public park, was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going like, tell me do handstands. Eh, I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I said I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyll and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978. The placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay, so this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— was the, um, what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, there was different clothes. I had people that already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room She wouldn't have committed it, but I says, no, come on, my gran and that sat the tailor room through it. But so they had to tell the teachers about the women that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them, the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, I just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies? Hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. And so I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front end, right? So they were— we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of night, you know what I mean? [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. then it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this to this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: Oh, I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle, because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I can't tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh, I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was the night and it was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:28]: I went to school there, I know. I think, I don't know, I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: The Balmer, whatever you call it. [B 43:46]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we ask for her hand back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnahcraig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnahcraig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man hurt me, slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got in trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas, I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I'd stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye! It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:22]: Yeah. Was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing— but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was the teacher, was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes, I'm trying to even remember their names, and I can't because we stayed in a house just one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balna Craig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:42]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something. I think, eh, Miss Blonde. Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Turkey, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankering to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that took me go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me, or I would annoy her, and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience— did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much as— but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:33]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away? Could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away and what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, they would hang me. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold onto the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to get a bit fed up. They just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that was just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they was taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because I'm in a stroke unit. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Anchor Junior, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to, um, your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie and all. So I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no right nor that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would I do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians and they were taking me to the church and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel, so the lady was said to take me to chapel She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once they went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, going up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hostel, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 10th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Peratory, for me. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and my auntie says that he would have to go to jail, but it ended up, and they ended up with he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her. Which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm no bother, I'm the one who'll ask him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just— I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she wasn't. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know, if I remember, I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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Theresa?","start":563474,"end":565939,"confidence":0.8842724600000000378940967493690550327301025390625},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"B","text":"Yeah.","start":570040,"end":570088,"confidence":0.5491445999999999827423380338586866855621337890625},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"B","text":"And were you separated from any of them during your time in care?","start":570137,"end":573581,"confidence":0.821921169999999978728055793908424675464630126953125},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"A","text":"I was away for them all, aye.","start":577213,"end":579446,"confidence":0.61628680000000002348059524592827074229717254638671875},{"sentiment":"NEGATIVE","speaker":"A","text":"I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well.","start":586370,"end":597011,"confidence":0.53238339999999995111323869423358701169490814208984375},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"B","text":"Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were 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Glen.","start":804870,"end":806770,"confidence":0.875427399999999966695440889452584087848663330078125},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"A","text":"Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends.","start":807624,"end":810087,"confidence":0.7803588500000000482970108350855298340320587158203125},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"A","text":"I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair.","start":811526,"end":821355,"confidence":0.90230049999999994980726114590652287006378173828125},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"A","text":"I can't remember the name of that one.","start":822650,"end":824221,"confidence":0.69688969999999994531236779948812909424304962158203125},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"A","text":"I don't know, it was a Scouse bit 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15th of '68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care. What happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, isn't it? [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said, take her away, I can't control her. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me, should I went to school, Matt. But this is no, um, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? [B 07:23]: Yeah. [A 07:25]: My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, kiddin'. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilsayth. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the day that I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? 13. [A 10:09]: Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff public park, was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going like, tell me do handstands. Eh, I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I said I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyll and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978. The placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay, so this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— was the, um, what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, there was different clothes. I had people that already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room She wouldn't have committed it, but I says, no, come on, my gran and that sat the tailor room through it. But so they had to tell the teachers about the women that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them, the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, I just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies? Hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. And so I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front end, right? So they were— we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of night, you know what I mean? [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. then it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this to this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: Oh, I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle, because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I can't tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh, I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was the night and it was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:28]: I went to school there, I know. I think, I don't know, I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: The Balmer, whatever you call it. [B 43:46]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we ask for her hand back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnahcraig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnahcraig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man hurt me, slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got in trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas, I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I'd stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye! It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:22]: Yeah. Was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing— but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was the teacher, was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes, I'm trying to even remember their names, and I can't because we stayed in a house just one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balna Craig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:42]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something. I think, eh, Miss Blonde. Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Turkey, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankering to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that took me go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me, or I would annoy her, and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience— did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much as— but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:33]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away? Could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away and what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, they would hang me. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold onto the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to get a bit fed up. They just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that was just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they was taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because I'm in a stroke unit. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Anchor Junior, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to, um, your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie and all. So I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no right nor that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would I do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians and they were taking me to the church and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel, so the lady was said to take me to chapel She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once they went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, going up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hostel, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 10th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Peratory, for me. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and my auntie says that he would have to go to jail, but it ended up, and they ended up with he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her. Which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm no bother, I'm the one who'll ask him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just— I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she wasn't. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know, if I remember, I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15th of '68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care. What happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, isn't it? [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said, take her away, I can't control her. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me, should I went to school, Matt. But this is no, um, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? [B 07:23]: Yeah. [A 07:25]: My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, kiddin'. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilsayth. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the day that I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? 13. [A 10:09]: Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff public park, was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going like, tell me do handstands. Eh, I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I said I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyll and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978. The placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay, so this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— was the, um, what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, there was different clothes. I had people that already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room She wouldn't have committed it, but I says, no, come on, my gran and that sat the tailor room through it. But so they had to tell the teachers about the women that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them, the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, I just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies? Hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. And so I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front end, right? So they were— we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of night, you know what I mean? [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. then it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this to this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: Oh, I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle, because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I can't tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh, I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was the night and it was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:28]: I went to school there, I know. I think, I don't know, I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: The Balmer, whatever you call it. [B 43:46]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we ask for her hand back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnahcraig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnahcraig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man hurt me, slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got in trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas, I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I'd stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye! It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:22]: Yeah. Was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing— but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was the teacher, was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes, I'm trying to even remember their names, and I can't because we stayed in a house just one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balna Craig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:42]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something. I think, eh, Miss Blonde. Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Turkey, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankering to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that took me go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me, or I would annoy her, and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience— did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much as— but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:33]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away? Could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away and what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, they would hang me. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold onto the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to get a bit fed up. They just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that was just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they was taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because I'm in a stroke unit. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Anchor Junior, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to, um, your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie and all. So I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no right nor that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would I do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians and they were taking me to the church and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel, so the lady was said to take me to chapel She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once they went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, going up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hostel, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 10th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Peratory, for me. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and my auntie says that he would have to go to jail, but it ended up, and they ended up with he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her. Which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm no bother, I'm the one who'll ask him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just— I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she wasn't. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know, if I remember, I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge— I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution— and movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: Yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said they could have a wee account of control. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me, should I went to school, Matt. But this is no, um, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? [B 07:23]: Yeah. [A 07:25]: My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, kiddin'. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? [A 09:30]: Yeah. [B 09:30]: And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? 13. [A 10:09]: Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff court department, was the very first one I was in, and they read to me, eh, Paulie's 20 pair of boots, because 2 lashes ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going like, tell me do handstands. Eh, I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I said I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. [A 13:49]: I can't remember the name of it. [B 13:52]: That's okay if you can't remember, don't worry yourself too much. So that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. As I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyll and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:14]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa, Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed it, but I says, no, come on, my gran and that sat the tailor room through it. But so they had to tell the teachers about the women that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hang-up could say it too, do you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question, it may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lassies had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was— I never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle, because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lasses running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhouse. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:27]: I went to school there, I know. I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I says that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think to me I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? [A 46:16]: Aye. [B 46:19]: And how long was you there, Father? [A 46:20]: Either I was in there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we ask for her hand back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: Yeah, we knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I thought it was my birthday. That's Christmas. I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes, that was the one. [A 51:50]: I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— she was I was just sitting. [B 54:06]: Yeah, how, how, um, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:18]: Yeah, was, um, there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:37]: Oh, he slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years ago, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing— but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be actually abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. Um, so that was in relation to physical abuse. And looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was— the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have— who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. Yeah. Oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda, and I think she's left now. No, Belinda, oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis, she was a social worker. [B 66:24]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker, aye, I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stole my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over, so Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, you never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to get a bit lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that was just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept telling them to shut the door and then I asked them if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you were put into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:44]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 81:56]: Aye, so they locked it. Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: It came— we ended up with nothing. They got us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually, then told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there went to that, but I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They weren't going to get it down? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie and all. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well and that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel. She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up, I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school now. I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other, the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 13th, 1978, and it was until the 6th, uh, it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something women, do you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that, but I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him but he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge— I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution— and movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: Yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said they could have a wee account of control. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me, should I went to school, Matt. But this is no, um, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? [B 07:23]: Yeah. [A 07:25]: My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, kiddin'. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? [A 09:30]: Yeah. [B 09:30]: And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? 13. [A 10:09]: Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff court department, was the very first one I was in, and they read to me, eh, Paulie's 20 pair of boots, because 2 lashes ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going like, tell me do handstands. Eh, I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I said I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. [A 13:49]: I can't remember the name of it. [B 13:52]: That's okay if you can't remember, don't worry yourself too much. So that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. As I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyll and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:14]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa, Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed it, but I says, no, come on, my gran and that sat the tailor room through it. But so they had to tell the teachers about the women that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hang-up could say it too, do you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question, it may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lassies had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was— I never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle, because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lasses running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhouse. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:27]: I went to school there, I know. I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I says that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think to me I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? [A 46:16]: Aye. [B 46:19]: And how long was you there, Father? [A 46:20]: Either I was in there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we ask for her hand back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: Yeah, we knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I thought it was my birthday. That's Christmas. I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes, that was the one. [A 51:50]: I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— she was I was just sitting. [B 54:06]: Yeah, how, how, um, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:18]: Yeah, was, um, there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:37]: Oh, he slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years ago, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing— but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be actually abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. Um, so that was in relation to physical abuse. And looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was— the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have— who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. Yeah. Oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda, and I think she's left now. No, Belinda, oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis, she was a social worker. [B 66:24]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker, aye, I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stole my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over, so Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, you never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to get a bit lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that was just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept telling them to shut the door and then I asked them if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you were put into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:44]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 81:56]: Aye, so they locked it. Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: It came— we ended up with nothing. They got us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually, then told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there went to that, but I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They weren't going to get it down? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie and all. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well and that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel. She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up, I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school now. I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other, the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 13th, 1978, and it was until the 6th, uh, it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something women, do you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that, but I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him but he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge— I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution— and movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: Yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said they could have a wee account of control. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me, should I went to school, Matt. But this is no, um, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? [B 07:23]: Yeah. [A 07:25]: My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, kiddin'. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? [A 09:30]: Yeah. [B 09:30]: And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? 13. [A 10:09]: Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff court department, was the very first one I was in, and they read to me, eh, Paulie's 20 pair of boots, because 2 lashes ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going like, tell me do handstands. Eh, I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I said I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. [A 13:49]: I can't remember the name of it. [B 13:52]: That's okay if you can't remember, don't worry yourself too much. So that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. As I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyll and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:14]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa, Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed it, but I says, no, come on, my gran and that sat the tailor room through it. But so they had to tell the teachers about the women that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hang-up could say it too, do you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question, it may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lassies had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was— I never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle, because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lasses running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhouse. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:27]: I went to school there, I know. I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I says that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think to me I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? [A 46:16]: Aye. [B 46:19]: And how long was you there, Father? [A 46:20]: Either I was in there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we ask for her hand back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: Yeah, we knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I thought it was my birthday. That's Christmas. I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes, that was the one. [A 51:50]: I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— she was I was just sitting. [B 54:06]: Yeah, how, how, um, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:18]: Yeah, was, um, there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:37]: Oh, he slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years ago, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing— but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be actually abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. Um, so that was in relation to physical abuse. And looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was— the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have— who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. Yeah. Oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda, and I think she's left now. No, Belinda, oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis, she was a social worker. [B 66:24]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker, aye, I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stole my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over, so Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, you never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to get a bit lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that was just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept telling them to shut the door and then I asked them if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you were put into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:44]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 81:56]: Aye, so they locked it. Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: It came— we ended up with nothing. They got us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually, then told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there went to that, but I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They weren't going to get it down? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie and all. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well and that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel. She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up, I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school now. I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other, the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 13th, 1978, and it was until the 6th, uh, it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something women, do you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that, but I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him but he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge— I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution— and movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: Yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said they could have a wee account of control. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me, should I went to school, Matt. But this is no, um, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? [B 07:23]: Yeah. [A 07:25]: My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, kiddin'. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? [A 09:30]: Yeah. [B 09:30]: And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? 13. [A 10:09]: Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff court department, was the very first one I was in, and they read to me, eh, Paulie's 20 pair of boots, because 2 lashes ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going like, tell me do handstands. Eh, I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I said I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. [A 13:49]: I can't remember the name of it. [B 13:52]: That's okay if you can't remember, don't worry yourself too much. So that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. As I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyll and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:14]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa, Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed it, but I says, no, come on, my gran and that sat the tailor room through it. But so they had to tell the teachers about the women that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hang-up could say it too, do you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question, it may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lassies had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was— I never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle, because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lasses running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhouse. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:27]: I went to school there, I know. I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I says that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think to me I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? [A 46:16]: Aye. [B 46:19]: And how long was you there, Father? [A 46:20]: Either I was in there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we ask for her hand back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: Yeah, we knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I thought it was my birthday. That's Christmas. I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes, that was the one. [A 51:50]: I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— she was I was just sitting. [B 54:06]: Yeah, how, how, um, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:18]: Yeah, was, um, there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:37]: Oh, he slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years ago, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing— but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be actually abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. Um, so that was in relation to physical abuse. And looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was— the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have— who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. Yeah. Oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda, and I think she's left now. No, Belinda, oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis, she was a social worker. [B 66:24]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker, aye, I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stole my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over, so Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, you never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to get a bit lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that was just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept telling them to shut the door and then I asked them if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you were put into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:44]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 81:56]: Aye, so they locked it. Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: It came— we ended up with nothing. They got us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually, then told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there went to that, but I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They weren't going to get it down? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie and all. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well and that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel. She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up, I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school now. I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other, the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 13th, 1978, and it was until the 6th, uh, it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something women, do you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that, but I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him but he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge— I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution— and movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: Yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said they could have a wee account of control. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me, should I went to school, Matt. But this is no, um, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? [B 07:23]: Yeah. [A 07:25]: My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, kiddin'. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? [A 09:30]: Yeah. [B 09:30]: And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? 13. [A 10:09]: Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff court department, was the very first one I was in, and they read to me, eh, Paulie's 20 pair of boots, because 2 lashes ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going like, tell me do handstands. Eh, I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I said I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. [A 13:49]: I can't remember the name of it. [B 13:52]: That's okay if you can't remember, don't worry yourself too much. So that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. As I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyll and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:14]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa, Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed it, but I says, no, come on, my gran and that sat the tailor room through it. But so they had to tell the teachers about the women that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hang-up could say it too, do you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question, it may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lassies had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was— I never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle, because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lasses running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhouse. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:27]: I went to school there, I know. I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I says that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think to me I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? [A 46:16]: Aye. [B 46:19]: And how long was you there, Father? [A 46:20]: Either I was in there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we ask for her hand back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: Yeah, we knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I thought it was my birthday. That's Christmas. I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes, that was the one. [A 51:50]: I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— she was I was just sitting. [B 54:06]: Yeah, how, how, um, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:18]: Yeah, was, um, there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:37]: Oh, he slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years ago, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing— but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be actually abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. Um, so that was in relation to physical abuse. And looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was— the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have— who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. Yeah. Oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda, and I think she's left now. No, Belinda, oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis, she was a social worker. [B 66:24]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker, aye, I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stole my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over, so Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, you never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to get a bit lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that was just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept telling them to shut the door and then I asked them if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you were put into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:44]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 81:56]: Aye, so they locked it. Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: It came— we ended up with nothing. They got us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually, then told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there went to that, but I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They weren't going to get it down? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie and all. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well and that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel. She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up, I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school now. I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other, the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 13th, 1978, and it was until the 6th, uh, it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something women, do you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that, but I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him but he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge— I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution— and movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: Yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said they could have a wee account of control. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me, should I went to school, Matt. But this is no, um, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? [B 07:23]: Yeah. [A 07:25]: My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, kiddin'. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? [A 09:30]: Yeah. [B 09:30]: And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? 13. [A 10:09]: Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff court department, was the very first one I was in, and they read to me, eh, Paulie's 20 pair of boots, because 2 lashes ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going like, tell me do handstands. Eh, I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I said I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. [A 13:49]: I can't remember the name of it. [B 13:52]: That's okay if you can't remember, don't worry yourself too much. So that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. As I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyll and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:14]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa, Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed it, but I says, no, come on, my gran and that sat the tailor room through it. But so they had to tell the teachers about the women that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hang-up could say it too, do you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question, it may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lassies had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was— I never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle, because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lasses running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhouse. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:27]: I went to school there, I know. I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I says that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think to me I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? [A 46:16]: Aye. [B 46:19]: And how long was you there, Father? [A 46:20]: Either I was in there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we ask for her hand back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: Yeah, we knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I thought it was my birthday. That's Christmas. I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes, that was the one. [A 51:50]: I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— she was I was just sitting. [B 54:06]: Yeah, how, how, um, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:18]: Yeah, was, um, there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:37]: Oh, he slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years ago, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing— but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be actually abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. Um, so that was in relation to physical abuse. And looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was— the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have— who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. Yeah. Oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda, and I think she's left now. No, Belinda, oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis, she was a social worker. [B 66:24]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker, aye, I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stole my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over, so Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, you never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to get a bit lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that was just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept telling them to shut the door and then I asked them if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you were put into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:44]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 81:56]: Aye, so they locked it. Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: It came— we ended up with nothing. They got us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually, then told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there went to that, but I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They weren't going to get it down? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie and all. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well and that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel. She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up, I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school now. I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other, the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 13th, 1978, and it was until the 6th, uh, it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something women, do you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that, but I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him but he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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Glen.","start":804870,"end":806770,"confidence":0.875427399999999966695440889452584087848663330078125},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"A","text":"Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends.","start":807624,"end":810087,"confidence":0.7803588500000000482970108350855298340320587158203125},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"A","text":"I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair.","start":811526,"end":821355,"confidence":0.90230049999999994980726114590652287006378173828125},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"A","text":"I can't remember the name of that one.","start":822650,"end":824221,"confidence":0.69688969999999994531236779948812909424304962158203125},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"A","text":"I don't know, it was a Scouse bit 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge— I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution— and movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: Yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said they could have a wee account of control. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me, should I went to school, Matt. But this is no, um, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? [B 07:23]: Yeah. [A 07:25]: My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, kiddin'. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? [A 09:30]: Yeah. [B 09:30]: And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? 13. [A 10:09]: Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff court department, was the very first one I was in, and they read to me, eh, Paulie's 20 pair of boots, because 2 lashes ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going like, tell me do handstands. Eh, I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I said I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. [A 13:49]: I can't remember the name of it. [B 13:52]: That's okay if you can't remember, don't worry yourself too much. So that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. As I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyll and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:14]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa, Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed it, but I says, no, come on, my gran and that sat the tailor room through it. But so they had to tell the teachers about the women that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hang-up could say it too, do you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question, it may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lassies had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was— I never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle, because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lasses running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhouse. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:27]: I went to school there, I know. I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I says that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think to me I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? [A 46:16]: Aye. [B 46:19]: And how long was you there, Father? [A 46:20]: Either I was in there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we ask for her hand back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: Yeah, we knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I thought it was my birthday. That's Christmas. I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes, that was the one. [A 51:50]: I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— she was I was just sitting. [B 54:06]: Yeah, how, how, um, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:18]: Yeah, was, um, there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:37]: Oh, he slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years ago, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing— but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be actually abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. Um, so that was in relation to physical abuse. And looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was— the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have— who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. Yeah. Oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda, and I think she's left now. No, Belinda, oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis, she was a social worker. [B 66:24]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker, aye, I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stole my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over, so Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, you never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to get a bit lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that was just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept telling them to shut the door and then I asked them if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you were put into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:44]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 81:56]: Aye, so they locked it. Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: It came— we ended up with nothing. They got us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually, then told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there went to that, but I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They weren't going to get it down? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie and all. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well and that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel. She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up, I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school now. I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other, the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 13th, 1978, and it was until the 6th, uh, it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something women, do you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that, but I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him but he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge— I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution— and movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: Yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said they could have a wee account of control. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me, should I went to school, Matt. But this is no, um, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? [B 07:23]: Yeah. [A 07:25]: My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, kiddin'. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? [A 09:30]: Yeah. [B 09:30]: And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? 13. [A 10:09]: Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff court department, was the very first one I was in, and they read to me, eh, Paulie's 20 pair of boots, because 2 lashes ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going like, tell me do handstands. Eh, I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I said I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. [A 13:49]: I can't remember the name of it. [B 13:52]: That's okay if you can't remember, don't worry yourself too much. So that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. As I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyll and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:14]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa, Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed it, but I says, no, come on, my gran and that sat the tailor room through it. But so they had to tell the teachers about the women that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hang-up could say it too, do you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question, it may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lassies had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was— I never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle, because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lasses running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhouse. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:27]: I went to school there, I know. I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I says that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think to me I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? [A 46:16]: Aye. [B 46:19]: And how long was you there, Father? [A 46:20]: Either I was in there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we ask for her hand back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: Yeah, we knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I thought it was my birthday. That's Christmas. I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes, that was the one. [A 51:50]: I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— she was I was just sitting. [B 54:06]: Yeah, how, how, um, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:18]: Yeah, was, um, there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:37]: Oh, he slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years ago, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing— but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be actually abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. Um, so that was in relation to physical abuse. And looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was— the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have— who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. Yeah. Oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda, and I think she's left now. No, Belinda, oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis, she was a social worker. [B 66:24]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker, aye, I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stole my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over, so Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, you never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to get a bit lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that was just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept telling them to shut the door and then I asked them if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you were put into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:44]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 81:56]: Aye, so they locked it. Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: It came— we ended up with nothing. They got us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually, then told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there went to that, but I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They weren't going to get it down? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie and all. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well and that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel. She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up, I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school now. I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other, the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 13th, 1978, and it was until the 6th, uh, it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something women, do you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that, but I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him but he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge— I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution— and movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: Yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said they could have a wee account of control. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me, should I went to school, Matt. But this is no, um, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? [B 07:23]: Yeah. [A 07:25]: My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, kiddin'. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? [A 09:30]: Yeah. [B 09:30]: And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? 13. [A 10:09]: Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff court department, was the very first one I was in, and they read to me, eh, Paulie's 20 pair of boots, because 2 lashes ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going like, tell me do handstands. Eh, I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I said I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. [A 13:49]: I can't remember the name of it. [B 13:52]: That's okay if you can't remember, don't worry yourself too much. So that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. As I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyll and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:14]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa, Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed it, but I says, no, come on, my gran and that sat the tailor room through it. But so they had to tell the teachers about the women that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hang-up could say it too, do you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question, it may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lassies had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was— I never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle, because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lasses running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhouse. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:27]: I went to school there, I know. I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I says that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think to me I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? [A 46:16]: Aye. [B 46:19]: And how long was you there, Father? [A 46:20]: Either I was in there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we ask for her hand back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: Yeah, we knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I thought it was my birthday. That's Christmas. I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes, that was the one. [A 51:50]: I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— she was I was just sitting. [B 54:06]: Yeah, how, how, um, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:18]: Yeah, was, um, there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:37]: Oh, he slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years ago, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing— but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be actually abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. Um, so that was in relation to physical abuse. And looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was— the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have— who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. Yeah. Oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda, and I think she's left now. No, Belinda, oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis, she was a social worker. [B 66:24]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker, aye, I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stole my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over, so Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, you never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to get a bit lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that was just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept telling them to shut the door and then I asked them if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you were put into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:44]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 81:56]: Aye, so they locked it. Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: It came— we ended up with nothing. They got us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually, then told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there went to that, but I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They weren't going to get it down? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie and all. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well and that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel. She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up, I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school now. I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other, the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 13th, 1978, and it was until the 6th, uh, it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something women, do you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that, but I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him but he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge— I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution— and movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: Yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said they could have a wee account of control. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me, should I went to school, Matt. But this is no, um, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? [B 07:23]: Yeah. [A 07:25]: My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, kiddin'. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? [A 09:30]: Yeah. [B 09:30]: And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? 13. [A 10:09]: Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff court department, was the very first one I was in, and they read to me, eh, Paulie's 20 pair of boots, because 2 lashes ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going like, tell me do handstands. Eh, I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I said I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. [A 13:49]: I can't remember the name of it. [B 13:52]: That's okay if you can't remember, don't worry yourself too much. So that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. As I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyll and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:14]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa, Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed it, but I says, no, come on, my gran and that sat the tailor room through it. But so they had to tell the teachers about the women that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hang-up could say it too, do you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question, it may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lassies had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was— I never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle, because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lasses running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhouse. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:27]: I went to school there, I know. I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I says that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think to me I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? [A 46:16]: Aye. [B 46:19]: And how long was you there, Father? [A 46:20]: Either I was in there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we ask for her hand back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: Yeah, we knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I thought it was my birthday. That's Christmas. I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes, that was the one. [A 51:50]: I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— she was I was just sitting. [B 54:06]: Yeah, how, how, um, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:18]: Yeah, was, um, there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:37]: Oh, he slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years ago, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing— but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be actually abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. Um, so that was in relation to physical abuse. And looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was— the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have— who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. Yeah. Oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda, and I think she's left now. No, Belinda, oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis, she was a social worker. [B 66:24]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker, aye, I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stole my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over, so Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, you never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to get a bit lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that was just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept telling them to shut the door and then I asked them if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you were put into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:44]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 81:56]: Aye, so they locked it. Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: It came— we ended up with nothing. They got us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually, then told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there went to that, but I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They weren't going to get it down? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie and all. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well and that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel. She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up, I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school now. I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other, the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 13th, 1978, and it was until the 6th, uh, it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something women, do you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that, but I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him but he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge— I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution— and movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: Yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said they could have a wee account of control. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me, should I went to school, Matt. But this is no, um, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? [B 07:23]: Yeah. [A 07:25]: My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, kiddin'. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? [A 09:30]: Yeah. [B 09:30]: And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? 13. [A 10:09]: Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff court department, was the very first one I was in, and they read to me, eh, Paulie's 20 pair of boots, because 2 lashes ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going like, tell me do handstands. Eh, I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I said I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. [A 13:49]: I can't remember the name of it. [B 13:52]: That's okay if you can't remember, don't worry yourself too much. So that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. As I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyll and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:14]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa, Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed it, but I says, no, come on, my gran and that sat the tailor room through it. But so they had to tell the teachers about the women that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hang-up could say it too, do you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question, it may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lassies had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was— I never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle, because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lasses running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhouse. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:27]: I went to school there, I know. I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I says that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think to me I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? [A 46:16]: Aye. [B 46:19]: And how long was you there, Father? [A 46:20]: Either I was in there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we ask for her hand back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: Yeah, we knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I thought it was my birthday. That's Christmas. I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes, that was the one. [A 51:50]: I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— she was I was just sitting. [B 54:06]: Yeah, how, how, um, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:18]: Yeah, was, um, there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:37]: Oh, he slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years ago, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing— but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be actually abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. Um, so that was in relation to physical abuse. And looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was— the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have— who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. Yeah. Oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda, and I think she's left now. No, Belinda, oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis, she was a social worker. [B 66:24]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker, aye, I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stole my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over, so Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, you never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to get a bit lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that was just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept telling them to shut the door and then I asked them if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you were put into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:44]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 81:56]: Aye, so they locked it. Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: It came— we ended up with nothing. They got us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually, then told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there went to that, but I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They weren't going to get it down? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie and all. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well and that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel. She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up, I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school now. I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other, the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 13th, 1978, and it was until the 6th, uh, it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something women, do you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that, but I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him but he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge— I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution— and movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: Yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said they could have a wee account of control. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me, should I went to school, Matt. But this is no, um, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? [B 07:23]: Yeah. [A 07:25]: My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, kiddin'. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? [A 09:30]: Yeah. [B 09:30]: And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? 13. [A 10:09]: Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff court department, was the very first one I was in, and they read to me, eh, Paulie's 20 pair of boots, because 2 lashes ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going like, tell me do handstands. Eh, I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I said I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. [A 13:49]: I can't remember the name of it. [B 13:52]: That's okay if you can't remember, don't worry yourself too much. So that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. As I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyll and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:14]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa, Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed it, but I says, no, come on, my gran and that sat the tailor room through it. But so they had to tell the teachers about the women that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hang-up could say it too, do you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question, it may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lassies had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was— I never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle, because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lasses running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhouse. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:27]: I went to school there, I know. I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I says that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think to me I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? [A 46:16]: Aye. [B 46:19]: And how long was you there, Father? [A 46:20]: Either I was in there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we ask for her hand back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: Yeah, we knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I thought it was my birthday. That's Christmas. I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes, that was the one. [A 51:50]: I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— she was I was just sitting. [B 54:06]: Yeah, how, how, um, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:18]: Yeah, was, um, there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:37]: Oh, he slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years ago, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing— but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be actually abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. Um, so that was in relation to physical abuse. And looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was— the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have— who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. Yeah. Oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda, and I think she's left now. No, Belinda, oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis, she was a social worker. [B 66:24]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker, aye, I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stole my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over, so Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, you never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to get a bit lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that was just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept telling them to shut the door and then I asked them if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you were put into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:44]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 81:56]: Aye, so they locked it. Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: It came— we ended up with nothing. They got us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually, then told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there went to that, but I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They weren't going to get it down? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie and all. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well and that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel. She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up, I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school now. I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other, the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 13th, 1978, and it was until the 6th, uh, it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something women, do you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that, but I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him but he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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/home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput)) #40 {main} [previous exception] [object] (PDOException(code: 22001): SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php:609) [stacktrace] #0 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15th of '68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. 1 being opening and consent, 2 being your personal background and entry into care, 3 is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly. Before we move on, we'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like, you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said, take her away, I can't control her. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting junk in the hang, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, you know. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:09]: 13, oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was me to polish 20 pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well. But he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now. But at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowarder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel. And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just, I think, they had me out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my granny, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Dory says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hang-up could say it too, do you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question, it may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: Oh, I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I can't tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away, plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? [A 43:21]: But that name is that institution For Balmer Craig School. I went to school there, I know. I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet kit knocked when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast, and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we actually had her back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man hurt me, slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provided any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me, you know what I mean, because I'd stuck up. They were all waiting for me at the train station, so I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how did this staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— Yeah. [B 54:27]: Was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing— but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know, but then, puttin' the clothes within ya spoilt ya, spoilt ya up. [B 58:41]: So, just to confirm, that was the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names, and I can't because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:49]: Oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help? When? When the incident occurred. [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped him. I says, the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:41]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: I was placed in it, and they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up, open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter, said, 'Come to Glen,' it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that took me go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stole my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd stop fagging in again, he would give me a fag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would willingly take it because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, you never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much as— but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:33]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back in the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you were put into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:44]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 81:56]: Aye, so they locked it. Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I'll tell Ronu then. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governor the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as they went, they went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, but I think I had had to drink a I wouldn't enter the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie and all. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was awful. 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just flung the paper at them. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just flung the paper at them. I'm no raving or that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would I do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel. She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee? Was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once they went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school now. I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in yet, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, do you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's how I can't remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 13th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Peratory, for that. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and my auntie says that he would have gone to jail, but it ended up, and they ended up with he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him but he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell him about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept going down the stairs when I was polishing the stairs and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15th of '68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. 1 being opening and consent, 2 being your personal background and entry into care, 3 is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly. Before we move on, we'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like, you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said, take her away, I can't control her. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting junk in the hang, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, you know. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:09]: 13, oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was me to polish 20 pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well. But he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now. But at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowarder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel. And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just, I think, they had me out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my granny, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Dory says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hang-up could say it too, do you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question, it may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: Oh, I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I can't tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away, plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? [A 43:21]: But that name is that institution For Balmer Craig School. I went to school there, I know. I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet kit knocked when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast, and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we actually had her back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man hurt me, slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provided any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me, you know what I mean, because I'd stuck up. They were all waiting for me at the train station, so I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how did this staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— Yeah. [B 54:27]: Was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing— but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know, but then, puttin' the clothes within ya spoilt ya, spoilt ya up. [B 58:41]: So, just to confirm, that was the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names, and I can't because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:49]: Oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help? When? When the incident occurred. [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped him. I says, the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:41]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: I was placed in it, and they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up, open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter, said, 'Come to Glen,' it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that took me go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stole my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd stop fagging in again, he would give me a fag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would willingly take it because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, you never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much as— but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:33]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back in the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you were put into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:44]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 81:56]: Aye, so they locked it. Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I'll tell Ronu then. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governor the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as they went, they went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, but I think I had had to drink a I wouldn't enter the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie and all. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was awful. 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just flung the paper at them. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just flung the paper at them. I'm no raving or that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would I do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel. She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee? Was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once they went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school now. I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in yet, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, do you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's how I can't remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 13th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Peratory, for that. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and my auntie says that he would have gone to jail, but it ended up, and they ended up with he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him but he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell him about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept going down the stairs when I was polishing the stairs and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15th of '68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. 1 being opening and consent, 2 being your personal background and entry into care, 3 is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly. Before we move on, we'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like, you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said, take her away, I can't control her. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting junk in the hang, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, you know. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:09]: 13, oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was me to polish 20 pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well. But he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now. But at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowarder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel. And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just, I think, they had me out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my granny, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Dory says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hang-up could say it too, do you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question, it may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: Oh, I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I can't tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away, plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? [A 43:21]: But that name is that institution For Balmer Craig School. I went to school there, I know. I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet kit knocked when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast, and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we actually had her back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man hurt me, slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provided any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me, you know what I mean, because I'd stuck up. They were all waiting for me at the train station, so I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how did this staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— Yeah. [B 54:27]: Was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing— but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know, but then, puttin' the clothes within ya spoilt ya, spoilt ya up. [B 58:41]: So, just to confirm, that was the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names, and I can't because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:49]: Oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help? When? When the incident occurred. [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped him. I says, the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:41]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: I was placed in it, and they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up, open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter, said, 'Come to Glen,' it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that took me go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stole my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd stop fagging in again, he would give me a fag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would willingly take it because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, you never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much as— but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:33]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back in the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you were put into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:44]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 81:56]: Aye, so they locked it. Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I'll tell Ronu then. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governor the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as they went, they went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, but I think I had had to drink a I wouldn't enter the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie and all. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was awful. 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just flung the paper at them. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just flung the paper at them. I'm no raving or that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would I do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel. She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee? Was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once they went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school now. I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in yet, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, do you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's how I can't remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 13th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Peratory, for that. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and my auntie says that he would have gone to jail, but it ended up, and they ended up with he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him but he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell him about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept going down the stairs when I was polishing the stairs and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15th of '68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. 1 being opening and consent, 2 being your personal background and entry into care, 3 is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly. Before we move on, we'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like, you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said, take her away, I can't control her. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting junk in the hang, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, you know. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:09]: 13, oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was me to polish 20 pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well. But he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now. But at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowarder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel. And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just, I think, they had me out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my granny, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Dory says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hang-up could say it too, do you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question, it may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: Oh, I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I can't tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away, plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? [A 43:21]: But that name is that institution For Balmer Craig School. I went to school there, I know. I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet kit knocked when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast, and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we actually had her back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man hurt me, slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provided any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me, you know what I mean, because I'd stuck up. They were all waiting for me at the train station, so I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how did this staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— Yeah. [B 54:27]: Was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing— but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know, but then, puttin' the clothes within ya spoilt ya, spoilt ya up. [B 58:41]: So, just to confirm, that was the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names, and I can't because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:49]: Oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help? When? When the incident occurred. [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped him. I says, the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:41]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: I was placed in it, and they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up, open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter, said, 'Come to Glen,' it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that took me go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stole my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd stop fagging in again, he would give me a fag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would willingly take it because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, you never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much as— but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:33]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back in the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you were put into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:44]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 81:56]: Aye, so they locked it. Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I'll tell Ronu then. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governor the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as they went, they went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, but I think I had had to drink a I wouldn't enter the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie and all. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was awful. 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just flung the paper at them. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just flung the paper at them. I'm no raving or that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would I do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel. She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee? Was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once they went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school now. I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in yet, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, do you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's how I can't remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 13th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Peratory, for that. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and my auntie says that he would have gone to jail, but it ended up, and they ended up with he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him but he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell him about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept going down the stairs when I was polishing the stairs and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15th of '68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. 1 being opening and consent, 2 being your personal background and entry into care, 3 is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly. Before we move on, we'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like, you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said, take her away, I can't control her. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting junk in the hang, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, you know. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:09]: 13, oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was me to polish 20 pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well. But he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now. But at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowarder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel. And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just, I think, they had me out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my granny, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Dory says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hang-up could say it too, do you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question, it may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: Oh, I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I can't tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away, plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? [A 43:21]: But that name is that institution For Balmer Craig School. I went to school there, I know. I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet kit knocked when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast, and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we actually had her back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man hurt me, slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provided any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me, you know what I mean, because I'd stuck up. They were all waiting for me at the train station, so I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how did this staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— Yeah. [B 54:27]: Was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing— but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know, but then, puttin' the clothes within ya spoilt ya, spoilt ya up. [B 58:41]: So, just to confirm, that was the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names, and I can't because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:49]: Oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help? When? When the incident occurred. [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped him. I says, the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:41]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: I was placed in it, and they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up, open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter, said, 'Come to Glen,' it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that took me go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stole my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd stop fagging in again, he would give me a fag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would willingly take it because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, you never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much as— but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:33]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back in the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you were put into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:44]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 81:56]: Aye, so they locked it. Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I'll tell Ronu then. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governor the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as they went, they went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, but I think I had had to drink a I wouldn't enter the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie and all. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was awful. 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just flung the paper at them. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just flung the paper at them. I'm no raving or that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would I do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel. She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee? Was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once they went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school now. I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in yet, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, do you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's how I can't remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 13th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Peratory, for that. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and my auntie says that he would have gone to jail, but it ended up, and they ended up with he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him but he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell him about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept going down the stairs when I was polishing the stairs and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15th of '68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. 1 being opening and consent, 2 being your personal background and entry into care, 3 is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly. Before we move on, we'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like, you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said, take her away, I can't control her. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting junk in the hang, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, you know. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:09]: 13, oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was me to polish 20 pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well. But he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now. But at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowarder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel. And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just, I think, they had me out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my granny, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Dory says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hang-up could say it too, do you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question, it may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: Oh, I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I can't tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away, plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? [A 43:21]: But that name is that institution For Balmer Craig School. I went to school there, I know. I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet kit knocked when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast, and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we actually had her back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man hurt me, slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provided any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me, you know what I mean, because I'd stuck up. They were all waiting for me at the train station, so I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how did this staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— Yeah. [B 54:27]: Was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing— but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know, but then, puttin' the clothes within ya spoilt ya, spoilt ya up. [B 58:41]: So, just to confirm, that was the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names, and I can't because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:49]: Oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help? When? When the incident occurred. [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped him. I says, the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:41]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: I was placed in it, and they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up, open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter, said, 'Come to Glen,' it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that took me go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stole my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd stop fagging in again, he would give me a fag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would willingly take it because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, you never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much as— but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:33]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back in the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you were put into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:44]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 81:56]: Aye, so they locked it. Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I'll tell Ronu then. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governor the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as they went, they went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, but I think I had had to drink a I wouldn't enter the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie and all. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was awful. 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just flung the paper at them. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just flung the paper at them. I'm no raving or that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would I do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel. She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee? Was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once they went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school now. I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in yet, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, do you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's how I can't remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 13th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Peratory, for that. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and my auntie says that he would have gone to jail, but it ended up, and they ended up with he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him but he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell him about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept going down the stairs when I was polishing the stairs and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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time, do you know what I mean?","start":654841,"end":657601,"confidence":0.6822248699999999832499497642857022583484649658203125},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"A","text":"But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course.","start":657666,"end":660720,"confidence":0.59789305999999997620619751614867709577083587646484375},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"B","text":"We'll come back to that once it gets there.","start":660785,"end":663081,"confidence":0.815755840000000009837322068051435053348541259765625},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"B","text":"Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can\u2014 once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15th of '68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. 1 being opening and consent, 2 being your personal background and entry into care, 3 is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly. Before we move on, we'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like, you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said, take her away, I can't control her. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting junk in the hang, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, you know. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:09]: 13, oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was me to polish 20 pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well. But he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now. But at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowarder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel. And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just, I think, they had me out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my granny, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Dory says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hang-up could say it too, do you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question, it may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: Oh, I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I can't tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away, plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? [A 43:21]: But that name is that institution For Balmer Craig School. I went to school there, I know. I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet kit knocked when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast, and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we actually had her back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man hurt me, slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provided any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me, you know what I mean, because I'd stuck up. They were all waiting for me at the train station, so I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how did this staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— Yeah. [B 54:27]: Was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing— but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know, but then, puttin' the clothes within ya spoilt ya, spoilt ya up. [B 58:41]: So, just to confirm, that was the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names, and I can't because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:49]: Oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help? When? When the incident occurred. [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped him. I says, the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:41]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: I was placed in it, and they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up, open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter, said, 'Come to Glen,' it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that took me go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stole my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd stop fagging in again, he would give me a fag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would willingly take it because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, you never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much as— but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:33]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back in the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you were put into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:44]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 81:56]: Aye, so they locked it. Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I'll tell Ronu then. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governor the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as they went, they went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, but I think I had had to drink a I wouldn't enter the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie and all. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was awful. 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just flung the paper at them. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just flung the paper at them. I'm no raving or that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would I do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel. She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee? Was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once they went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school now. I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in yet, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, do you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's how I can't remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 13th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Peratory, for that. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and my auntie says that he would have gone to jail, but it ended up, and they ended up with he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him but he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell him about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept going down the stairs when I was polishing the stairs and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15th of '68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. 1 being opening and consent, 2 being your personal background and entry into care, 3 is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly. Before we move on, we'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like, you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said, take her away, I can't control her. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting junk in the hang, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, you know. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:09]: 13, oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was me to polish 20 pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well. But he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now. But at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowarder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel. And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just, I think, they had me out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my granny, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Dory says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hang-up could say it too, do you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question, it may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: Oh, I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I can't tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away, plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? [A 43:21]: But that name is that institution For Balmer Craig School. I went to school there, I know. I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet kit knocked when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast, and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we actually had her back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man hurt me, slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provided any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me, you know what I mean, because I'd stuck up. They were all waiting for me at the train station, so I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how did this staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— Yeah. [B 54:27]: Was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing— but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know, but then, puttin' the clothes within ya spoilt ya, spoilt ya up. [B 58:41]: So, just to confirm, that was the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names, and I can't because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:49]: Oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help? When? When the incident occurred. [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped him. I says, the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:41]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: I was placed in it, and they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up, open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter, said, 'Come to Glen,' it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that took me go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stole my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd stop fagging in again, he would give me a fag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would willingly take it because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, you never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much as— but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:33]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back in the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you were put into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:44]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 81:56]: Aye, so they locked it. Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I'll tell Ronu then. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governor the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as they went, they went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, but I think I had had to drink a I wouldn't enter the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie and all. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was awful. 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just flung the paper at them. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just flung the paper at them. I'm no raving or that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would I do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel. She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee? Was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once they went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school now. I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in yet, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, do you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's how I can't remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 13th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Peratory, for that. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and my auntie says that he would have gone to jail, but it ended up, and they ended up with he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him but he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell him about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept going down the stairs when I was polishing the stairs and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? [A 03:38]: Yes. [B 03:39]: Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: Yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said taking away her kind of control, so that she had schizophrenia. So that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting junk in the hang, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, caring. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the day that I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:08]: I was 13. Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff public park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie and I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was me to polish 20 pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well. But he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now. But at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978. The placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel. And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my gran, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. I don't think it was a good time I had done that, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did this— how did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them, the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lassies had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. [B 31:48]: Yeah, so what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so they were— we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine. Don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back. I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of night, you know what I mean? [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of getting— going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. then it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: Oh, I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away, plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about them doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? Uh-huh. [A 40:05]: I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was the night, and it was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh, to polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually. Patrick had his part because I stayed there and went out to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhouse. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:28]: I went to school there, I know. I think, I don't know, I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: The Balmer, whatever you call it. [B 43:46]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet kit knocked when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said, what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we actually had her back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based at Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: Mr. Air. We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah. And was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah. I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one him. None of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got in trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I'd stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye! It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, um, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— yeah. [B 54:27]: Was, um, there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was the teacher, was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. Yeah. Oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. Yeah, even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something. I think, eh, Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Turkey, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty, nuts. [B 69:05]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to 1. [A 69:15]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from here, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that took me go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:28]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me, or I would annoy her, and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? Okay. No, no, no problem. [A 74:50]: No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, no, I don't think so. The headmaster was— he was really good to me, man. I didn't want to get sent to him. Yeah, it was— it wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him, because I knew he'd be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would willingly take it because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I come back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back in the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that was just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept telling them to shut the door and then I asked them if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I wouldn't enter the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was awful. 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. [A 90:14]: Sorry, I knew my mum was no well and that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away and had to get the police. [B 91:32]: They get the police to bring you back. [A 91:34]: Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel, She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up, I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, going up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other, the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at that point. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 10th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And they says, oh, you can't go, you're not allowed to do that, that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Has him like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that, but I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her. Which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him but he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. Yes, yes. [A 106:44]: Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? [A 03:38]: Yes. [B 03:39]: Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: Yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said taking away her kind of control, so that she had schizophrenia. So that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting junk in the hang, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, caring. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the day that I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:08]: I was 13. Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff public park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie and I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was me to polish 20 pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well. But he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now. But at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978. The placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel. And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my gran, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. I don't think it was a good time I had done that, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did this— how did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them, the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lassies had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. [B 31:48]: Yeah, so what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so they were— we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine. Don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back. I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of night, you know what I mean? [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of getting— going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. then it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: Oh, I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away, plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about them doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? Uh-huh. [A 40:05]: I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was the night, and it was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh, to polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually. Patrick had his part because I stayed there and went out to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhouse. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:28]: I went to school there, I know. I think, I don't know, I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: The Balmer, whatever you call it. [B 43:46]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet kit knocked when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said, what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we actually had her back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based at Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: Mr. Air. We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah. And was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah. I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one him. None of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got in trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I'd stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye! It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, um, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— yeah. [B 54:27]: Was, um, there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was the teacher, was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. Yeah. Oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. Yeah, even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something. I think, eh, Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Turkey, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty, nuts. [B 69:05]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to 1. [A 69:15]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from here, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that took me go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:28]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me, or I would annoy her, and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? Okay. No, no, no problem. [A 74:50]: No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, no, I don't think so. The headmaster was— he was really good to me, man. I didn't want to get sent to him. Yeah, it was— it wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him, because I knew he'd be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would willingly take it because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I come back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back in the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that was just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept telling them to shut the door and then I asked them if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I wouldn't enter the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was awful. 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. [A 90:14]: Sorry, I knew my mum was no well and that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away and had to get the police. [B 91:32]: They get the police to bring you back. [A 91:34]: Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel, She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up, I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, going up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other, the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at that point. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 10th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And they says, oh, you can't go, you're not allowed to do that, that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Has him like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that, but I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her. Which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him but he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. Yes, yes. [A 106:44]: Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean?","start":777220,"end":782390,"confidence":0.61481909999999995175556932736071757972240447998046875},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"A","text":"Yeah.","start":783060,"end":783300,"confidence":0.5491445999999999827423380338586866855621337890625},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"A","text":"My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now.","start":783300,"end":792620,"confidence":0.49835580000000001543725147712393663823604583740234375},{"sentiment":"NEGATIVE","speaker":"A","text":"But at the time I didn't understand it.","start":792620,"end":794860,"confidence":0.60145450000000000301270119962282478809356689453125},{"sentiment":"NEGATIVE","speaker":"A","text":"I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? [A 03:38]: Yes. [B 03:39]: Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: Yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said taking away her kind of control, so that she had schizophrenia. So that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting junk in the hang, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, caring. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the day that I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:08]: I was 13. Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff public park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie and I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was me to polish 20 pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well. But he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now. But at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978. The placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel. And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my gran, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. I don't think it was a good time I had done that, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did this— how did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them, the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lassies had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. [B 31:48]: Yeah, so what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so they were— we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine. Don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back. I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of night, you know what I mean? [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of getting— going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. then it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: Oh, I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away, plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about them doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? Uh-huh. [A 40:05]: I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was the night, and it was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh, to polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually. Patrick had his part because I stayed there and went out to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhouse. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:28]: I went to school there, I know. I think, I don't know, I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: The Balmer, whatever you call it. [B 43:46]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet kit knocked when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said, what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we actually had her back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based at Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: Mr. Air. We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah. And was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah. I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one him. None of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got in trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I'd stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye! It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, um, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— yeah. [B 54:27]: Was, um, there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was the teacher, was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. Yeah. Oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. Yeah, even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something. I think, eh, Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Turkey, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty, nuts. [B 69:05]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to 1. [A 69:15]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from here, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that took me go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:28]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me, or I would annoy her, and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? Okay. No, no, no problem. [A 74:50]: No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, no, I don't think so. The headmaster was— he was really good to me, man. I didn't want to get sent to him. Yeah, it was— it wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him, because I knew he'd be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would willingly take it because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I come back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back in the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that was just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept telling them to shut the door and then I asked them if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I wouldn't enter the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was awful. 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. [A 90:14]: Sorry, I knew my mum was no well and that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away and had to get the police. [B 91:32]: They get the police to bring you back. [A 91:34]: Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel, She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up, I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, going up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other, the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at that point. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 10th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And they says, oh, you can't go, you're not allowed to do that, that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Has him like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that, but I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her. Which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him but he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. Yes, yes. [A 106:44]: Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? [A 03:38]: Yes. [B 03:39]: Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: Yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said taking away her kind of control, so that she had schizophrenia. So that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting junk in the hang, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, caring. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the day that I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:08]: I was 13. Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff public park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie and I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was me to polish 20 pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well. But he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now. But at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978. The placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel. And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my gran, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. I don't think it was a good time I had done that, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did this— how did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them, the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lassies had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. [B 31:48]: Yeah, so what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so they were— we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine. Don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back. I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of night, you know what I mean? [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of getting— going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. then it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: Oh, I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away, plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about them doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? Uh-huh. [A 40:05]: I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was the night, and it was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh, to polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually. Patrick had his part because I stayed there and went out to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhouse. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:28]: I went to school there, I know. I think, I don't know, I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: The Balmer, whatever you call it. [B 43:46]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet kit knocked when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said, what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we actually had her back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based at Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: Mr. Air. We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah. And was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah. I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one him. None of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got in trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I'd stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye! It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, um, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— yeah. [B 54:27]: Was, um, there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was the teacher, was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. Yeah. Oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. Yeah, even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something. I think, eh, Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Turkey, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty, nuts. [B 69:05]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to 1. [A 69:15]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from here, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that took me go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:28]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me, or I would annoy her, and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? Okay. No, no, no problem. [A 74:50]: No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, no, I don't think so. The headmaster was— he was really good to me, man. I didn't want to get sent to him. Yeah, it was— it wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him, because I knew he'd be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would willingly take it because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I come back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back in the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that was just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept telling them to shut the door and then I asked them if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I wouldn't enter the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was awful. 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. [A 90:14]: Sorry, I knew my mum was no well and that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away and had to get the police. [B 91:32]: They get the police to bring you back. [A 91:34]: Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel, She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up, I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, going up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other, the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at that point. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 10th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And they says, oh, you can't go, you're not allowed to do that, that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Has him like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that, but I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her. Which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him but he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. Yes, yes. [A 106:44]: Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15th of '68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. 1 being opening and consent, 2 being your personal background and entry into care, 3 is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly. Before we move on, we'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like, you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said, take her away, I can't control her. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting junk in the hang, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, you know. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:09]: 13, oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was me to polish 20 pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well. But he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now. But at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowarder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel. And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just, I think, they had me out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my granny, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Dory says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hang-up could say it too, do you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question, it may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: Oh, I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I can't tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away, plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? [A 43:21]: But that name is that institution For Balmer Craig School. I went to school there, I know. I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet kit knocked when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast, and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we actually had her back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man hurt me, slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provided any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me, you know what I mean, because I'd stuck up. They were all waiting for me at the train station, so I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how did this staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— Yeah. [B 54:27]: Was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing— but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know, but then, puttin' the clothes within ya spoilt ya, spoilt ya up. [B 58:41]: So, just to confirm, that was the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names, and I can't because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:49]: Oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help? When? When the incident occurred. [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped him. I says, the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:41]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: I was placed in it, and they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up, open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter, said, 'Come to Glen,' it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that took me go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stole my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd stop fagging in again, he would give me a fag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would willingly take it because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, you never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much as— but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:33]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back in the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you were put into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:44]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 81:56]: Aye, so they locked it. Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I'll tell Ronu then. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governor the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as they went, they went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, but I think I had had to drink a I wouldn't enter the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie and all. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was awful. 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just flung the paper at them. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just flung the paper at them. I'm no raving or that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would I do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel. She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee? Was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once they went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school now. I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in yet, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, do you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's how I can't remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 13th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Peratory, for that. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and my auntie says that he would have gone to jail, but it ended up, and they ended up with he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him but he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell him about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept going down the stairs when I was polishing the stairs and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15th of '68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. 1 being opening and consent, 2 being your personal background and entry into care, 3 is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly. Before we move on, we'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like, you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said, take her away, I can't control her. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting junk in the hang, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, you know. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:09]: 13, oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was me to polish 20 pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well. But he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now. But at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowarder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel. And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just, I think, they had me out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my granny, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Dory says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hang-up could say it too, do you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question, it may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: Oh, I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I can't tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away, plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? [A 43:21]: But that name is that institution For Balmer Craig School. I went to school there, I know. I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet kit knocked when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast, and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we actually had her back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man hurt me, slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provided any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me, you know what I mean, because I'd stuck up. They were all waiting for me at the train station, so I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how did this staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— Yeah. [B 54:27]: Was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing— but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know, but then, puttin' the clothes within ya spoilt ya, spoilt ya up. [B 58:41]: So, just to confirm, that was the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names, and I can't because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:49]: Oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help? When? When the incident occurred. [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped him. I says, the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:41]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: I was placed in it, and they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up, open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter, said, 'Come to Glen,' it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that took me go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stole my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd stop fagging in again, he would give me a fag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would willingly take it because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, you never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much as— but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:33]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back in the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you were put into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:44]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 81:56]: Aye, so they locked it. Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I'll tell Ronu then. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governor the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as they went, they went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, but I think I had had to drink a I wouldn't enter the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie and all. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was awful. 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just flung the paper at them. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just flung the paper at them. I'm no raving or that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would I do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel. She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee? Was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once they went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school now. I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in yet, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, do you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's how I can't remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 13th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Peratory, for that. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and my auntie says that he would have gone to jail, but it ended up, and they ended up with he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him but he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell him about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept going down the stairs when I was polishing the stairs and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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time, do you know what I mean?","start":654841,"end":657601,"confidence":0.6822248699999999832499497642857022583484649658203125},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"A","text":"But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course.","start":657666,"end":660720,"confidence":0.59789305999999997620619751614867709577083587646484375},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"B","text":"We'll come back to that once it gets there.","start":660785,"end":663081,"confidence":0.815755840000000009837322068051435053348541259765625},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"B","text":"Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can\u2014 once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within 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weekends.","start":794860,"end":804822,"confidence":0.778917199999999976256503941840492188930511474609375},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"A","text":"I worked up in Campsie Glen.","start":804870,"end":806770,"confidence":0.875427399999999966695440889452584087848663330078125},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"A","text":"Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends.","start":807624,"end":810087,"confidence":0.7803588500000000482970108350855298340320587158203125},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"A","text":"I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair.","start":811526,"end":821355,"confidence":0.90230049999999994980726114590652287006378173828125},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"A","text":"I can't remember the name of that one.","start":822650,"end":824221,"confidence":0.69688969999999994531236779948812909424304962158203125},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"A","text":"I don't know, it was a Scouse bit 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15th of '68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. 1 being opening and consent, 2 being your personal background and entry into care, 3 is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly. Before we move on, we'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like, you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said, take her away, I can't control her. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting junk in the hang, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, you know. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:09]: 13, oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was me to polish 20 pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well. But he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now. But at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowarder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel. And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just, I think, they had me out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my granny, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Dory says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hang-up could say it too, do you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question, it may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: Oh, I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I can't tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away, plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? [A 43:21]: But that name is that institution For Balmer Craig School. I went to school there, I know. I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet kit knocked when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast, and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we actually had her back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man hurt me, slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provided any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me, you know what I mean, because I'd stuck up. They were all waiting for me at the train station, so I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how did this staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— Yeah. [B 54:27]: Was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing— but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know, but then, puttin' the clothes within ya spoilt ya, spoilt ya up. [B 58:41]: So, just to confirm, that was the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names, and I can't because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:49]: Oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help? When? When the incident occurred. [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped him. I says, the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:41]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: I was placed in it, and they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up, open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter, said, 'Come to Glen,' it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that took me go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stole my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd stop fagging in again, he would give me a fag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would willingly take it because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, you never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much as— but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:33]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back in the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you were put into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:44]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 81:56]: Aye, so they locked it. Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I'll tell Ronu then. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governor the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as they went, they went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, but I think I had had to drink a I wouldn't enter the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie and all. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was awful. 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just flung the paper at them. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just flung the paper at them. I'm no raving or that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would I do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel. She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee? Was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once they went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school now. I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in yet, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, do you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's how I can't remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 13th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Peratory, for that. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and my auntie says that he would have gone to jail, but it ended up, and they ended up with he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him but he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell him about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept going down the stairs when I was polishing the stairs and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15th of '68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. 1 being opening and consent, 2 being your personal background and entry into care, 3 is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly. Before we move on, we'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like, you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said, take her away, I can't control her. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting junk in the hang, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, you know. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:09]: 13, oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was me to polish 20 pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well. But he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now. But at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowarder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel. And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just, I think, they had me out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my granny, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Dory says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hang-up could say it too, do you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question, it may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: Oh, I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I can't tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away, plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? [A 43:21]: But that name is that institution For Balmer Craig School. I went to school there, I know. I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet kit knocked when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast, and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we actually had her back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man hurt me, slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provided any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me, you know what I mean, because I'd stuck up. They were all waiting for me at the train station, so I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how did this staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— Yeah. [B 54:27]: Was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing— but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know, but then, puttin' the clothes within ya spoilt ya, spoilt ya up. [B 58:41]: So, just to confirm, that was the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names, and I can't because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:49]: Oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help? When? When the incident occurred. [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped him. I says, the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:41]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: I was placed in it, and they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up, open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter, said, 'Come to Glen,' it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that took me go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stole my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd stop fagging in again, he would give me a fag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would willingly take it because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, you never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much as— but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:33]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back in the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you were put into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:44]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 81:56]: Aye, so they locked it. Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I'll tell Ronu then. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governor the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as they went, they went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, but I think I had had to drink a I wouldn't enter the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie and all. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was awful. 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just flung the paper at them. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just flung the paper at them. I'm no raving or that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would I do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel. She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee? Was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once they went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school now. I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in yet, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, do you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's how I can't remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 13th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Peratory, for that. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and my auntie says that he would have gone to jail, but it ended up, and they ended up with he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him but he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell him about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept going down the stairs when I was polishing the stairs and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? [A 03:38]: Yes. [B 03:39]: Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: Yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said taking away her kind of control, so that she had schizophrenia. So that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting junk in the hang, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, caring. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the day that I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:08]: I was 13. Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff public park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie and I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was me to polish 20 pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well. But he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now. But at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978. The placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel. And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my gran, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. I don't think it was a good time I had done that, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did this— how did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them, the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lassies had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. [B 31:48]: Yeah, so what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so they were— we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine. Don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back. I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of night, you know what I mean? [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of getting— going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. then it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: Oh, I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away, plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about them doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? Uh-huh. [A 40:05]: I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was the night, and it was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh, to polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually. Patrick had his part because I stayed there and went out to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhouse. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:28]: I went to school there, I know. I think, I don't know, I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: The Balmer, whatever you call it. [B 43:46]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet kit knocked when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said, what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we actually had her back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based at Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: Mr. Air. We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah. And was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah. I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one him. None of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got in trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I'd stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye! It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, um, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— yeah. [B 54:27]: Was, um, there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was the teacher, was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. Yeah. Oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. Yeah, even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something. I think, eh, Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Turkey, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty, nuts. [B 69:05]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to 1. [A 69:15]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from here, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that took me go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:28]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me, or I would annoy her, and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? Okay. No, no, no problem. [A 74:50]: No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, no, I don't think so. The headmaster was— he was really good to me, man. I didn't want to get sent to him. Yeah, it was— it wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him, because I knew he'd be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would willingly take it because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I come back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back in the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that was just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept telling them to shut the door and then I asked them if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I wouldn't enter the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was awful. 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. [A 90:14]: Sorry, I knew my mum was no well and that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away and had to get the police. [B 91:32]: They get the police to bring you back. [A 91:34]: Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel, She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up, I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, going up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other, the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at that point. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 10th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And they says, oh, you can't go, you're not allowed to do that, that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Has him like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that, but I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her. Which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him but he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. Yes, yes. [A 106:44]: Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? [A 03:38]: Yes. [B 03:39]: Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: Yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said taking away her kind of control, so that she had schizophrenia. So that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting junk in the hang, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, caring. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the day that I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:08]: I was 13. Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff public park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie and I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was me to polish 20 pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well. But he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now. But at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978. The placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel. And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my gran, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. I don't think it was a good time I had done that, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did this— how did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them, the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lassies had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. [B 31:48]: Yeah, so what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so they were— we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine. Don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back. I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of night, you know what I mean? [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of getting— going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. then it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: Oh, I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away, plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about them doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? Uh-huh. [A 40:05]: I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was the night, and it was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh, to polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually. Patrick had his part because I stayed there and went out to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhouse. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:28]: I went to school there, I know. I think, I don't know, I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: The Balmer, whatever you call it. [B 43:46]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet kit knocked when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said, what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we actually had her back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based at Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: Mr. Air. We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah. And was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah. I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one him. None of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got in trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I'd stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye! It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, um, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— yeah. [B 54:27]: Was, um, there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was the teacher, was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. Yeah. Oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. Yeah, even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something. I think, eh, Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Turkey, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty, nuts. [B 69:05]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to 1. [A 69:15]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from here, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that took me go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:28]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me, or I would annoy her, and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? Okay. No, no, no problem. [A 74:50]: No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, no, I don't think so. The headmaster was— he was really good to me, man. I didn't want to get sent to him. Yeah, it was— it wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him, because I knew he'd be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would willingly take it because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I come back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back in the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that was just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept telling them to shut the door and then I asked them if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I wouldn't enter the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was awful. 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. [A 90:14]: Sorry, I knew my mum was no well and that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away and had to get the police. [B 91:32]: They get the police to bring you back. [A 91:34]: Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel, She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up, I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, going up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other, the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at that point. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 10th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And they says, oh, you can't go, you're not allowed to do that, that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Has him like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that, but I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her. Which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him but he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. Yes, yes. [A 106:44]: Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? [A 03:38]: Yes. [B 03:39]: Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: Yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said taking away her kind of control, so that she had schizophrenia. So that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting junk in the hang, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, caring. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the day that I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:08]: I was 13. Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff public park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie and I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was me to polish 20 pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well. But he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now. But at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978. The placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel. And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my gran, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. I don't think it was a good time I had done that, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did this— how did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them, the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lassies had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. [B 31:48]: Yeah, so what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so they were— we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine. Don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back. I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of night, you know what I mean? [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of getting— going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. then it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: Oh, I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away, plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about them doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? Uh-huh. [A 40:05]: I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was the night, and it was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh, to polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually. Patrick had his part because I stayed there and went out to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhouse. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:28]: I went to school there, I know. I think, I don't know, I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: The Balmer, whatever you call it. [B 43:46]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet kit knocked when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said, what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we actually had her back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based at Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: Mr. Air. We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah. And was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah. I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one him. None of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got in trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I'd stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye! It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, um, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— yeah. [B 54:27]: Was, um, there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was the teacher, was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. Yeah. Oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. Yeah, even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something. I think, eh, Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Turkey, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty, nuts. [B 69:05]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to 1. [A 69:15]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from here, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that took me go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:28]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me, or I would annoy her, and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? Okay. No, no, no problem. [A 74:50]: No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, no, I don't think so. The headmaster was— he was really good to me, man. I didn't want to get sent to him. Yeah, it was— it wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him, because I knew he'd be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would willingly take it because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I come back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back in the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that was just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept telling them to shut the door and then I asked them if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I wouldn't enter the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was awful. 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. [A 90:14]: Sorry, I knew my mum was no well and that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away and had to get the police. [B 91:32]: They get the police to bring you back. [A 91:34]: Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel, She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up, I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, going up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other, the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at that point. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 10th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And they says, oh, you can't go, you're not allowed to do that, that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Has him like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that, but I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her. Which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him but he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. Yes, yes. [A 106:44]: Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? [A 03:38]: Yes. [B 03:39]: Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: Yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said taking away her kind of control, so that she had schizophrenia. So that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting junk in the hang, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, caring. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the day that I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:08]: I was 13. Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff public park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie and I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was me to polish 20 pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well. But he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now. But at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978. The placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel. And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my gran, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. I don't think it was a good time I had done that, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did this— how did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them, the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lassies had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. [B 31:48]: Yeah, so what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so they were— we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine. Don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back. I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of night, you know what I mean? [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of getting— going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. then it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: Oh, I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away, plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about them doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? Uh-huh. [A 40:05]: I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was the night, and it was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh, to polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually. Patrick had his part because I stayed there and went out to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhouse. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:28]: I went to school there, I know. I think, I don't know, I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: The Balmer, whatever you call it. [B 43:46]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet kit knocked when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said, what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we actually had her back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based at Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: Mr. Air. We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah. And was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah. I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one him. None of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got in trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I'd stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye! It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, um, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— yeah. [B 54:27]: Was, um, there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was the teacher, was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. Yeah. Oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. Yeah, even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something. I think, eh, Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Turkey, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty, nuts. [B 69:05]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to 1. [A 69:15]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from here, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that took me go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:28]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me, or I would annoy her, and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? Okay. No, no, no problem. [A 74:50]: No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, no, I don't think so. The headmaster was— he was really good to me, man. I didn't want to get sent to him. Yeah, it was— it wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him, because I knew he'd be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would willingly take it because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I come back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back in the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that was just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept telling them to shut the door and then I asked them if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I wouldn't enter the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was awful. 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. [A 90:14]: Sorry, I knew my mum was no well and that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away and had to get the police. [B 91:32]: They get the police to bring you back. [A 91:34]: Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel, She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up, I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, going up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other, the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at that point. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 10th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And they says, oh, you can't go, you're not allowed to do that, that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Has him like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that, but I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her. Which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him but he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. Yes, yes. [A 106:44]: Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? [A 03:38]: Yes. [B 03:39]: Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: Yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said taking away her kind of control, so that she had schizophrenia. So that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting junk in the hang, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, caring. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the day that I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:08]: I was 13. Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff public park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie and I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was me to polish 20 pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well. But he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now. But at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978. The placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel. And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my gran, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. I don't think it was a good time I had done that, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did this— how did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them, the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lassies had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. [B 31:48]: Yeah, so what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so they were— we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine. Don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back. I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of night, you know what I mean? [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of getting— going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. then it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: Oh, I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away, plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about them doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? Uh-huh. [A 40:05]: I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was the night, and it was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh, to polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually. Patrick had his part because I stayed there and went out to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhouse. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:28]: I went to school there, I know. I think, I don't know, I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: The Balmer, whatever you call it. [B 43:46]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet kit knocked when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said, what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we actually had her back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based at Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: Mr. Air. We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah. And was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah. I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one him. None of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got in trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I'd stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye! It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, um, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— yeah. [B 54:27]: Was, um, there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was the teacher, was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. Yeah. Oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. Yeah, even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something. I think, eh, Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Turkey, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty, nuts. [B 69:05]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to 1. [A 69:15]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from here, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that took me go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:28]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me, or I would annoy her, and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? Okay. No, no, no problem. [A 74:50]: No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, no, I don't think so. The headmaster was— he was really good to me, man. I didn't want to get sent to him. Yeah, it was— it wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him, because I knew he'd be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would willingly take it because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I come back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back in the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that was just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept telling them to shut the door and then I asked them if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I wouldn't enter the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was awful. 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. [A 90:14]: Sorry, I knew my mum was no well and that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away and had to get the police. [B 91:32]: They get the police to bring you back. [A 91:34]: Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel, She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up, I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, going up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other, the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at that point. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 10th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And they says, oh, you can't go, you're not allowed to do that, that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Has him like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that, but I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her. Which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him but he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. Yes, yes. [A 106:44]: Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? [A 03:38]: Yes. [B 03:39]: Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: Yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said taking away her kind of control, so that she had schizophrenia. So that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting junk in the hang, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, caring. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the day that I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:08]: I was 13. Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff public park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie and I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was me to polish 20 pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well. But he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now. But at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978. The placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel. And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my gran, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. I don't think it was a good time I had done that, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did this— how did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them, the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lassies had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. [B 31:48]: Yeah, so what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so they were— we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine. Don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back. I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of night, you know what I mean? [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of getting— going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. then it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: Oh, I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away, plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about them doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? Uh-huh. [A 40:05]: I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was the night, and it was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh, to polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually. Patrick had his part because I stayed there and went out to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhouse. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:28]: I went to school there, I know. I think, I don't know, I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: The Balmer, whatever you call it. [B 43:46]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet kit knocked when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said, what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we actually had her back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based at Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: Mr. Air. We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah. And was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah. I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one him. None of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got in trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I'd stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye! It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, um, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— yeah. [B 54:27]: Was, um, there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was the teacher, was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. Yeah. Oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. Yeah, even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something. I think, eh, Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Turkey, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty, nuts. [B 69:05]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to 1. [A 69:15]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from here, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that took me go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:28]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me, or I would annoy her, and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? Okay. No, no, no problem. [A 74:50]: No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, no, I don't think so. The headmaster was— he was really good to me, man. I didn't want to get sent to him. Yeah, it was— it wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him, because I knew he'd be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would willingly take it because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I come back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back in the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that was just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept telling them to shut the door and then I asked them if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I wouldn't enter the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was awful. 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. [A 90:14]: Sorry, I knew my mum was no well and that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away and had to get the police. [B 91:32]: They get the police to bring you back. [A 91:34]: Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel, She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up, I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, going up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other, the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at that point. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 10th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And they says, oh, you can't go, you're not allowed to do that, that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Has him like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that, but I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her. Which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him but he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. Yes, yes. [A 106:44]: Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? [A 03:38]: Yes. [B 03:39]: Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: Yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said taking away her kind of control, so that she had schizophrenia. So that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting junk in the hang, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, caring. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the day that I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:08]: I was 13. Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff public park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie and I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was me to polish 20 pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well. But he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now. But at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978. The placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel. And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my gran, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. I don't think it was a good time I had done that, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did this— how did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them, the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lassies had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. [B 31:48]: Yeah, so what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so they were— we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine. Don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back. I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of night, you know what I mean? [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of getting— going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. then it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: Oh, I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away, plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about them doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? Uh-huh. [A 40:05]: I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was the night, and it was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh, to polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually. Patrick had his part because I stayed there and went out to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhouse. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:28]: I went to school there, I know. I think, I don't know, I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: The Balmer, whatever you call it. [B 43:46]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet kit knocked when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said, what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we actually had her back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based at Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: Mr. Air. We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah. And was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah. I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one him. None of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got in trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I'd stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye! It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, um, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— yeah. [B 54:27]: Was, um, there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was the teacher, was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. Yeah. Oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. Yeah, even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something. I think, eh, Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Turkey, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty, nuts. [B 69:05]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to 1. [A 69:15]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from here, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that took me go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:28]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me, or I would annoy her, and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? Okay. No, no, no problem. [A 74:50]: No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, no, I don't think so. The headmaster was— he was really good to me, man. I didn't want to get sent to him. Yeah, it was— it wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him, because I knew he'd be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would willingly take it because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I come back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back in the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that was just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept telling them to shut the door and then I asked them if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I wouldn't enter the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was awful. 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. [A 90:14]: Sorry, I knew my mum was no well and that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away and had to get the police. [B 91:32]: They get the police to bring you back. [A 91:34]: Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel, She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up, I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, going up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other, the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at that point. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 10th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And they says, oh, you can't go, you're not allowed to do that, that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Has him like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that, but I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her. Which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him but he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. Yes, yes. [A 106:44]: Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMcCarroll@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? [A 03:38]: Yes. [B 03:39]: Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: Yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said taking away her kind of control, so that she had schizophrenia. So that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting junk in the hang, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, caring. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the day that I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:08]: I was 13. Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff public park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie and I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was me to polish 20 pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well. But he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now. But at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978. The placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel. And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my gran, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. I don't think it was a good time I had done that, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did this— how did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them, the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lassies had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. [B 31:48]: Yeah, so what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so they were— we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine. Don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back. I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of night, you know what I mean? [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of getting— going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. then it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: Oh, I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away, plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about them doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? Uh-huh. [A 40:05]: I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was the night, and it was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh, to polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually. Patrick had his part because I stayed there and went out to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhouse. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:28]: I went to school there, I know. I think, I don't know, I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: The Balmer, whatever you call it. [B 43:46]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet kit knocked when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said, what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we actually had her back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based at Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: Mr. Air. We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah. And was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah. I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one him. None of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got in trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I'd stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye! It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, um, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— yeah. [B 54:27]: Was, um, there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was the teacher, was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. Yeah. Oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. Yeah, even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something. I think, eh, Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Turkey, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty, nuts. [B 69:05]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to 1. [A 69:15]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from here, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that took me go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:28]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me, or I would annoy her, and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? Okay. No, no, no problem. [A 74:50]: No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, no, I don't think so. The headmaster was— he was really good to me, man. I didn't want to get sent to him. Yeah, it was— it wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him, because I knew he'd be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would willingly take it because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I come back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back in the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think they were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that was just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept telling them to shut the door and then I asked them if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I wouldn't enter the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was awful. 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. [A 90:14]: Sorry, I knew my mum was no well and that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away and had to get the police. [B 91:32]: They get the police to bring you back. [A 91:34]: Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel, She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up, I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, going up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other, the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at that point. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 10th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And they says, oh, you can't go, you're not allowed to do that, that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Has him like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that, but I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her. Which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him but he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. Yes, yes. [A 106:44]: Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMacArdle@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. 1 being opening and consent, 2 being your personal background and entry into care, 3 is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? [A 03:38]: Yes. [B 03:39]: Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly. Before we move on, we'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like, you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said they could have a wee account of control. So that she had schizophrenia. So that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well, nor that, all that, caring. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:09]: 13, oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie, and I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 10:57]: But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course, we'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, we'll try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for? It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel. And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just, I think they had me out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— was the, um, what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, there was different clothes. I had people that had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my granny, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That tends to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and the abattoir, he says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to the other friends. [B 28:03]: So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so they were— we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of night, you know what I mean? [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. Yeah, okay, that's fine. Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away, plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, that is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? Yes, that's correct. That's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so it'll be the same questions what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? [A 43:21]: But that name is that institution For Balmer Craig School. I went to school there, I know. I think, I don't know, I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: The Balmer, whatever you call it. [B 43:46]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell. Yeah, I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school. [A 46:16]: Aye. [B 46:19]: And how long was you there, Father? Either— [A 46:21]: I was in there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast, and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we actually had her back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And, uh, but we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man hurt me, slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: Mr. Air. We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah. And was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah. I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got in trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me, you know what I mean, because I'd stuck up. They were all waiting for me at the train station, so I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:18]: Yeah, was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:37]: Oh, he slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years ago, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be actually was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum, my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know, but then, puttin' the clothes within ya spoilt ya, spoilt ya up. [B 58:41]: So, just to confirm, that was the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes, I'm trying to even remember their names, and I can't because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help? When? When the incident occurred. [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped him. I says, the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:41]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnah Craig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there, you know, other people had been worn. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. [B 70:20]: That was the thing. They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he'd be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. 1994. Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much as— but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:33]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I come back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think we were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're gonna stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: Oh, perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. [A 90:14]: Sorry, I knew my mum was no well and that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians and they were taking me to the church and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel, so the lady was said to take me to chapel She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill— you went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in yet, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly. [B 97:05]: That's fine. [A 97:12]: It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's how I can't remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on the 10th of June 1978, and it was until the 6th, uh, it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wasn't it, felt, you know what I mean? I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell him about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. Yes, yes. [A 106:44]: Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just— I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. I'll wait. [A 108:22]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMacArdle@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. 1 being opening and consent, 2 being your personal background and entry into care, 3 is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? [A 03:38]: Yes. [B 03:39]: Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly. Before we move on, we'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like, you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said they could have a wee account of control. So that she had schizophrenia. So that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well, nor that, all that, caring. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:09]: 13, oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie, and I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 10:57]: But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course, we'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, we'll try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for? It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel. And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just, I think they had me out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— was the, um, what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, there was different clothes. I had people that had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my granny, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That tends to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and the abattoir, he says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to the other friends. [B 28:03]: So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so they were— we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of night, you know what I mean? [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. Yeah, okay, that's fine. Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away, plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, that is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? Yes, that's correct. That's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so it'll be the same questions what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? [A 43:21]: But that name is that institution For Balmer Craig School. I went to school there, I know. I think, I don't know, I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: The Balmer, whatever you call it. [B 43:46]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell. Yeah, I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school. [A 46:16]: Aye. [B 46:19]: And how long was you there, Father? Either— [A 46:21]: I was in there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast, and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we actually had her back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And, uh, but we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man hurt me, slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: Mr. Air. We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah. And was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah. I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got in trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me, you know what I mean, because I'd stuck up. They were all waiting for me at the train station, so I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:18]: Yeah, was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:37]: Oh, he slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years ago, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be actually was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum, my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know, but then, puttin' the clothes within ya spoilt ya, spoilt ya up. [B 58:41]: So, just to confirm, that was the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes, I'm trying to even remember their names, and I can't because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help? When? When the incident occurred. [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped him. I says, the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:41]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnah Craig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there, you know, other people had been worn. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. [B 70:20]: That was the thing. They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he'd be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. 1994. Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much as— but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:33]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I come back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think we were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're gonna stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: Oh, perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. [A 90:14]: Sorry, I knew my mum was no well and that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians and they were taking me to the church and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel, so the lady was said to take me to chapel She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill— you went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in yet, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly. [B 97:05]: That's fine. [A 97:12]: It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's how I can't remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on the 10th of June 1978, and it was until the 6th, uh, it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wasn't it, felt, you know what I mean? I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell him about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. Yes, yes. [A 106:44]: Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just— I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. I'll wait. [A 108:22]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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Theresa?","start":563474,"end":565939,"confidence":0.8842724600000000378940967493690550327301025390625},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"B","text":"Yeah.","start":570040,"end":570088,"confidence":0.5491445999999999827423380338586866855621337890625},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"B","text":"And were you separated from any of them during your time in care?","start":570137,"end":573581,"confidence":0.821921169999999978728055793908424675464630126953125},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"A","text":"I was away for them all, aye.","start":577213,"end":579446,"confidence":0.61628680000000002348059524592827074229717254638671875},{"sentiment":"NEGATIVE","speaker":"A","text":"I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well.","start":586370,"end":597011,"confidence":0.53238339999999995111323869423358701169490814208984375},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"B","text":"Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMacArdle@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. 1 being opening and consent, 2 being your personal background and entry into care, 3 is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? [A 03:38]: Yes. [B 03:39]: Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly. Before we move on, we'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like, you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said they could have a wee account of control. So that she had schizophrenia. So that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well, nor that, all that, caring. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:09]: 13, oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie, and I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 10:57]: But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course, we'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, we'll try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for? It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel. And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just, I think they had me out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— was the, um, what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, there was different clothes. I had people that had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my granny, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That tends to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and the abattoir, he says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to the other friends. [B 28:03]: So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so they were— we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of night, you know what I mean? [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. Yeah, okay, that's fine. Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away, plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, that is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? Yes, that's correct. That's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so it'll be the same questions what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? [A 43:21]: But that name is that institution For Balmer Craig School. I went to school there, I know. I think, I don't know, I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: The Balmer, whatever you call it. [B 43:46]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell. Yeah, I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school. [A 46:16]: Aye. [B 46:19]: And how long was you there, Father? Either— [A 46:21]: I was in there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast, and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we actually had her back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And, uh, but we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man hurt me, slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: Mr. Air. We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah. And was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah. I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got in trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me, you know what I mean, because I'd stuck up. They were all waiting for me at the train station, so I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:18]: Yeah, was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:37]: Oh, he slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years ago, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be actually was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum, my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know, but then, puttin' the clothes within ya spoilt ya, spoilt ya up. [B 58:41]: So, just to confirm, that was the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes, I'm trying to even remember their names, and I can't because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help? When? When the incident occurred. [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped him. I says, the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:41]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnah Craig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there, you know, other people had been worn. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. [B 70:20]: That was the thing. They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he'd be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. 1994. Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much as— but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:33]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I come back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think we were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're gonna stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: Oh, perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. [A 90:14]: Sorry, I knew my mum was no well and that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians and they were taking me to the church and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel, so the lady was said to take me to chapel She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill— you went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in yet, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly. [B 97:05]: That's fine. [A 97:12]: It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's how I can't remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on the 10th of June 1978, and it was until the 6th, uh, it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wasn't it, felt, you know what I mean? I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell him about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. Yes, yes. [A 106:44]: Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just— I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. I'll wait. [A 108:22]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMacArdle@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. 1 being opening and consent, 2 being your personal background and entry into care, 3 is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? [A 03:38]: Yes. [B 03:39]: Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly. Before we move on, we'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like, you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said they could have a wee account of control. So that she had schizophrenia. So that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well, nor that, all that, caring. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:09]: 13, oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie, and I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 10:57]: But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course, we'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, we'll try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for? It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel. And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just, I think they had me out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— was the, um, what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, there was different clothes. I had people that had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my granny, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That tends to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and the abattoir, he says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to the other friends. [B 28:03]: So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so they were— we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of night, you know what I mean? [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. Yeah, okay, that's fine. Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away, plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, that is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? Yes, that's correct. That's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so it'll be the same questions what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? [A 43:21]: But that name is that institution For Balmer Craig School. I went to school there, I know. I think, I don't know, I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: The Balmer, whatever you call it. [B 43:46]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell. Yeah, I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school. [A 46:16]: Aye. [B 46:19]: And how long was you there, Father? Either— [A 46:21]: I was in there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast, and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we actually had her back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And, uh, but we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man hurt me, slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: Mr. Air. We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah. And was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah. I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got in trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me, you know what I mean, because I'd stuck up. They were all waiting for me at the train station, so I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:18]: Yeah, was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:37]: Oh, he slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years ago, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be actually was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum, my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know, but then, puttin' the clothes within ya spoilt ya, spoilt ya up. [B 58:41]: So, just to confirm, that was the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes, I'm trying to even remember their names, and I can't because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help? When? When the incident occurred. [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped him. I says, the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:41]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnah Craig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there, you know, other people had been worn. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. [B 70:20]: That was the thing. They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he'd be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. 1994. Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much as— but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:33]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I come back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think we were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're gonna stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: Oh, perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. [A 90:14]: Sorry, I knew my mum was no well and that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians and they were taking me to the church and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel, so the lady was said to take me to chapel She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill— you went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in yet, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly. [B 97:05]: That's fine. [A 97:12]: It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's how I can't remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on the 10th of June 1978, and it was until the 6th, uh, it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wasn't it, felt, you know what I mean? I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell him about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. Yes, yes. [A 106:44]: Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just— I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. I'll wait. [A 108:22]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMacArdle@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. 1 being opening and consent, 2 being your personal background and entry into care, 3 is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? [A 03:38]: Yes. [B 03:39]: Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly. Before we move on, we'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like, you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said they could have a wee account of control. So that she had schizophrenia. So that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well, nor that, all that, caring. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:09]: 13, oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie, and I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 10:57]: But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course, we'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, we'll try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for? It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel. And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just, I think they had me out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— was the, um, what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, there was different clothes. I had people that had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my granny, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That tends to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and the abattoir, he says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to the other friends. [B 28:03]: So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so they were— we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of night, you know what I mean? [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. Yeah, okay, that's fine. Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away, plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, that is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? Yes, that's correct. That's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so it'll be the same questions what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? [A 43:21]: But that name is that institution For Balmer Craig School. I went to school there, I know. I think, I don't know, I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: The Balmer, whatever you call it. [B 43:46]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell. Yeah, I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school. [A 46:16]: Aye. [B 46:19]: And how long was you there, Father? Either— [A 46:21]: I was in there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast, and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we actually had her back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And, uh, but we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man hurt me, slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: Mr. Air. We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah. And was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah. I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got in trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me, you know what I mean, because I'd stuck up. They were all waiting for me at the train station, so I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:18]: Yeah, was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:37]: Oh, he slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years ago, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be actually was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum, my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know, but then, puttin' the clothes within ya spoilt ya, spoilt ya up. [B 58:41]: So, just to confirm, that was the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes, I'm trying to even remember their names, and I can't because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help? When? When the incident occurred. [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped him. I says, the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:41]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnah Craig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there, you know, other people had been worn. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. [B 70:20]: That was the thing. They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he'd be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. 1994. Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much as— but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:33]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I come back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think we were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're gonna stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: Oh, perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. [A 90:14]: Sorry, I knew my mum was no well and that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians and they were taking me to the church and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel, so the lady was said to take me to chapel She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill— you went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in yet, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly. [B 97:05]: That's fine. [A 97:12]: It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's how I can't remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on the 10th of June 1978, and it was until the 6th, uh, it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wasn't it, felt, you know what I mean? I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell him about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. Yes, yes. [A 106:44]: Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just— I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. I'll wait. [A 108:22]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMacArdle@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. 1 being opening and consent, 2 being your personal background and entry into care, 3 is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? [A 03:38]: Yes. [B 03:39]: Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly. Before we move on, we'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like, you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said they could have a wee account of control. So that she had schizophrenia. So that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well, nor that, all that, caring. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:09]: 13, oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie, and I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 10:57]: But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course, we'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, we'll try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for? It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel. And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just, I think they had me out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— was the, um, what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, there was different clothes. I had people that had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my granny, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That tends to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and the abattoir, he says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to the other friends. [B 28:03]: So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so they were— we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of night, you know what I mean? [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. Yeah, okay, that's fine. Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away, plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, that is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? Yes, that's correct. That's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so it'll be the same questions what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? [A 43:21]: But that name is that institution For Balmer Craig School. I went to school there, I know. I think, I don't know, I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: The Balmer, whatever you call it. [B 43:46]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell. Yeah, I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school. [A 46:16]: Aye. [B 46:19]: And how long was you there, Father? Either— [A 46:21]: I was in there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast, and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we actually had her back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And, uh, but we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man hurt me, slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: Mr. Air. We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah. And was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah. I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got in trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me, you know what I mean, because I'd stuck up. They were all waiting for me at the train station, so I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:18]: Yeah, was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:37]: Oh, he slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years ago, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be actually was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum, my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know, but then, puttin' the clothes within ya spoilt ya, spoilt ya up. [B 58:41]: So, just to confirm, that was the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes, I'm trying to even remember their names, and I can't because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help? When? When the incident occurred. [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped him. I says, the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:41]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnah Craig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there, you know, other people had been worn. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. [B 70:20]: That was the thing. They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he'd be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. 1994. Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much as— but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:33]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I come back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think we were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're gonna stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: Oh, perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. [A 90:14]: Sorry, I knew my mum was no well and that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians and they were taking me to the church and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel, so the lady was said to take me to chapel She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill— you went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in yet, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly. [B 97:05]: That's fine. [A 97:12]: It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's how I can't remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on the 10th of June 1978, and it was until the 6th, uh, it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wasn't it, felt, you know what I mean? I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell him about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. Yes, yes. [A 106:44]: Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just— I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. I'll wait. [A 108:22]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMacArdle@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. 1 being opening and consent, 2 being your personal background and entry into care, 3 is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? [A 03:38]: Yes. [B 03:39]: Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly. Before we move on, we'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like, you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said they could have a wee account of control. So that she had schizophrenia. So that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well, nor that, all that, caring. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:09]: 13, oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie, and I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 10:57]: But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course, we'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, we'll try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for? It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel. And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just, I think they had me out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— was the, um, what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, there was different clothes. I had people that had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my granny, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That tends to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and the abattoir, he says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to the other friends. [B 28:03]: So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so they were— we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of night, you know what I mean? [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. Yeah, okay, that's fine. Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away, plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, that is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? Yes, that's correct. That's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so it'll be the same questions what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? [A 43:21]: But that name is that institution For Balmer Craig School. I went to school there, I know. I think, I don't know, I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: The Balmer, whatever you call it. [B 43:46]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell. Yeah, I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school. [A 46:16]: Aye. [B 46:19]: And how long was you there, Father? Either— [A 46:21]: I was in there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast, and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we actually had her back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And, uh, but we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man hurt me, slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: Mr. Air. We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah. And was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah. I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got in trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me, you know what I mean, because I'd stuck up. They were all waiting for me at the train station, so I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:18]: Yeah, was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:37]: Oh, he slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years ago, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be actually was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum, my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know, but then, puttin' the clothes within ya spoilt ya, spoilt ya up. [B 58:41]: So, just to confirm, that was the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes, I'm trying to even remember their names, and I can't because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help? When? When the incident occurred. [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped him. I says, the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:41]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnah Craig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there, you know, other people had been worn. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. [B 70:20]: That was the thing. They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he'd be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. 1994. Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much as— but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:33]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I come back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think we were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're gonna stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: Oh, perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. [A 90:14]: Sorry, I knew my mum was no well and that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians and they were taking me to the church and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel, so the lady was said to take me to chapel She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill— you went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in yet, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly. [B 97:05]: That's fine. [A 97:12]: It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's how I can't remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on the 10th of June 1978, and it was until the 6th, uh, it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wasn't it, felt, you know what I mean? I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell him about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. Yes, yes. [A 106:44]: Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just— I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. I'll wait. [A 108:22]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMacArdle@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. 1 being opening and consent, 2 being your personal background and entry into care, 3 is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? [A 03:38]: Yes. [B 03:39]: Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly. Before we move on, we'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like, you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said they could have a wee account of control. So that she had schizophrenia. So that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well, nor that, all that, caring. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:09]: 13, oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie, and I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 10:57]: But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course, we'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, we'll try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for? It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel. And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just, I think they had me out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— was the, um, what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, there was different clothes. I had people that had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my granny, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That tends to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and the abattoir, he says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to the other friends. [B 28:03]: So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so they were— we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of night, you know what I mean? [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. Yeah, okay, that's fine. Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away, plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, that is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? Yes, that's correct. That's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so it'll be the same questions what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? [A 43:21]: But that name is that institution For Balmer Craig School. I went to school there, I know. I think, I don't know, I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: The Balmer, whatever you call it. [B 43:46]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell. Yeah, I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school. [A 46:16]: Aye. [B 46:19]: And how long was you there, Father? Either— [A 46:21]: I was in there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast, and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we actually had her back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And, uh, but we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man hurt me, slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: Mr. Air. We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah. And was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah. I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got in trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me, you know what I mean, because I'd stuck up. They were all waiting for me at the train station, so I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:18]: Yeah, was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:37]: Oh, he slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years ago, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be actually was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum, my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know, but then, puttin' the clothes within ya spoilt ya, spoilt ya up. [B 58:41]: So, just to confirm, that was the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes, I'm trying to even remember their names, and I can't because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help? When? When the incident occurred. [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped him. I says, the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:41]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnah Craig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there, you know, other people had been worn. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. [B 70:20]: That was the thing. They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he'd be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. 1994. Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much as— but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:33]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I come back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think we were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're gonna stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: Oh, perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. [A 90:14]: Sorry, I knew my mum was no well and that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians and they were taking me to the church and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel, so the lady was said to take me to chapel She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill— you went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in yet, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly. [B 97:05]: That's fine. [A 97:12]: It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's how I can't remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on the 10th of June 1978, and it was until the 6th, uh, it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wasn't it, felt, you know what I mean? I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell him about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. Yes, yes. [A 106:44]: Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just— I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. I'll wait. [A 108:22]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMacArdle@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. 1 being opening and consent, 2 being your personal background and entry into care, 3 is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? [A 03:38]: Yes. [B 03:39]: Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly. Before we move on, we'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like, you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said they could have a wee account of control. So that she had schizophrenia. So that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well, nor that, all that, caring. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:09]: 13, oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie, and I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 10:57]: But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course, we'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, we'll try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for? It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel. And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just, I think they had me out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— was the, um, what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, there was different clothes. I had people that had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my granny, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That tends to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and the abattoir, he says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to the other friends. [B 28:03]: So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so they were— we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of night, you know what I mean? [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. Yeah, okay, that's fine. Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away, plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, that is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? Yes, that's correct. That's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so it'll be the same questions what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? [A 43:21]: But that name is that institution For Balmer Craig School. I went to school there, I know. I think, I don't know, I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: The Balmer, whatever you call it. [B 43:46]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell. Yeah, I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school. [A 46:16]: Aye. [B 46:19]: And how long was you there, Father? Either— [A 46:21]: I was in there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast, and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we actually had her back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And, uh, but we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man hurt me, slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: Mr. Air. We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah. And was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah. I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got in trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me, you know what I mean, because I'd stuck up. They were all waiting for me at the train station, so I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:18]: Yeah, was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:37]: Oh, he slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years ago, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be actually was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum, my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know, but then, puttin' the clothes within ya spoilt ya, spoilt ya up. [B 58:41]: So, just to confirm, that was the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes, I'm trying to even remember their names, and I can't because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help? When? When the incident occurred. [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped him. I says, the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:41]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnah Craig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there, you know, other people had been worn. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. [B 70:20]: That was the thing. They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he'd be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. 1994. Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much as— but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:33]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I come back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think we were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're gonna stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: Oh, perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. [A 90:14]: Sorry, I knew my mum was no well and that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians and they were taking me to the church and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel, so the lady was said to take me to chapel She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill— you went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in yet, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly. [B 97:05]: That's fine. [A 97:12]: It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's how I can't remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on the 10th of June 1978, and it was until the 6th, uh, it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wasn't it, felt, you know what I mean? I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell him about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. Yes, yes. [A 106:44]: Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just— I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. I'll wait. [A 108:22]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMacArdle@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. 1 being opening and consent, 2 being your personal background and entry into care, 3 is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? [A 03:38]: Yes. [B 03:39]: Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly. Before we move on, we'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like, you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said they could have a wee account of control. So that she had schizophrenia. So that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well, nor that, all that, caring. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:09]: 13, oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie, and I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 10:57]: But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course, we'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, we'll try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for? It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel. And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just, I think they had me out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— was the, um, what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, there was different clothes. I had people that had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my granny, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That tends to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and the abattoir, he says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to the other friends. [B 28:03]: So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so they were— we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of night, you know what I mean? [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. Yeah, okay, that's fine. Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away, plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, that is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? Yes, that's correct. That's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so it'll be the same questions what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? [A 43:21]: But that name is that institution For Balmer Craig School. I went to school there, I know. I think, I don't know, I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: The Balmer, whatever you call it. [B 43:46]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell. Yeah, I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school. [A 46:16]: Aye. [B 46:19]: And how long was you there, Father? Either— [A 46:21]: I was in there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast, and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we actually had her back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And, uh, but we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man hurt me, slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: Mr. Air. We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah. And was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah. I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got in trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me, you know what I mean, because I'd stuck up. They were all waiting for me at the train station, so I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:18]: Yeah, was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:37]: Oh, he slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years ago, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be actually was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum, my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know, but then, puttin' the clothes within ya spoilt ya, spoilt ya up. [B 58:41]: So, just to confirm, that was the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes, I'm trying to even remember their names, and I can't because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help? When? When the incident occurred. [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped him. I says, the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:41]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnah Craig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there, you know, other people had been worn. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. [B 70:20]: That was the thing. They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he'd be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. 1994. Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much as— but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:33]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I come back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think we were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're gonna stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: Oh, perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. [A 90:14]: Sorry, I knew my mum was no well and that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians and they were taking me to the church and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel, so the lady was said to take me to chapel She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill— you went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in yet, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly. [B 97:05]: That's fine. [A 97:12]: It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's how I can't remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on the 10th of June 1978, and it was until the 6th, uh, it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wasn't it, felt, you know what I mean? I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell him about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. Yes, yes. [A 106:44]: Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just— I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. I'll wait. [A 108:22]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMacArdle@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. 1 being opening and consent, 2 being your personal background and entry into care, 3 is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? [A 03:38]: Yes. [B 03:39]: Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly. Before we move on, we'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like, you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said they could have a wee account of control. So that she had schizophrenia. So that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well, nor that, all that, caring. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:09]: 13, oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie, and I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 10:57]: But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course, we'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, we'll try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for? It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel. And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just, I think they had me out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— was the, um, what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, there was different clothes. I had people that had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my granny, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That tends to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and the abattoir, he says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to the other friends. [B 28:03]: So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so they were— we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of night, you know what I mean? [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. Yeah, okay, that's fine. Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away, plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, that is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? Yes, that's correct. That's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so it'll be the same questions what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? [A 43:21]: But that name is that institution For Balmer Craig School. I went to school there, I know. I think, I don't know, I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: The Balmer, whatever you call it. [B 43:46]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell. Yeah, I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school. [A 46:16]: Aye. [B 46:19]: And how long was you there, Father? Either— [A 46:21]: I was in there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast, and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we actually had her back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And, uh, but we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man hurt me, slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: Mr. Air. We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah. And was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah. I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got in trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me, you know what I mean, because I'd stuck up. They were all waiting for me at the train station, so I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:18]: Yeah, was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:37]: Oh, he slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years ago, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be actually was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum, my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know, but then, puttin' the clothes within ya spoilt ya, spoilt ya up. [B 58:41]: So, just to confirm, that was the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes, I'm trying to even remember their names, and I can't because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help? When? When the incident occurred. [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped him. I says, the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:41]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnah Craig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there, you know, other people had been worn. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. [B 70:20]: That was the thing. They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he'd be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. 1994. Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much as— but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:33]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I come back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think we were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're gonna stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: Oh, perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. [A 90:14]: Sorry, I knew my mum was no well and that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians and they were taking me to the church and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel, so the lady was said to take me to chapel She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill— you went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in yet, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly. [B 97:05]: That's fine. [A 97:12]: It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's how I can't remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on the 10th of June 1978, and it was until the 6th, uh, it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wasn't it, felt, you know what I mean? I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell him about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. Yes, yes. [A 106:44]: Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just— I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. I'll wait. [A 108:22]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMacArdle@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. 1 being opening and consent, 2 being your personal background and entry into care, 3 is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? [A 03:38]: Yes. [B 03:39]: Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly. Before we move on, we'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like, you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said they could have a wee account of control. So that she had schizophrenia. So that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well, nor that, all that, caring. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:09]: 13, oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie, and I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 10:57]: But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course, we'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, we'll try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Fair. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse bit there. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for? It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel. And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just, I think they had me out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— was the, um, what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, there was different clothes. I had people that had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my granny, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That tends to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and the abattoir, he says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to the other friends. [B 28:03]: So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so they were— we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of night, you know what I mean? [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. Yeah, okay, that's fine. Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away, plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, that is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? Yes, that's correct. That's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so it'll be the same questions what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? [A 43:21]: But that name is that institution For Balmer Craig School. I went to school there, I know. I think, I don't know, I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: The Balmer, whatever you call it. [B 43:46]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell. Yeah, I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school. [A 46:16]: Aye. [B 46:19]: And how long was you there, Father? Either— [A 46:21]: I was in there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast, and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we actually had her back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And, uh, but we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based in Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man hurt me, slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: Mr. Air. We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah. And was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah. I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got in trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me, you know what I mean, because I'd stuck up. They were all waiting for me at the train station, so I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:18]: Yeah, was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:37]: Oh, he slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years ago, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be actually was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum, my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know, but then, puttin' the clothes within ya spoilt ya, spoilt ya up. [B 58:41]: So, just to confirm, that was the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes, I'm trying to even remember their names, and I can't because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help? When? When the incident occurred. [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped him. I says, the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balnacraig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:41]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnah Craig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there, you know, other people had been worn. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. [B 70:20]: That was the thing. They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he'd be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. 1994. Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much as— but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:33]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I come back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think we were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're gonna stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: Oh, perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. [A 90:14]: Sorry, I knew my mum was no well and that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians and they were taking me to the church and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel, so the lady was said to take me to chapel She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill— you went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in yet, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly. [B 97:05]: That's fine. [A 97:12]: It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's how I can't remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on the 10th of June 1978, and it was until the 6th, uh, it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even mind that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wasn't it, felt, you know what I mean? I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell him about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. Yes, yes. [A 106:44]: Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just— I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. I'll wait. [A 108:22]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false) #16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob)) #17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob)) #18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob)) #20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array) #21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire() #22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default') #26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle() #27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}() #28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure)) #29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure)) #30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL) #31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array) #32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput)) #40 {main} [previous exception] [object] (PDOException(code: 22001): SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php:609) [stacktrace] #0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(609): PDOStatement->execute() #1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(827): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->{closure:Illuminate\\Database\\Connection::affectingStatement():597}('update `synapse...', Array) #2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure)) #3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure)) #4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array) #5 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/home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob)) #16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false) #18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob)) #19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob)) #20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob)) #22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array) #23 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Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/8/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMacArdle@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge— I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution— and movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly. Before we move on, we'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like, you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, isn't it? [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said taking away her kind of control, so that she had schizophrenia. So that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, you know. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilcise. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the day that I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:08]: I was 13. Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff public park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie, and I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was me to polish 20 pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Perth. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse wee Perth place. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I've been at school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for? It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem. Where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae mem that one. I don't know if that was the one that I ran away from. I did run away from one of them because the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just, I think, they had me out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my granny, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my lasses had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of getting— going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. then it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this to this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:46]: Oh, I was distressed all the time with getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I can't tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, that is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually. Patrick had his part because I stayed there and went out to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnahcraig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? Yes, that's correct. That's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so it'll be the same questions what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? [A 43:21]: But that name is that institution For Balmer Craig School. I went to school there, I know. I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast, and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that, but she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me with extra hardbacks. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And, uh, but we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based at Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I get my da on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the headteacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I thought it was my birthday. That's Christmas. I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes, that was the one. [A 51:50]: I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I'd stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye! It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:22]: Yeah. Was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be actually abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. And looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was— the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have— who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hitched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balna Craig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:42]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsi. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't I? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something I think, eh, Miss Blonde, Miss Blunder, I think it was Miss Blunder. You'll have that name, social worker. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: I was placed in it, and they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up, open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? Which was How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? Okay. No, no, no problem. [A 74:50]: No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd stop fagging in again, he would give me a fag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away? Could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away and what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back in the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think we were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: It came— we ended up with nothing. They got us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I wouldn't enter the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You all right?' Then he gave me a fag and I was all right. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would I do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away and had to get the police. [B 91:32]: They get the police to bring you back. [A 91:34]: Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel, She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:08]: I don't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in yet, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly. [B 97:05]: That's fine. [A 97:12]: It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on the 10th of June 1978, and it was until the 6th, uh, it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even— that one, for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Peratory, for that. Actually, you know, there was more to that, with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and my auntie says that he would have gone to jail, but it ended up, and they ended up with he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— oh, the wee parrot, and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: The wee parrot, and it kept going down the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot, and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. Yes, yes. [A 106:44]: Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/8/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMacArdle@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge— I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution— and movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly. Before we move on, we'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like, you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, isn't it? [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said taking away her kind of control, so that she had schizophrenia. So that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, you know. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilcise. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the day that I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:08]: I was 13. Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff public park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie, and I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was me to polish 20 pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Perth. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse wee Perth place. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I've been at school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for? It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem. Where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae mem that one. I don't know if that was the one that I ran away from. I did run away from one of them because the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just, I think, they had me out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my granny, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my lasses had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of getting— going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. then it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this to this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:46]: Oh, I was distressed all the time with getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I can't tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, that is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually. Patrick had his part because I stayed there and went out to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnahcraig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? Yes, that's correct. That's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so it'll be the same questions what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? [A 43:21]: But that name is that institution For Balmer Craig School. I went to school there, I know. I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast, and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that, but she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me with extra hardbacks. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And, uh, but we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based at Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I get my da on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the headteacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I thought it was my birthday. That's Christmas. I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes, that was the one. [A 51:50]: I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I'd stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye! It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:22]: Yeah. Was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be actually abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. And looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was— the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have— who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hitched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balna Craig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:42]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsi. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't I? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something I think, eh, Miss Blonde, Miss Blunder, I think it was Miss Blunder. You'll have that name, social worker. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: I was placed in it, and they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up, open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? Which was How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? Okay. No, no, no problem. [A 74:50]: No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd stop fagging in again, he would give me a fag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away? Could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away and what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back in the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think we were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: It came— we ended up with nothing. They got us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I wouldn't enter the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You all right?' Then he gave me a fag and I was all right. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would I do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away and had to get the police. [B 91:32]: They get the police to bring you back. [A 91:34]: Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel, She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:08]: I don't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in yet, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly. [B 97:05]: That's fine. [A 97:12]: It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on the 10th of June 1978, and it was until the 6th, uh, it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even— that one, for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Peratory, for that. Actually, you know, there was more to that, with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and my auntie says that he would have gone to jail, but it ended up, and they ended up with he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— oh, the wee parrot, and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: The wee parrot, and it kept going down the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot, and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. Yes, yes. [A 106:44]: Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `sentiment_data` = [{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"A","text":"Hello?","start":1138,"end":1314,"confidence":0.643008800000000046992454372229985892772674560546875},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"B","text":"Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair?","start":2516,"end":4616,"confidence":0.8581052000000000123947074825991876423358917236328125},{"sentiment":"POSITIVE","speaker":"A","text":"Yes.","start":5145,"end":5418,"confidence":0.461038620000000010090701607623486779630184173583984375},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"B","text":"Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal.","start":5963,"end":8303,"confidence":0.916221399999999963625896270968951284885406494140625},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"B","text":"How are you today?","start":8367,"end":8848,"confidence":0.87185349999999994796695546028786338865756988525390625},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"B","text":"You 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Glen.","start":804870,"end":806770,"confidence":0.875427399999999966695440889452584087848663330078125},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"A","text":"Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends.","start":807624,"end":810087,"confidence":0.7803588500000000482970108350855298340320587158203125},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"A","text":"I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Perth.","start":811483,"end":821404,"confidence":0.9174835999999999547327433901955373585224151611328125},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"A","text":"I can't remember the name of that one.","start":822653,"end":824226,"confidence":0.69688969999999994531236779948812909424304962158203125},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"A","text":"I don't know, it was a Scouse wee Perth 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/8/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMacArdle@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge— I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution— and movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly. Before we move on, we'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like, you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, isn't it? [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said taking away her kind of control, so that she had schizophrenia. So that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, you know. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilcise. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the day that I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:08]: I was 13. Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff public park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie, and I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was me to polish 20 pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Perth. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse wee Perth place. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I've been at school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for? It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem. Where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae mem that one. I don't know if that was the one that I ran away from. I did run away from one of them because the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just, I think, they had me out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my granny, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my lasses had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of getting— going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. then it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this to this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:46]: Oh, I was distressed all the time with getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I can't tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, that is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually. Patrick had his part because I stayed there and went out to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnahcraig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? Yes, that's correct. That's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so it'll be the same questions what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? [A 43:21]: But that name is that institution For Balmer Craig School. I went to school there, I know. I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast, and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that, but she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me with extra hardbacks. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And, uh, but we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based at Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I get my da on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the headteacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I thought it was my birthday. That's Christmas. I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes, that was the one. [A 51:50]: I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I'd stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye! It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:22]: Yeah. Was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be actually abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. And looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was— the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have— who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hitched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balna Craig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:42]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsi. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't I? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something I think, eh, Miss Blonde, Miss Blunder, I think it was Miss Blunder. You'll have that name, social worker. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: I was placed in it, and they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up, open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? Which was How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? Okay. No, no, no problem. [A 74:50]: No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd stop fagging in again, he would give me a fag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away? Could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away and what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back in the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think we were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: It came— we ended up with nothing. They got us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I wouldn't enter the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You all right?' Then he gave me a fag and I was all right. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would I do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away and had to get the police. [B 91:32]: They get the police to bring you back. [A 91:34]: Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel, She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:08]: I don't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in yet, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly. [B 97:05]: That's fine. [A 97:12]: It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on the 10th of June 1978, and it was until the 6th, uh, it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even— that one, for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Peratory, for that. Actually, you know, there was more to that, with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and my auntie says that he would have gone to jail, but it ended up, and they ended up with he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— oh, the wee parrot, and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: The wee parrot, and it kept going down the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot, and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. Yes, yes. [A 106:44]: Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/8/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMacArdle@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge— I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution— and movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly. Before we move on, we'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like, you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, isn't it? [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said taking away her kind of control, so that she had schizophrenia. So that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, you know. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilcise. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the day that I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:08]: I was 13. Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff public park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie, and I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was me to polish 20 pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Perth. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse wee Perth place. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I've been at school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for? It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem. Where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae mem that one. I don't know if that was the one that I ran away from. I did run away from one of them because the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just, I think, they had me out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my granny, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my lasses had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of getting— going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. then it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this to this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:46]: Oh, I was distressed all the time with getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I can't tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, that is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually. Patrick had his part because I stayed there and went out to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnahcraig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? Yes, that's correct. That's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so it'll be the same questions what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? [A 43:21]: But that name is that institution For Balmer Craig School. I went to school there, I know. I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast, and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that, but she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me with extra hardbacks. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And, uh, but we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based at Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I get my da on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the headteacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I thought it was my birthday. That's Christmas. I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes, that was the one. [A 51:50]: I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I'd stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye! It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:22]: Yeah. Was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be actually abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. And looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was— the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have— who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hitched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balna Craig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:42]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsi. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't I? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something I think, eh, Miss Blonde, Miss Blunder, I think it was Miss Blunder. You'll have that name, social worker. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: I was placed in it, and they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up, open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? Which was How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? Okay. No, no, no problem. [A 74:50]: No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd stop fagging in again, he would give me a fag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away? Could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away and what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back in the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think we were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: It came— we ended up with nothing. They got us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I wouldn't enter the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You all right?' Then he gave me a fag and I was all right. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would I do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away and had to get the police. [B 91:32]: They get the police to bring you back. [A 91:34]: Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel, She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:08]: I don't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in yet, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly. [B 97:05]: That's fine. [A 97:12]: It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on the 10th of June 1978, and it was until the 6th, uh, it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even— that one, for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Peratory, for that. Actually, you know, there was more to that, with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and my auntie says that he would have gone to jail, but it ended up, and they ended up with he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— oh, the wee parrot, and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: The wee parrot, and it kept going down the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot, and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. Yes, yes. [A 106:44]: Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/8/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMacArdle@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge— I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution— and movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly. Before we move on, we'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like, you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, isn't it? [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said taking away her kind of control, so that she had schizophrenia. So that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, you know. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilcise. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the day that I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:08]: I was 13. Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff public park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie, and I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was me to polish 20 pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Perth. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse wee Perth place. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I've been at school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for? It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem. Where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae mem that one. I don't know if that was the one that I ran away from. I did run away from one of them because the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just, I think, they had me out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my granny, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my lasses had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of getting— going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. then it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this to this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:46]: Oh, I was distressed all the time with getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I can't tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, that is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually. Patrick had his part because I stayed there and went out to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnahcraig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? Yes, that's correct. That's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so it'll be the same questions what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? [A 43:21]: But that name is that institution For Balmer Craig School. I went to school there, I know. I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast, and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that, but she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me with extra hardbacks. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And, uh, but we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based at Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I get my da on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the headteacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I thought it was my birthday. That's Christmas. I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes, that was the one. [A 51:50]: I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I'd stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye! It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:22]: Yeah. Was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be actually abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. And looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was— the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have— who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hitched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balna Craig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:42]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsi. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't I? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something I think, eh, Miss Blonde, Miss Blunder, I think it was Miss Blunder. You'll have that name, social worker. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: I was placed in it, and they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up, open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? Which was How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? Okay. No, no, no problem. [A 74:50]: No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd stop fagging in again, he would give me a fag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away? Could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away and what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back in the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think we were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: It came— we ended up with nothing. They got us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I wouldn't enter the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You all right?' Then he gave me a fag and I was all right. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would I do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away and had to get the police. [B 91:32]: They get the police to bring you back. [A 91:34]: Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel, She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:08]: I don't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in yet, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly. [B 97:05]: That's fine. [A 97:12]: It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on the 10th of June 1978, and it was until the 6th, uh, it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even— that one, for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Peratory, for that. Actually, you know, there was more to that, with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and my auntie says that he would have gone to jail, but it ended up, and they ended up with he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— oh, the wee parrot, and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: The wee parrot, and it kept going down the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot, and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. Yes, yes. [A 106:44]: Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/8/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMacArdle@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge— I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution— and movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly. Before we move on, we'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like, you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, isn't it? [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said taking away her kind of control, so that she had schizophrenia. So that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, you know. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilcise. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the day that I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:08]: I was 13. Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff public park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie, and I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was me to polish 20 pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Perth. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse wee Perth place. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I've been at school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for? It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem. Where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae mem that one. I don't know if that was the one that I ran away from. I did run away from one of them because the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just, I think, they had me out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my granny, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my lasses had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of getting— going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. then it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this to this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:46]: Oh, I was distressed all the time with getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I can't tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, that is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually. Patrick had his part because I stayed there and went out to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnahcraig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? Yes, that's correct. That's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so it'll be the same questions what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? [A 43:21]: But that name is that institution For Balmer Craig School. I went to school there, I know. I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast, and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that, but she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me with extra hardbacks. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And, uh, but we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based at Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I get my da on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the headteacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I thought it was my birthday. That's Christmas. I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes, that was the one. [A 51:50]: I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I'd stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye! It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:22]: Yeah. Was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be actually abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. And looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was— the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have— who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hitched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balna Craig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:42]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsi. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't I? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something I think, eh, Miss Blonde, Miss Blunder, I think it was Miss Blunder. You'll have that name, social worker. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: I was placed in it, and they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up, open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? Which was How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? Okay. No, no, no problem. [A 74:50]: No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd stop fagging in again, he would give me a fag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away? Could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away and what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back in the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think we were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: It came— we ended up with nothing. They got us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I wouldn't enter the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You all right?' Then he gave me a fag and I was all right. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would I do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away and had to get the police. [B 91:32]: They get the police to bring you back. [A 91:34]: Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel, She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:08]: I don't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in yet, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly. [B 97:05]: That's fine. [A 97:12]: It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on the 10th of June 1978, and it was until the 6th, uh, it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even— that one, for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Peratory, for that. Actually, you know, there was more to that, with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and my auntie says that he would have gone to jail, but it ended up, and they ended up with he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— oh, the wee parrot, and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: The wee parrot, and it kept going down the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot, and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. Yes, yes. [A 106:44]: Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/8/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMacArdle@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge— I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution— and movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly. Before we move on, we'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like, you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, isn't it? [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said taking away her kind of control, so that she had schizophrenia. So that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, you know. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilcise. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the day that I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:08]: I was 13. Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff public park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie, and I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was me to polish 20 pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Perth. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse wee Perth place. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I've been at school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for? It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem. Where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae mem that one. I don't know if that was the one that I ran away from. I did run away from one of them because the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just, I think, they had me out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my granny, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my lasses had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of getting— going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. then it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this to this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:46]: Oh, I was distressed all the time with getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I can't tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, that is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually. Patrick had his part because I stayed there and went out to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnahcraig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? Yes, that's correct. That's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so it'll be the same questions what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? [A 43:21]: But that name is that institution For Balmer Craig School. I went to school there, I know. I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast, and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that, but she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me with extra hardbacks. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And, uh, but we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based at Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I get my da on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the headteacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I thought it was my birthday. That's Christmas. I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes, that was the one. [A 51:50]: I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I'd stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye! It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:22]: Yeah. Was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be actually abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. And looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was— the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have— who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hitched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balna Craig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:42]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsi. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't I? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something I think, eh, Miss Blonde, Miss Blunder, I think it was Miss Blunder. You'll have that name, social worker. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: I was placed in it, and they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up, open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? Which was How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? Okay. No, no, no problem. [A 74:50]: No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd stop fagging in again, he would give me a fag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away? Could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away and what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back in the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think we were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: It came— we ended up with nothing. They got us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I wouldn't enter the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You all right?' Then he gave me a fag and I was all right. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would I do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away and had to get the police. [B 91:32]: They get the police to bring you back. [A 91:34]: Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel, She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:08]: I don't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in yet, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly. [B 97:05]: That's fine. [A 97:12]: It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on the 10th of June 1978, and it was until the 6th, uh, it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even— that one, for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Peratory, for that. Actually, you know, there was more to that, with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and my auntie says that he would have gone to jail, but it ended up, and they ended up with he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— oh, the wee parrot, and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: The wee parrot, and it kept going down the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot, and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. Yes, yes. [A 106:44]: Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/8/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMacArdle@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge— I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution— and movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly. Before we move on, we'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like, you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, isn't it? [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said taking away her kind of control, so that she had schizophrenia. So that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, you know. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilcise. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the day that I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:08]: I was 13. Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff public park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie, and I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was me to polish 20 pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Perth. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse wee Perth place. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I've been at school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for? It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem. Where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae mem that one. I don't know if that was the one that I ran away from. I did run away from one of them because the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just, I think, they had me out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my granny, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my lasses had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of getting— going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. then it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this to this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:46]: Oh, I was distressed all the time with getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I can't tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, that is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually. Patrick had his part because I stayed there and went out to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnahcraig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? Yes, that's correct. That's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so it'll be the same questions what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? [A 43:21]: But that name is that institution For Balmer Craig School. I went to school there, I know. I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast, and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that, but she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me with extra hardbacks. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And, uh, but we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based at Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I get my da on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the headteacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I thought it was my birthday. That's Christmas. I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes, that was the one. [A 51:50]: I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I'd stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye! It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:22]: Yeah. Was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be actually abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. And looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was— the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have— who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hitched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balna Craig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:42]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsi. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't I? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something I think, eh, Miss Blonde, Miss Blunder, I think it was Miss Blunder. You'll have that name, social worker. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: I was placed in it, and they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up, open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? Which was How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? Okay. No, no, no problem. [A 74:50]: No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd stop fagging in again, he would give me a fag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away? Could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away and what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back in the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think we were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: It came— we ended up with nothing. They got us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I wouldn't enter the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You all right?' Then he gave me a fag and I was all right. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would I do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away and had to get the police. [B 91:32]: They get the police to bring you back. [A 91:34]: Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel, She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:08]: I don't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in yet, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly. [B 97:05]: That's fine. [A 97:12]: It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on the 10th of June 1978, and it was until the 6th, uh, it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even— that one, for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Peratory, for that. Actually, you know, there was more to that, with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and my auntie says that he would have gone to jail, but it ended up, and they ended up with he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— oh, the wee parrot, and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: The wee parrot, and it kept going down the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot, and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. Yes, yes. [A 106:44]: Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false) #16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob)) #17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob)) #18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob)) #20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array) #21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire() #22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default') #26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle() #27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}() #28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure)) #29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure)) #30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL) #31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array) #32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput)) #40 {main} [previous exception] [object] (PDOException(code: 22001): SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php:609) [stacktrace] #0 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/home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob)) #20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob)) #22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array) #23 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/8/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMacArdle@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge— I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution— and movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly. Before we move on, we'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like, you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, isn't it? [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said taking away her kind of control, so that she had schizophrenia. So that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, you know. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilcise. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the day that I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:08]: I was 13. Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff public park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie, and I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was me to polish 20 pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Perth. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse wee Perth place. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I've been at school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for? It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem. Where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae mem that one. I don't know if that was the one that I ran away from. I did run away from one of them because the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just, I think, they had me out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my granny, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my lasses had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of getting— going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. then it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this to this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:46]: Oh, I was distressed all the time with getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I can't tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, that is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually. Patrick had his part because I stayed there and went out to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnahcraig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? Yes, that's correct. That's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so it'll be the same questions what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? [A 43:21]: But that name is that institution For Balmer Craig School. I went to school there, I know. I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast, and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that, but she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me with extra hardbacks. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And, uh, but we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based at Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I get my da on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the headteacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I thought it was my birthday. That's Christmas. I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes, that was the one. [A 51:50]: I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I'd stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye! It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:22]: Yeah. Was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be actually abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. And looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was— the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have— who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hitched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balna Craig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:42]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsi. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't I? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something I think, eh, Miss Blonde, Miss Blunder, I think it was Miss Blunder. You'll have that name, social worker. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: I was placed in it, and they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up, open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? Which was How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? Okay. No, no, no problem. [A 74:50]: No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd stop fagging in again, he would give me a fag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away? Could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away and what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back in the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think we were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: It came— we ended up with nothing. They got us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I wouldn't enter the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You all right?' Then he gave me a fag and I was all right. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would I do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away and had to get the police. [B 91:32]: They get the police to bring you back. [A 91:34]: Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel, She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:08]: I don't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in yet, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly. [B 97:05]: That's fine. [A 97:12]: It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on the 10th of June 1978, and it was until the 6th, uh, it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even— that one, for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Peratory, for that. Actually, you know, there was more to that, with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and my auntie says that he would have gone to jail, but it ended up, and they ended up with he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— oh, the wee parrot, and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: The wee parrot, and it kept going down the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot, and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. Yes, yes. [A 106:44]: Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/8/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMacArdle@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge— I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution— and movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly. Before we move on, we'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like, you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, isn't it? [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said taking away her kind of control, so that she had schizophrenia. So that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, you know. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilcise. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the day that I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:08]: I was 13. Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff public park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie, and I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was me to polish 20 pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Perth. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse wee Perth place. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I've been at school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for? It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem. Where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae mem that one. I don't know if that was the one that I ran away from. I did run away from one of them because the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just, I think, they had me out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my granny, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my lasses had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of getting— going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. then it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this to this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:46]: Oh, I was distressed all the time with getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I can't tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, that is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually. Patrick had his part because I stayed there and went out to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnahcraig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? Yes, that's correct. That's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so it'll be the same questions what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? [A 43:21]: But that name is that institution For Balmer Craig School. I went to school there, I know. I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast, and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that, but she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me with extra hardbacks. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And, uh, but we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based at Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I get my da on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the headteacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I thought it was my birthday. That's Christmas. I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes, that was the one. [A 51:50]: I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I'd stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye! It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:22]: Yeah. Was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be actually abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. And looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was— the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have— who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hitched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balna Craig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:42]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsi. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't I? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something I think, eh, Miss Blonde, Miss Blunder, I think it was Miss Blunder. You'll have that name, social worker. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: I was placed in it, and they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up, open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? Which was How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? Okay. No, no, no problem. [A 74:50]: No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd stop fagging in again, he would give me a fag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away? Could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away and what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back in the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think we were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: It came— we ended up with nothing. They got us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I wouldn't enter the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You all right?' Then he gave me a fag and I was all right. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would I do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away and had to get the police. [B 91:32]: They get the police to bring you back. [A 91:34]: Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel, She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:08]: I don't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in yet, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly. [B 97:05]: That's fine. [A 97:12]: It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on the 10th of June 1978, and it was until the 6th, uh, it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even— that one, for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Peratory, for that. Actually, you know, there was more to that, with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and my auntie says that he would have gone to jail, but it ended up, and they ended up with he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— oh, the wee parrot, and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: The wee parrot, and it kept going down the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot, and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. Yes, yes. [A 106:44]: Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/8/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMacArdle@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge— I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution— and movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly. Before we move on, we'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like, you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, isn't it? [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said taking away her kind of control, so that she had schizophrenia. So that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, you know. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilcise. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the day that I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:08]: I was 13. Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff public park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie, and I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was me to polish 20 pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Perth. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse wee Perth place. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I've been at school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for? It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem. Where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae mem that one. I don't know if that was the one that I ran away from. I did run away from one of them because the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just, I think, they had me out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my granny, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my lasses had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of getting— going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. then it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this to this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:46]: Oh, I was distressed all the time with getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I can't tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, that is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually. Patrick had his part because I stayed there and went out to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnahcraig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? Yes, that's correct. That's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so it'll be the same questions what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? [A 43:21]: But that name is that institution For Balmer Craig School. I went to school there, I know. I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast, and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that, but she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me with extra hardbacks. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And, uh, but we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based at Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I get my da on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the headteacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I thought it was my birthday. That's Christmas. I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes, that was the one. [A 51:50]: I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I'd stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye! It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:22]: Yeah. Was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be actually abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. And looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was— the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have— who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hitched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balna Craig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:42]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsi. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't I? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something I think, eh, Miss Blonde, Miss Blunder, I think it was Miss Blunder. You'll have that name, social worker. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: I was placed in it, and they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up, open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? Which was How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? Okay. No, no, no problem. [A 74:50]: No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd stop fagging in again, he would give me a fag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away? Could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away and what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back in the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think we were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: It came— we ended up with nothing. They got us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I wouldn't enter the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You all right?' Then he gave me a fag and I was all right. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would I do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away and had to get the police. [B 91:32]: They get the police to bring you back. [A 91:34]: Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel, She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:08]: I don't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in yet, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly. [B 97:05]: That's fine. [A 97:12]: It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on the 10th of June 1978, and it was until the 6th, uh, it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even— that one, for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Peratory, for that. Actually, you know, there was more to that, with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and my auntie says that he would have gone to jail, but it ended up, and they ended up with he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— oh, the wee parrot, and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: The wee parrot, and it kept going down the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot, and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. Yes, yes. [A 106:44]: Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/8/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, put your email address in. Is it mine or Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMacArdle@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge— I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution— and movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly. Before we move on, we'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like, you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, isn't it? [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said taking away her kind of control, so that she had schizophrenia. So that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting drunk lads, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well nor that, all that, you know. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilcise. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the day that I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? Yeah. And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:08]: I was 13. Oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff public park, it was the very first one I was in, and they laid to me a boy's 20 pair of boots because 2 lasses ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going to tell me to do handstands. I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie, and I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was me to polish 20 pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Perth. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse wee Perth place. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I've been at school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for? It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem. Where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae mem that one. I don't know if that was the one that I ran away from. I did run away from one of them because the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: He thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? [B 19:38]: Yeah. [A 19:38]: It was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just, I think, they had me out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my granny, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. Yeah, it was not— I don't think it was a good time I had done that, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff, were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing? Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker? [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my lasses had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. [A 34:09]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. [B 34:12]: Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that. The stress of getting— going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. then it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this to this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:46]: Oh, I was distressed all the time with getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I can't tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lassies running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, that is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually. Patrick had his part because I stayed there and went out to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnahcraig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? Yes, that's correct. That's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so it'll be the same questions what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? [A 43:21]: But that name is that institution For Balmer Craig School. I went to school there, I know. I think the school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast, and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that, but she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me with extra hardbacks. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And, uh, but we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based at Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I get my da on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnah Craig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnah Craig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the headteacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I thought it was my birthday. That's Christmas. I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes, that was the one. [A 51:50]: I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me me, do you know what I mean? Because I'd stuck up, that they were all waiting for me at the train station. So I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye! It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— [B 54:22]: Yeah. Was there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:36]: Oh, he's hot in his hands, slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years. I don't, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be actually abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. And looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was— the teacher was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have— who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't have slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hitched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balna Craig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:42]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda. I think she's left now. No, Belinda. Oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsi. She was a social worker. [B 66:23]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker. I think it was a social worker, didn't I? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something I think, eh, Miss Blonde, Miss Blunder, I think it was Miss Blunder. You'll have that name, social worker. She was a social worker in Kirkby, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty nuts. [B 69:06]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to her room. [A 69:14]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: I was placed in it, and they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up, open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from now, but he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? Which was How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please, Theresa? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me and I would annoy her and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for— and Dad drew half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? Okay. No, no, no problem. [A 74:50]: No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be eating my fag. So I'd get a punishment, he'd stop fagging in again, he would give me a fag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over. So Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. [A 78:01]: 1994. [B 78:02]: Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning when we started talking about Balnakrieg, you mentioned that you kept getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away? Could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away and what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, Balnakrieg. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I came back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back in the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say that they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think we were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they were taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because they're going to stroke you. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: It came— we ended up with nothing. They got us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governors the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I wouldn't enter the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So, um, I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You all right?' Then he gave me a fag and I was all right. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just phoned the paper up. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just phoned the paper up. I said, I'm no, eh, right, no, that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would I do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away and had to get the police. [B 91:32]: They get the police to bring you back. [A 91:34]: Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel, She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up— I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill. You went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:08]: I don't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in yet, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly. [B 97:05]: That's fine. [A 97:12]: It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being this second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's all I can remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on the 10th of June 1978, and it was until the 6th, uh, it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even— that one, for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full-time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Peratory, for that. Actually, you know, there was more to that, with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and my auntie says that he would have gone to jail, but it ended up, and they ended up with he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well with him when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, eh, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— oh, the wee parrot, and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: The wee parrot, and it kept going down the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot, and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. Yes, yes. [A 106:44]: Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false) #16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob)) #17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob)) #18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob)) #20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array) #21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire() #22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default') #26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle() #27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}() #28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure)) #29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure)) #30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL) #31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array) #32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput)) #40 {main} [previous exception] [object] (PDOException(code: 22001): SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php:609) [stacktrace] #0 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/home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob)) #20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob)) #22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array) #23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire() #24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default') #28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle() #29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}() #30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure)) #31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure)) #32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL) #33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array) #34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput)) #42 {main} "} [2026-08-11 16:23:31] production.WARNING: Twilio webhook signature validation failed. {"url":"https://ha.fintrixor.co.uk/webhook/twilio/status","signature":"pQAWCFGbpITQ29eQ6Iab8PO2j1Y=","params":["Called","ParentCallSid","ToState","CallerCountry","Direction","Timestamp","CallbackSource","SipResponseCode","CallerState","ToZip","SequenceNumber","CallSid","To","CallerZip","ToCountry","CalledZip","ApiVersion","CalledCity","CallStatus","Duration","From","CallDuration","AccountSid","CalledCountry","CallerCity","ToCity","FromCountry","Caller","FromCity","CalledState","ErrorCode","FromZip","ErrorMessage","FromState"]} [2026-08-11 16:23:38] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} [2026-08-11 16:24:15] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA8017a13f9c09f271445fc00d5ea31c74","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5208"} [2026-08-11 16:24:16] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5208,"CallSid":"CA8017a13f9c09f271445fc00d5ea31c74","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CA8017a13f9c09f271445fc00d5ea31c74","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5208"}} [2026-08-11 16:24:23] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3629 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 16:24:23] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3629 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 16:24:23] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3629. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 16:24:24] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3629 [2026-08-11 16:24:46] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAca4b7d28c931f67566217b400197e9b1","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5209"} [2026-08-11 16:24:46] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5209,"CallSid":"CAca4b7d28c931f67566217b400197e9b1","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAca4b7d28c931f67566217b400197e9b1","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5209"}} [2026-08-11 16:24:49] production.WARNING: Twilio webhook signature validation failed. {"url":"https://ha.fintrixor.co.uk/webhook/twilio/status","signature":"cP61zmE6tFeNfSjlo1OxB/iFyeE=","params":["Called","ParentCallSid","ToState","CallerCountry","Direction","Timestamp","CallbackSource","SipResponseCode","CallerState","ToZip","SequenceNumber","CallSid","To","CallerZip","ToCountry","CalledZip","ApiVersion","CalledCity","CallStatus","Duration","From","CallDuration","AccountSid","CalledCountry","CallerCity","ToCity","FromCountry","Caller","FromCity","CalledState","ErrorCode","FromZip","ErrorMessage","FromState"]} [2026-08-11 16:24:55] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 16:25:08] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 16:25:10] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 16:25:11] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 16:25:12] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 16:25:15] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} [2026-08-11 16:25:31] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3630 → AssemblyAI e2632a3f-3134-4937-b257-32902b11a31a [2026-08-11 16:26:03] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 16:26:32] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3630 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 16:26:32] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3630 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 16:26:33] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3630. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 16:26:35] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3630 [2026-08-11 16:27:14] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 16:27:22] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 16:27:29] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 16:27:29] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAaf109c25ed3033deafb1f83881104981","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5210"} [2026-08-11 16:27:29] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5210,"CallSid":"CAaf109c25ed3033deafb1f83881104981","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAaf109c25ed3033deafb1f83881104981","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5210"}} [2026-08-11 16:27:33] production.WARNING: Twilio webhook signature validation failed. {"url":"https://ha.fintrixor.co.uk/webhook/twilio/status","signature":"L+LZlRDfqnTYV6bvtlGEChFp8j8=","params":["Called","ParentCallSid","ToState","CallerCountry","Direction","Timestamp","CallbackSource","SipResponseCode","CallerState","ToZip","SequenceNumber","CallSid","To","CallerZip","ToCountry","CalledZip","ApiVersion","CalledCity","CallStatus","Duration","From","CallDuration","AccountSid","CalledCountry","CallerCity","ToCity","FromCountry","Caller","FromCity","CalledState","ErrorCode","FromZip","ErrorMessage","FromState"]} [2026-08-11 16:27:37] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 16:28:03] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAefeab31125fd322191314ce7736b57b8","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5211"} [2026-08-11 16:28:03] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5211,"CallSid":"CAefeab31125fd322191314ce7736b57b8","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAefeab31125fd322191314ce7736b57b8","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5211"}} [2026-08-11 16:28:17] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} [2026-08-11 16:28:33] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 16:28:37] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3631 → AssemblyAI 92281a81-e979-4406-af00-7384d70b5ad0 [2026-08-11 16:28:39] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 16:28:53] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAdb911704f5bbe31f1e9f98dcc58edf63","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5212"} [2026-08-11 16:28:53] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5212,"CallSid":"CAdb911704f5bbe31f1e9f98dcc58edf63","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAdb911704f5bbe31f1e9f98dcc58edf63","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5212"}} [2026-08-11 16:29:38] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3631 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 16:29:38] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3631 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 16:29:38] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3631. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 16:29:38] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 3631 — too short to classify (duration=25s, words=67). [2026-08-11 16:29:43] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3632 → AssemblyAI 6cb232ef-6f36-45ff-a68c-db0c0eba8ec0 [2026-08-11 16:30:06] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 16:30:08] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAb8a8bb353340d161739c77017f6adbc2","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5213"} [2026-08-11 16:30:08] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5213,"CallSid":"CAb8a8bb353340d161739c77017f6adbc2","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAb8a8bb353340d161739c77017f6adbc2","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5213"}} [2026-08-11 16:30:08] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAb49dc54843a1381e24e4e6e49b17a5cb","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5214"} [2026-08-11 16:30:08] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5214,"CallSid":"CAb49dc54843a1381e24e4e6e49b17a5cb","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAb49dc54843a1381e24e4e6e49b17a5cb","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5214"}} [2026-08-11 16:30:25] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 16:30:38] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA23d3538d14becbc4938c5375674f123a","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5215"} [2026-08-11 16:30:38] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5215,"CallSid":"CA23d3538d14becbc4938c5375674f123a","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA23d3538d14becbc4938c5375674f123a","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5215"}} [2026-08-11 16:30:45] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3632 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 16:30:45] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3632 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 16:30:45] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3632. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 16:30:45] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 3632 — too short to classify (duration=28s, words=81). [2026-08-11 16:31:17] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_2"} [2026-08-11 16:31:27] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 16:31:38] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3633 → AssemblyAI f6cff86a-3266-4f76-a923-67894366ed50 [2026-08-11 16:31:51] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 16:31:53] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 16:31:55] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 16:31:55] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441615700550","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CA13693c5691745d52a4c42185c48b95cf","To":"+441615700550","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0ExMzY5M2M1NjkxNzQ1ZDUyYTRjNDIxODVjNDhiOTVjZiIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3NDg3NTk3MDQxIiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE1NzAwNTUwIiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NjQ2MjMxNCJ9.UfROvc-9zBQsB3pTlrw7ivmf3JQBmwGMmeFV6O-cJ8ewRRUFJkcri5cpfkGeork14tI6Ff4C4eio0N-tOf66DQ%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447487597041","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+447487597041","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} [2026-08-11 16:32:06] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} [2026-08-11 16:32:21] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CA13693c5691745d52a4c42185c48b95cf","DialCallSid":"CAfaec0eebebe6679bc59d51f5c03e78d7","DialCallStatus":"no-answer","DialCallDuration":null} [2026-08-11 16:32:29] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAc6720fa735a460496ea642d719e82f0b","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5217"} [2026-08-11 16:32:29] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5217,"CallSid":"CAc6720fa735a460496ea642d719e82f0b","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAc6720fa735a460496ea642d719e82f0b","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5217"}} [2026-08-11 16:32:33] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16592 classified as 'generic' (high). [2026-08-11 16:32:39] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3633 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 16:32:39] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3633 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 16:32:40] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3633. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 16:32:41] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3633 [2026-08-11 16:32:51] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441615700550","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CA669fe8729bdfff4131f13066957a6e45","To":"+441615700550","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0E2NjlmZTg3MjliZGZmZjQxMzFmMTMwNjY5NTdhNmU0NSIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3NDg3NTk3MDQxIiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE1NzAwNTUwIiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NjQ2MjM3MSJ9.mPoizFHIt7R40ZEpWCeGW3RxqMas-2NCqAPrr3NjafqCe0ydNXzGpicmBTjHpYmwM4NqPp0Iy2eMRAWDnrawAw%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447487597041","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+447487597041","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} [2026-08-11 16:32:52] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} [2026-08-11 16:33:10] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CA669fe8729bdfff4131f13066957a6e45","DialCallSid":"CAd6651b6569f5b6909a4ddff67267f609","DialCallStatus":"no-answer","DialCallDuration":null} [2026-08-11 16:33:12] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3262 → AssemblyAI 9616a5c2-0de2-422c-8b35-c6000daf5304 [2026-08-11 16:33:13] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441615700550","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CA4f6f77c386fd4a85d7ac2aca5af49f28","To":"+441615700550","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0E0ZjZmNzdjMzg2ZmQ0YTg1ZDdhYzJhY2E1YWY0OWYyOCIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3NDg3NTk3MDQxIiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE1NzAwNTUwIiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NjQ2MjM5MiJ9.A8p_9A4FV_9-rL1ZVqHp3mFNZsdT6Djwk56CgPbNDMpSPvc3OngO_1RxuL13NM8QEXo--Ufgydb8_Citvjv9Uw%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447487597041","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+447487597041","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} [2026-08-11 16:33:29] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAca6e5f7d20b94ffc89508fdbca7ba50a","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5220"} [2026-08-11 16:33:29] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5220,"CallSid":"CAca6e5f7d20b94ffc89508fdbca7ba50a","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAca6e5f7d20b94ffc89508fdbca7ba50a","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5220"}} [2026-08-11 16:33:36] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 16:33:39] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CA4f6f77c386fd4a85d7ac2aca5af49f28","DialCallSid":"CA4665f7fb3d54b31bb02bb2e5aa34e948","DialCallStatus":"no-answer","DialCallDuration":null} [2026-08-11 16:34:15] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3262 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 16:34:15] production.ERROR: SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: update `synapse_transcripts` set `status` = completed, `raw_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, which is your email address? Is it mine? Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMacArdle@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said, take her away, I can't control her. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting junk in the hang, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well, nor that, all that, you know. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? [A 09:30]: Yeah. [B 09:30]: And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:09]: 13, oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff court department, was the very first one I was in, and they read to me, eh, Paulie's 20 pair of boots, because 2 lashes ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going like, tell me do handstands. Eh, I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I said I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, we'll try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Perth. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse wee Perth place. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: I thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? Yeah, it was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my gran, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear Hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them, the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, I just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing. Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker. [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was— I never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. Yeah, okay, that's fine. Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that, and the stress of getting— going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lasses running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:27]: I went to school there, I know. I think my school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think to me I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we ask for her hand back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And, uh, but we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based at Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnahcraig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnahcraig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas, I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me, you know what I mean, because I'd stuck up. They were all waiting for me at the train station, so I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, um, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— yeah. [B 54:27]: Was, um, there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:37]: Oh, he slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years ago, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was the teacher, was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like, go a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balna Craig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:42]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda, and I think she's left now. No, Belinda, oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis, she was a social worker. [B 66:24]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker, aye, I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Turkey, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty, nuts. [B 69:05]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to 1. [A 69:15]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from here, that he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me, or I would annoy her, and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for a gadroo half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be easy to mouth ague. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over, so Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. 1994. Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakree, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, um, Balnakree. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I come back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say, they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think we were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they was taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because I'm in a stroke unit. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governor the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, do you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just flung the paper at them. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just flung the paper at them. I'm no raving or that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel, She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up, I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill— you went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being the second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's how I can't remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 13th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even remember that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, which is your email address? Is it mine? Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMacArdle@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said, take her away, I can't control her. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting junk in the hang, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well, nor that, all that, you know. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? [A 09:30]: Yeah. [B 09:30]: And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:09]: 13, oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff court department, was the very first one I was in, and they read to me, eh, Paulie's 20 pair of boots, because 2 lashes ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going like, tell me do handstands. Eh, I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I said I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, we'll try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Perth. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse wee Perth place. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: I thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? Yeah, it was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my gran, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear Hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them, the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, I just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing. Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker. [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was— I never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. Yeah, okay, that's fine. Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that, and the stress of getting— going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lasses running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:27]: I went to school there, I know. I think my school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think to me I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we ask for her hand back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And, uh, but we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based at Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnahcraig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnahcraig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas, I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me, you know what I mean, because I'd stuck up. They were all waiting for me at the train station, so I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, um, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— yeah. [B 54:27]: Was, um, there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:37]: Oh, he slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years ago, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was the teacher, was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like, go a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balna Craig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:42]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda, and I think she's left now. No, Belinda, oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis, she was a social worker. [B 66:24]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker, aye, I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Turkey, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty, nuts. [B 69:05]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to 1. [A 69:15]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from here, that he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me, or I would annoy her, and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for a gadroo half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be easy to mouth ague. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over, so Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. 1994. Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakree, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, um, Balnakree. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I come back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say, they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think we were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they was taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because I'm in a stroke unit. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governor the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, do you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just flung the paper at them. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just flung the paper at them. I'm no raving or that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel, She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up, I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill— you went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being the second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's how I can't remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 13th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even remember that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, which is your email address? Is it mine? Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMacArdle@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said, take her away, I can't control her. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting junk in the hang, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well, nor that, all that, you know. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? [A 09:30]: Yeah. [B 09:30]: And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:09]: 13, oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff court department, was the very first one I was in, and they read to me, eh, Paulie's 20 pair of boots, because 2 lashes ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going like, tell me do handstands. Eh, I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I said I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, we'll try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Perth. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse wee Perth place. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: I thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? Yeah, it was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my gran, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear Hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them, the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, I just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing. Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker. [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was— I never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. Yeah, okay, that's fine. Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that, and the stress of getting— going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lasses running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:27]: I went to school there, I know. I think my school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think to me I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we ask for her hand back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And, uh, but we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based at Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnahcraig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnahcraig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas, I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me, you know what I mean, because I'd stuck up. They were all waiting for me at the train station, so I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, um, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— yeah. [B 54:27]: Was, um, there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:37]: Oh, he slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years ago, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was the teacher, was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like, go a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balna Craig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:42]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda, and I think she's left now. No, Belinda, oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis, she was a social worker. [B 66:24]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker, aye, I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Turkey, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty, nuts. [B 69:05]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to 1. [A 69:15]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from here, that he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me, or I would annoy her, and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for a gadroo half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be easy to mouth ague. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over, so Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. 1994. Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakree, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, um, Balnakree. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I come back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say, they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think we were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they was taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because I'm in a stroke unit. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governor the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, do you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just flung the paper at them. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just flung the paper at them. I'm no raving or that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel, She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up, I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill— you went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being the second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's how I can't remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 13th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even remember that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, which is your email address? Is it mine? Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMacArdle@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said, take her away, I can't control her. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting junk in the hang, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well, nor that, all that, you know. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? [A 09:30]: Yeah. [B 09:30]: And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:09]: 13, oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff court department, was the very first one I was in, and they read to me, eh, Paulie's 20 pair of boots, because 2 lashes ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going like, tell me do handstands. Eh, I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I said I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, we'll try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Perth. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse wee Perth place. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: I thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? Yeah, it was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my gran, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear Hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them, the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, I just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing. Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker. [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was— I never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. Yeah, okay, that's fine. Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that, and the stress of getting— going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lasses running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:27]: I went to school there, I know. I think my school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think to me I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we ask for her hand back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And, uh, but we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based at Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnahcraig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnahcraig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas, I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me, you know what I mean, because I'd stuck up. They were all waiting for me at the train station, so I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, um, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— yeah. [B 54:27]: Was, um, there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:37]: Oh, he slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years ago, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was the teacher, was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like, go a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balna Craig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:42]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda, and I think she's left now. No, Belinda, oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis, she was a social worker. [B 66:24]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker, aye, I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Turkey, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty, nuts. [B 69:05]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to 1. [A 69:15]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from here, that he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me, or I would annoy her, and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for a gadroo half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be easy to mouth ague. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over, so Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. 1994. Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakree, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, um, Balnakree. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I come back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say, they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think we were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they was taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because I'm in a stroke unit. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governor the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, do you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just flung the paper at them. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just flung the paper at them. I'm no raving or that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel, She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up, I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill— you went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being the second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's how I can't remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 13th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even remember that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, which is your email address? Is it mine? Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMacArdle@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said, take her away, I can't control her. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting junk in the hang, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well, nor that, all that, you know. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? [A 09:30]: Yeah. [B 09:30]: And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:09]: 13, oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff court department, was the very first one I was in, and they read to me, eh, Paulie's 20 pair of boots, because 2 lashes ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going like, tell me do handstands. Eh, I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I said I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, we'll try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Perth. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse wee Perth place. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: I thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? Yeah, it was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my gran, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear Hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them, the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, I just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing. Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker. [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was— I never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. Yeah, okay, that's fine. Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that, and the stress of getting— going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lasses running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:27]: I went to school there, I know. I think my school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think to me I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we ask for her hand back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And, uh, but we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based at Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnahcraig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnahcraig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas, I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me, you know what I mean, because I'd stuck up. They were all waiting for me at the train station, so I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, um, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— yeah. [B 54:27]: Was, um, there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:37]: Oh, he slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years ago, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was the teacher, was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like, go a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balna Craig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:42]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda, and I think she's left now. No, Belinda, oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis, she was a social worker. [B 66:24]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker, aye, I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Turkey, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty, nuts. [B 69:05]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to 1. [A 69:15]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from here, that he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me, or I would annoy her, and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for a gadroo half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be easy to mouth ague. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over, so Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. 1994. Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakree, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, um, Balnakree. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I come back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say, they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think we were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they was taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because I'm in a stroke unit. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governor the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, do you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just flung the paper at them. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just flung the paper at them. I'm no raving or that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel, She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up, I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill— you went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being the second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's how I can't remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 13th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even remember that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, which is your email address? Is it mine? Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMacArdle@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said, take her away, I can't control her. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting junk in the hang, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well, nor that, all that, you know. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? [A 09:30]: Yeah. [B 09:30]: And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:09]: 13, oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff court department, was the very first one I was in, and they read to me, eh, Paulie's 20 pair of boots, because 2 lashes ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going like, tell me do handstands. Eh, I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I said I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, we'll try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Perth. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse wee Perth place. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: I thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? Yeah, it was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my gran, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear Hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them, the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, I just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing. Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker. [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was— I never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. Yeah, okay, that's fine. Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that, and the stress of getting— going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lasses running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:27]: I went to school there, I know. I think my school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think to me I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we ask for her hand back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And, uh, but we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based at Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnahcraig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnahcraig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas, I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me, you know what I mean, because I'd stuck up. They were all waiting for me at the train station, so I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, um, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— yeah. [B 54:27]: Was, um, there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:37]: Oh, he slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years ago, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was the teacher, was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like, go a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balna Craig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:42]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda, and I think she's left now. No, Belinda, oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis, she was a social worker. [B 66:24]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker, aye, I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Turkey, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty, nuts. [B 69:05]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to 1. [A 69:15]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from here, that he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me, or I would annoy her, and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for a gadroo half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be easy to mouth ague. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over, so Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. 1994. Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakree, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, um, Balnakree. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I come back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say, they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think we were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they was taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because I'm in a stroke unit. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governor the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, do you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just flung the paper at them. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just flung the paper at them. I'm no raving or that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel, She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up, I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill— you went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being the second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's how I can't remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 13th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even remember that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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Glen.","start":804870,"end":806770,"confidence":0.875427399999999966695440889452584087848663330078125},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"A","text":"Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends.","start":807624,"end":810087,"confidence":0.7803588500000000482970108350855298340320587158203125},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"A","text":"I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Perth.","start":811483,"end":821404,"confidence":0.9174835999999999547327433901955373585224151611328125},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"A","text":"I can't remember the name of that one.","start":822653,"end":824226,"confidence":0.69688969999999994531236779948812909424304962158203125},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","speaker":"A","text":"I don't know, it was a Scouse wee Perth 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, which is your email address? Is it mine? Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMacArdle@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said, take her away, I can't control her. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting junk in the hang, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well, nor that, all that, you know. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? [A 09:30]: Yeah. [B 09:30]: And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:09]: 13, oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff court department, was the very first one I was in, and they read to me, eh, Paulie's 20 pair of boots, because 2 lashes ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going like, tell me do handstands. Eh, I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I said I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, we'll try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Perth. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse wee Perth place. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: I thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? Yeah, it was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my gran, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear Hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them, the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, I just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing. Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker. [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was— I never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. Yeah, okay, that's fine. Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that, and the stress of getting— going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lasses running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:27]: I went to school there, I know. I think my school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think to me I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we ask for her hand back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And, uh, but we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based at Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnahcraig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnahcraig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas, I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me, you know what I mean, because I'd stuck up. They were all waiting for me at the train station, so I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, um, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— yeah. [B 54:27]: Was, um, there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:37]: Oh, he slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years ago, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was the teacher, was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like, go a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balna Craig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:42]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda, and I think she's left now. No, Belinda, oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis, she was a social worker. [B 66:24]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker, aye, I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Turkey, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty, nuts. [B 69:05]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to 1. [A 69:15]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from here, that he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me, or I would annoy her, and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for a gadroo half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be easy to mouth ague. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over, so Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. 1994. Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakree, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, um, Balnakree. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I come back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say, they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think we were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they was taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because I'm in a stroke unit. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governor the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, do you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just flung the paper at them. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just flung the paper at them. I'm no raving or that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel, She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up, I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill— you went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being the second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's how I can't remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 13th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even remember that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, which is your email address? Is it mine? Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMacArdle@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said, take her away, I can't control her. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting junk in the hang, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well, nor that, all that, you know. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? [A 09:30]: Yeah. [B 09:30]: And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:09]: 13, oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff court department, was the very first one I was in, and they read to me, eh, Paulie's 20 pair of boots, because 2 lashes ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going like, tell me do handstands. Eh, I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I said I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, we'll try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Perth. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse wee Perth place. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: I thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? Yeah, it was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my gran, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear Hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them, the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, I just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing. Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker. [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was— I never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. Yeah, okay, that's fine. Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that, and the stress of getting— going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lasses running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:27]: I went to school there, I know. I think my school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think to me I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we ask for her hand back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And, uh, but we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based at Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnahcraig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnahcraig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas, I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me, you know what I mean, because I'd stuck up. They were all waiting for me at the train station, so I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, um, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— yeah. [B 54:27]: Was, um, there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:37]: Oh, he slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years ago, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was the teacher, was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like, go a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balna Craig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:42]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda, and I think she's left now. No, Belinda, oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis, she was a social worker. [B 66:24]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker, aye, I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Turkey, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty, nuts. [B 69:05]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to 1. [A 69:15]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from here, that he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me, or I would annoy her, and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for a gadroo half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be easy to mouth ague. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over, so Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. 1994. Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakree, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, um, Balnakree. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I come back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say, they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think we were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they was taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because I'm in a stroke unit. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governor the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, do you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just flung the paper at them. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just flung the paper at them. I'm no raving or that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel, She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up, I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill— you went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being the second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's how I can't remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 13th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even remember that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false) #16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob)) #17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob)) #18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob)) #20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array) #21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire() #22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default') #26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle() #27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}() #28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure)) #29 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Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput)) #40 {main} [previous exception] [object] (PDOException(code: 22001): SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php:609) [stacktrace] #0 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/home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob)) #20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob)) #22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array) #23 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, which is your email address? Is it mine? Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMacArdle@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said, take her away, I can't control her. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting junk in the hang, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well, nor that, all that, you know. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? [A 09:30]: Yeah. [B 09:30]: And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:09]: 13, oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff court department, was the very first one I was in, and they read to me, eh, Paulie's 20 pair of boots, because 2 lashes ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going like, tell me do handstands. Eh, I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I said I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, we'll try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Perth. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse wee Perth place. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: I thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? Yeah, it was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my gran, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear Hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them, the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, I just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing. Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker. [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was— I never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. Yeah, okay, that's fine. Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that, and the stress of getting— going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lasses running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:27]: I went to school there, I know. I think my school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think to me I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we ask for her hand back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And, uh, but we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based at Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnahcraig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnahcraig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas, I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me, you know what I mean, because I'd stuck up. They were all waiting for me at the train station, so I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, um, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— yeah. [B 54:27]: Was, um, there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:37]: Oh, he slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years ago, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was the teacher, was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like, go a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balna Craig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:42]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda, and I think she's left now. No, Belinda, oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis, she was a social worker. [B 66:24]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker, aye, I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Turkey, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty, nuts. [B 69:05]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to 1. [A 69:15]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from here, that he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me, or I would annoy her, and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for a gadroo half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be easy to mouth ague. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over, so Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. 1994. Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakree, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, um, Balnakree. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I come back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say, they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think we were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they was taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because I'm in a stroke unit. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governor the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, do you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just flung the paper at them. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just flung the paper at them. I'm no raving or that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel, She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up, I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill— you went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being the second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's how I can't remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 13th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even remember that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, which is your email address? Is it mine? Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMacArdle@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said, take her away, I can't control her. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting junk in the hang, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well, nor that, all that, you know. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? [A 09:30]: Yeah. [B 09:30]: And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:09]: 13, oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff court department, was the very first one I was in, and they read to me, eh, Paulie's 20 pair of boots, because 2 lashes ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going like, tell me do handstands. Eh, I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I said I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, we'll try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Perth. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse wee Perth place. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: I thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? Yeah, it was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my gran, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear Hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them, the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, I just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing. Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker. [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was— I never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. Yeah, okay, that's fine. Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that, and the stress of getting— going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lasses running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:27]: I went to school there, I know. I think my school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think to me I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we ask for her hand back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And, uh, but we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based at Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnahcraig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnahcraig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas, I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me, you know what I mean, because I'd stuck up. They were all waiting for me at the train station, so I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, um, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— yeah. [B 54:27]: Was, um, there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:37]: Oh, he slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years ago, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was the teacher, was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like, go a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balna Craig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:42]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda, and I think she's left now. No, Belinda, oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis, she was a social worker. [B 66:24]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker, aye, I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Turkey, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty, nuts. [B 69:05]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to 1. [A 69:15]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from here, that he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me, or I would annoy her, and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for a gadroo half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be easy to mouth ague. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over, so Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. 1994. Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakree, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, um, Balnakree. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I come back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say, they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think we were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they was taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because I'm in a stroke unit. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governor the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, do you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just flung the paper at them. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just flung the paper at them. I'm no raving or that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel, She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up, I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill— you went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being the second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's how I can't remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 13th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even remember that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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[B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, which is your email address? Is it mine? Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMacArdle@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said, take her away, I can't control her. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting junk in the hang, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well, nor that, all that, you know. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? [A 09:30]: Yeah. [B 09:30]: And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:09]: 13, oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff court department, was the very first one I was in, and they read to me, eh, Paulie's 20 pair of boots, because 2 lashes ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going like, tell me do handstands. Eh, I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I said I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, we'll try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Perth. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse wee Perth place. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: I thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? Yeah, it was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my gran, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear Hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them, the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, I just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing. Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker. [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was— I never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. Yeah, okay, that's fine. Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that, and the stress of getting— going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lasses running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:27]: I went to school there, I know. I think my school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think to me I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we ask for her hand back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And, uh, but we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based at Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnahcraig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnahcraig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas, I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me, you know what I mean, because I'd stuck up. They were all waiting for me at the train station, so I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, um, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— yeah. [B 54:27]: Was, um, there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:37]: Oh, he slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years ago, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was the teacher, was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like, go a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balna Craig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:42]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda, and I think she's left now. No, Belinda, oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis, she was a social worker. [B 66:24]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker, aye, I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Turkey, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty, nuts. [B 69:05]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to 1. [A 69:15]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from here, that he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me, or I would annoy her, and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for a gadroo half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be easy to mouth ague. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over, so Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. 1994. Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakree, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, um, Balnakree. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I come back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say, they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think we were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they was taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because I'm in a stroke unit. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governor the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, do you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just flung the paper at them. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just flung the paper at them. I'm no raving or that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel, She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up, I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill— you went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being the second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's how I can't remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 13th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even remember that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. [B 108:31]: No problem, you're welcome too, though., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:01]: Hello? [B 00:02]: Hello, am I through to Theresa Sinclair? [A 00:05]: Yes. [B 00:05]: Hi Theresa, it's James calling from MMA Legal. How are you today? You okay? [A 00:09]: I'm fine. [B 00:10]: Good to hear. Just before I continue with the call, I just need to ask you 3 questions for data protection purposes. Could you confirm for me your date of birth, please, Theresa? [A 00:19]: 15/08/68. [B 00:21]: Your postal address for me, please? [A 00:24]: 98 Main Street, Lanarkstown. [B 00:27]: Yeah, and then can you also confirm for me either your email address or your mobile number, please? [A 00:33]: Eh, I think I'll give you my daughter's email address. Megan, which is your email address? Is it mine? Megan's? [B 00:46]: Um, I won't be able to confirm which one it is between you both if you can provide me with two email addresses. [A 00:53]: Mine is TheresaSinclair95@gmail.com and Megan's MeganMacArdle@hotmail.com. [B 01:08]: Yeah, it is, um, you've passed data protection now. Just for future reference, it is Megan's email address. [A 01:14]: I thought that, because I don't really do them emails. [B 01:18]: Of course, that's perfectly understandable. Don't worry about it, Theresa. So you've passed data protection now then, and just to let you know the calls are recorded for training and monitoring purposes. Fantastic. Okay, so the purpose of today's call, Theresa, is to take a detailed witness statement about your time in care, what happened to you, how it affected you, and what evidence may exist. I will guide you through the questions in order. Some questions may feel difficult, so if you wish to take a break at any time to either gather yourself or to either just get yourself a glass of water, just vocalise it while we're on the phone and we can take a break. I may need to bring us back to the timeline if we move too far ahead, just so we make sure that your statement is clear and complete. [A 02:06]: Right. [B 02:07]: No problem. So just before we begin, there are 12 stages to the witness statement. One being opening and consent. Two being your personal background and entry into care. Three is your care placement chronology, as to which you've confirmed on the phone previous to my colleague Leah, but I will go through that again with you just to confirm. Part 4 is compact placement sheet, which is one per care setting, and what I've got currently is that you've got 5. So just so you are aware, these questions will be repeated to you 5 times for each individual institution. We then have The next part, which is people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. I'll ask this once we've gone through each institution. And movement between placements and leaving care. And then it's the impact of the experience of care as a whole. Then 9 would be any support and treatment. 10, the evidence and support information. 11 goes through previous claims applications or payments that you may or may not have received already. And then reason 12 being the reason reasoning for applying. So we will begin with the opening and consent. Are you comfortable and happy to continue with the witness statement today? Yes. Do you need anyone with you, a break, or any other further adjustments? If you ever hear silence on my end of the phone, it's just me typing up the notes. All right. Do you understand the purpose of the statement and agree that it may be used for your Scottish redress application and supporting evidence? [A 04:03]: Yes. [B 04:03]: Fantastic. Now, Theresa, we're just going to go into the personal background and the entry into care. Could you just tell me, where did you grow up and who lived with you before you went into care? [A 04:19]: Oh, my mum, dad, my sister. My brother, my twin brother, and my other two sisters were married. So we were put in a home for droguies, I think it was supposed to be. Eh, my sister went, she went to Aunt Mandy's just to— [B 04:55]: yeah, no worries, I'll come back to that shortly before we move on. We'll just continue with, um, just everything before. So at the moment I've just got like you lived with your mum and dad, your sister, your brother, and then also your twin brother. So does that mean you have two brothers, just to confirm? [A 05:14]: No, no, one brother. [B 05:15]: Just the one brother? [A 05:17]: My twin. [B 05:18]: Yeah, and then your two sisters were married, so I'm presuming they wasn't in, in the family home? No. And where was your family home? [A 05:36]: In Gibbon Court, kid. [B 05:40]: What number? Sorry, 3. [A 05:42]: Ben Coit Crescent. [B 05:43]: Could you spell that for me, please? [A 05:46]: B-E-N-C-L-O-I-C-H. Oh, I-G-H-C-C. Oh, sorry, C-H. [B 06:00]: And that was Crescent, did you say? What area? Lennoxtown. Fantastic. What was home life like before care? And try to include any relevant family health, education, or social work difficulties that are relevant. [A 06:31]: Well, when I went to the panel, my mum just— she was no well, so she just said, take her away, I can't control her. So that's— she had schizophrenia, so that's how my dad tried to get me kept out. But I think I was in Calder Park when my sister's man, he managed to get me out. I was in their care for a wee while, but then I wouldn't go to school, so I was back in again. [B 07:00]: So your mother wasn't well when you was taken to the panel, so they took you away from your mother, and then your father tried to keep you at home? [A 07:09]: My dad said he would take me should I went to school, Matt, but they says no, because what the mother said then was that was where they were putting junk in the hang, you know what I mean? My dad was greeting and that, and so was I greeting. It was just my mum wasn't well. I didn't know that at the time, obviously. Yeah, I can all understand it all now, you know what I mean? [B 07:40]: Yeah. And how would you say your education was like before you went into care? [A 07:52]: I was always dogging school. [B 07:59]: He was always dodging school. Aye. [A 08:04]: And just the way my mum would be no well, nor that, all that, you know. My dad was an alcoholic as well. [B 08:28]: How did you come to enter care? Who made the decision, and were you told the reasons as to why you was going into care? [A 08:37]: It was some panel I went to. I'm trying to think. In fact, it was in Kilceith. It was a panel to say if we went to— that's what I was took, a children's panel. And that's the— they decided I was getting away, so they took my wee lad there. [B 08:58]: So it was some panel in Kilsize, and did they tell you the reason as to why you was going into care? [A 09:04]: I don't know, I can't remember that much time back. [B 09:07]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, Theresa, don't worry. Do you have any siblings, Theresa? [A 09:30]: Yeah. [B 09:30]: And were you separated from any of them during your time in care? [A 09:37]: I was away for them all, aye. I think that when we were children, babies, we were 6 months when my mum had a breakdown in the road at home then as well. [B 10:00]: Yeah, the next question being, Theresa, how old were you when you first entered care and how did you feel at the time? [A 10:09]: 13, oh, I felt terrible. I hated it. I didn't like it, but I couldn't help it. I ended up— I was in a Cardiff court department, was the very first one I was in, and they read to me, eh, Paulie's 20 pair of boots, because 2 lashes ran away and I never told them because we were out the back and So that was my punishment, but the man was going like, tell me do handstands. Eh, I'm not doing handstands, I was in my nightie. And I was like, I said, I'm not doing a handstand because I said I've not got my pants on. So he said, so that was made to polish a pair of boots. But I knew that wasn't right at the time, do you know what I mean? But I didn't know why he was the boot Yeah, of course. [B 11:00]: We'll come back to that once it gets there. Um, the institution questions, we'll try to keep each answer relevant to each question as well, just so we can— once the statement's finished and concluded with the phone call, I'll draught the statement up so all the questions that I ask are all relevant and will create a full-flowing chronology of your time within care. So I just don't want you to try and get too ahead of yourself, that's all. But, um, what you could say is very— it's obviously very important, and it was something we'll go through very soon. Just the next question at the moment is just, um, is there anything important about your childhood health, learning needs, vulnerability, unnamed history that should be recorded? [A 11:57]: I'll bring you in my medical records. I don't really know some of the questions you're asking me. [B 12:04]: So it's essentially just saying if there was any, um, any point in your childhood before you went to care, um, did you have any health needs or any learning needs, or if you was classed as a vulnerable child at that time in relation to your health. [A 12:22]: A vulnerable child, probably, because I was abused by my mum's brother. [B 12:34]: By your mum's what, sorry? [A 12:36]: My mum's brother. And they never acknowledged that I was 37, I said I'm 37, because I was pregnant with Megan at the time.. And that came up and they came to my house about it because it had happened to his daughter as well, but he's now passed away, so that's out the question now, you know what I mean? Yeah. My mum, I think my mum, she wouldn't talk about it obviously because it was her brother and she was no well anyway, but I can understand that now, but at the time I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it and I had me to tell them because I wouldn't get him at the weekends because I worked when I came home at the weekends. I worked up in Campsie Glen. Yeah, so I'd go out at the weekends. I was in that place for about 6 weeks, I think, and then I think I went up to a place up in Perth. I can't remember the name of that one. I don't know, it was a Scouse wee Perth place. [B 13:48]: Prison. That's okay if you can't remember, don't, don't, um, worry yourself too much. So that's the— that's concluding the personal background and entry into care. And as I said before, I'm just going to confirm to you what we have on file, um, following your previous phone call with my colleague Leah. We have that your first care setting was Calder House, and this was in Blantyre. The approximate dates we have for you is that you entered Calder House on the 15th of March 1977 at the age of 14. You was placed there by the authority of South Lanarkshire Council following the panel hearing. The second case that we have is— apologies for the pronunciation— the pronunciation, but Balmacraig School, the location of that being Perth. We have the dates being the 8th August in 1977 up until November in 1977 at age of 14, and the placing authority being Perth and Kinross. The third setting that we have is Cardross Park, and the location being at Cardross, and this was following November 1977 at age 14, and the placing authority that we have is Argyle and Bute. Being on remand for an assessment. The fourth care setting we have is Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon, and you was there on the 11th, again in November 1977, and you was there up until October 1978, the placing authority being Dundee. And then finally we've got Cardross Park Assessment Centre in Cardross, and this was on the 19th of October 1978 up until June 1979, and the age being 15 to 16, place in our authority being Argyll and Bute. And this was before you was then released into the care of your sister, I believe. Yes, released to your sister. And from the chronology of The placement chronology, is that correct? [A 16:17]: Fantastic. I was in— I thought I was in Hargreaves Park for a few years because I went back to school at that place. [B 16:27]: So what, as a collective, you would have been in Calder House for It seems as though you would have been in Cowder House for the duration of like 3 and a half years to 4 years. [A 16:46]: Yeah, that's right. [B 16:47]: Fantastic. Okay, so now it's part 4, is the compact placement sheet. So being, um, how many questions? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So there'll be 12 questions I'll be asking you in relation to each institution. These questions will be repeated questions for each institutional care setting. All right, try to stick in a chronology of your first time within Calder House and you answer the questions in relevance to your first experience there, and then again for Balnahcraig School, and then I'll ask you the same questions again for your time specifically at Cardross Park, and then I'll ask the same 12 set of questions again for Rye Hostel And then finally, I'll ask you the same 12 questions again for the time at Cardross Park Assessment Centre. [A 17:42]: I cannae mind that Ryde hostel thing. I cannae mem— where was that? [B 17:47]: It was in Dunoon. [A 17:50]: Dunoon? I cannae memba that one. I dunno if that was the one that I ran away fae. I did run away fae one of them, cos the man slapped me. [B 18:04]: But I've got on file when you spoke to my colleague Leah that it was Cardross Park Assessment Centre where you was absconding, which means obviously running away. [A 18:17]: I was running away there too. [B 18:19]: That's understandable. If for any question, for any reason, if you're unsure of how to answer the question, if you just try to ask me to explain it in a bit more detail, I will provide you with the question again in a different wording. And also, if you just can't remember or you can't answer the question due to not remembering, that is fine. If you state that, we'll just move on to the next questions, okay? Okay. So this will be for your first SS— first institution being Calder House. Could you please confirm the institution name, the location, and the approximate dates and age of how old you were when you entered there and who placed you there? [A 19:10]: I thought I was in there when I was 13. They kept saying I was 14, but I don't know. So I thought I was put in when I was 13. So I don't know. So I must have been 14. If I'd been 14 then, I can't mind. But I can remember that the thing that's happened in there was atrocious, you know what I mean? Yeah, it was the two lasses that ran away, they were made to clean a barn out with toothbrush. I says, I get polishing a pair of boots right enough, but then there was the man was telling me to do a handstand and all that, and I knew that was wrong. So yeah, nothing like that happened to me, but I know that wasn't right, him saying that to me, do you know what I mean? Yeah, because I was just telling the woman the next day, I was telling all the women. [B 20:08]: Yes, we will move back to what you've just said very shortly because the following questions now will be in relation to obviously the things what you experienced within your time in care, so it will eventually be relevant soon. And so what type of setting was it at Calder House? [A 20:27]: I think it was 4-bedroom, I think. [B 20:34]: Sorry, say it again. [A 20:36]: 4-bedroom. [B 20:38]: A 4-kind room? [A 20:40]: A 4-bedroom. 4-bedroom. Yeah, I think. [B 20:47]: Yeah. And was this a residential school, an assessment centre? [A 20:51]: Assessment centre. That was assessment centre. [B 20:57]: And at your first time at Calder House, how long was you— for your time at Calder House, how long was you there for? [A 21:07]: I think 3 weeks, and then that's when I went to Dundee. [B 21:15]: Yeah, no problem. In a few sentences, Theresa. Could you kindly explain what ordinary day life was like at Calder House? And could you kindly describe the accommodation you were in, the routines of your day-to-day life, any school/work, food, clothing, hygiene, and how— if you had access to contact with your family? [A 21:47]: My mum and my dad used to come up and take me out to a cafe, but just out for about an hour. [B 22:07]: What was the accommodation like where you were staying? What was your bedroom like? [A 22:12]: It was like 40 a room, I think. [B 22:15]: 40 per room? [A 22:16]: 4 people per room. [B 22:18]: Sorry. Was the— what was the hygiene of the room like? Was it clean? [A 22:27]: It was clean, uh-huh. [B 22:30]: And was you provided any clothes? [A 22:32]: Ah, they were defective clothes. Ah yeah, people had already used it, wasn't it? Like new clothes and that. [B 22:42]: It was used clothes. [A 22:43]: It was used clothes. [B 22:46]: And what would you say the hygiene of the clothes like? Were they clean or were they dirty? [A 22:51]: They were dirty. [B 22:53]: Okay. What was your daily routine like at Calder House? [A 23:10]: I can't really mind much. [B 23:12]: That's fine. [A 23:15]: I know one of my friends, they came in, so they were out there working, bullying her, and I was sitting with her so that— I don't know, they weren't afraid to me, so I don't know if the two of us were getting bullied or not, so we sat in the room. She wouldn't have committed suicide. No, come on, my gran, that's it, the telegram. So they had to tell the teachers about the woman that was here. I don't think it was a good time I had done that, dear, right enough. [B 23:53]: That's fine. Just hold on one moment while I just catch up on the notes, Theresa. [A 23:57]: Right. [B 23:58]: Apologies. So moving on to the next question. How did staff and other children genuinely treat you? [A 24:10]: No, I was saying that they were bullying my friend, but I wasn't letting them. I was setting up for, you know what I mean? [B 24:18]: The children were bullying my friend. But the children didn't treat you that way? They didn't bully you? [A 24:33]: No, no, I'm glad they stuck up for us. [B 24:37]: That's tend to what happens with bullies though, isn't it? They don't like it when people stand up to them. [A 24:41]: No, no, they're afraid, aren't they? [B 24:53]: How did the staff treat you at Calder House? [A 25:00]: I think the staff were doing it to that kid, apart from that man. I think the staff, the other staff were all right. [B 25:11]: When you say apart from that man, can you remember his name at all? [A 25:15]: I can't, no, I can't remember his name. [B 25:18]: Is there any descriptive features that you remember at all? Uh, like, did he have any tattoos? [A 25:26]: A big man, just a big man. Fat man. That's what I can explain. Horrible face. Horrible looking face. I mean, quite a scary man. Yeah, I just can't remember his name. [B 25:48]: Yeah, that's fine. It was, um, sorry, there's some things that things can— did he have any, did he have any hair or anything like that? Did he have long or short hair? [A 26:00]: No, I think he was kind of bald, slightly bald. I mean, it'd be me being young and all, I didn't think it was an old man, if you know what I mean. [B 26:15]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. So the next question may be a bit distressing, so just try and answer it in the best way you possibly can. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 26:37]: Remember that, man? That's the boost. Hey, tell me, dear Hornstone, when I had a night yawn, do you know what I mean? [B 26:45]: Yeah, hold on one second. [A 26:51]: That's a red one. So that was neglect, I think, because I did tell the staff and I don't think they've done anything about it. [B 27:10]: Hold on one moment. Nothing was done about it. That's fine. Did you experience— looking back, did you experience anything that you'd now consider as physical or emotional abuse? [A 27:35]: Well, when he used to get me up in the morning, I was in the kitchen and I had to get my clothes on quick and put a cover over the keyhole. And then I would get out the door, and there'd be Doreen. She says, 'I was just coming to get you,' because they were all seeing the looks through the keyhole. [B 27:55]: One second. [A 27:57]: So I didn't think it was just me, it was other ones. I don't know what he was doing to them, the other ones. [B 28:02]: Friends. So yeah, he used to get you up early in the morning, you'd get your clothes on quickly, and that's because, um, he used to peep through the keyhole. [A 28:18]: So that'd be stressful, that'd be stressful in the morning. Yeah, get my clothes on and all that, mate. The thought of him just looking through that keyhole, I just put a housecoat up. I'm sure my hangar could take it, you know what I mean? [B 28:34]: Yeah, of course. This may— moving on to the next question. It may seem like these questions may seem like they're repeated, but try to answer them as best as your ability. And who was involved or responsible for the abuse that you endured at your time in Calder House? [A 29:04]: That would have been the workers, maybe. I don't know. Then there was used to be a room you could get in, so that would be the heat, like the hedge one. [B 29:22]: Sorry, say that again. [A 29:24]: It would be the hedge one, the room you'd get in, a room with a hedge in. [B 29:30]: A headroom, did you say? [A 29:31]: No, they were the head person. [B 29:34]: Head pressing. Aye. A head pressing room? [A 29:39]: No, no, the head worker. [B 29:48]: The head worker. [A 29:50]: Aye. You know how you would go to the staff room? [B 29:54]: Yeah. [A 29:54]: Well, they would have a staff room in their cell, so you would go to them. Get in, bother me or whatever. [B 30:05]: Yeah, were there any, um, apologies, hold on. And so the next question, try to take your time with answering the question. And if you would like to take a moment before answering the question, that is perfectly fine. Could you give one clear example of what happened? As in, sorry, could you give one clear example of the abuse that you were a victim to? Where and when did it occur? What happened before the abuse started, during the abuse, and afterwards? [A 30:54]: Well, me and my sister had run away, so— [B 30:58]: You had run away, sorry? [A 30:59]: No, no, two lasses had run away, and because I never told that they'd run away, I get punished for it too. So that's the punishment I got, to polish 20 pair of boots, and that's when the abuse started for them. [B 31:18]: So it started from them running away? [A 31:20]: Nice. [B 31:25]: And what happened, um, following you not telling them about the two girls running away? [A 31:33]: Well, I was with them. I was there. I was the one to go because I think I was getting it. I thought I was getting it. I think it was to go to another place. That was the one on Perth, I think. Yeah. [B 31:53]: So what happened after the staff found out that the girls had run away and that you hadn't mentioned that they did run away? [A 32:08]: Well, the staff was at the front, in the front inside, so we were at the back. I wasn't supposed to be looking after them. Yeah, that's what I said. I said I was— I never seen them disappearing. I thought they was at the front. I can't even remember the two lasses' names. [B 32:46]: Yeah, that's fine, don't worry about remembering their names. So you couldn't see them in the queue and they got away from the— [A 32:53]: Aye, but they got caught that night and was back. I never got to see them for a few days. I don't know if they get back, I don't know. As bad as it might be in the dead of the afternoon, I mean. [B 33:21]: Yeah. Can you tell me what happened? What if there's anything that happened to yourself in relation to any abuse, in your own words? [A 33:51]: Well, I think I'd class that as abuse. [B 33:55]: What, witnessing that? [A 33:57]: That bang. [B 33:59]: And there was anything else what happened to you while she was at Calder House? No, no, just the, the man. Yeah, okay, that's fine. Um, did this happen often? Um, was it over a specific period of time? [A 34:17]: Well, it was when I was doing the kitchen, so I was doing the kitchen for about a week and then it would be some days So I did that every morning, for every morning I got up to get ready and all that, and the stress of getting— going to get washed and come back and change and all that. [B 34:40]: Yeah, one second, I might just catch up on the notes. than it would have been someone else who was worried about getting up, washing, and getting dressed for kitchen duty. Did it ever change, or did it get— or did it become worse? [A 35:28]: It was just the same all the time, every day. [B 35:32]: Okay, no problem. [A 35:38]: But I would manage to get this and this now. [B 35:44]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 35:47]: I was distressed all the time, like getting up in the morning and all that to go to the kitchen, you know what I mean? [B 35:57]: Yeah. And did you experience any sleeping issues whilst you were at Calder House? Any bedwetting, any running away, or behaviour, or school changes? [A 36:25]: I just— just before the care home, I was stressed all the time. [B 36:31]: I just want to tell him Sorry, could you just repeat that for me, Theresa? [A 36:37]: I said I just wanted home, and that's how I never told the panel, or I never told them about my uncle because I would never get back to my mum and dad. That's what I thought. And Mandy had said to me, um, she says to me that I would get to jail if I told them what happened. And so I was like, well, I says, I cannae tell him, dude. I said, so I had that all in my head the whole time I was in the homes, you know what I mean? So I couldn't tell them anything that happened outside the house, outside, you know what I mean? [B 37:12]: Yeah, of course. [A 37:13]: So that, because I was too feared in case I wasn't gonna get out at all. [B 37:46]: So following on from your experience of being called a house, did anyone witness any the abuse that you experienced, or did they know about it or experience anything similar? [A 37:57]: Well, like, the two girls would know nothing, do you know what I mean? [B 38:04]: The two girls who ran away? [A 38:06]: Aye, the two girls that ran away plus more other girls in there would know about that man. You'd probably hear that to somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't remember his name on that. [B 38:24]: That's okay, don't worry about it, because when it comes to submitting your witness statement to the Scottish Redress Panel, other people who have been to call the house, they may have relayed a similar situation on bringing up this man. And if you— if the description what you gave me from what you remember, if it cooperates with somebody else's storey and they know the name, then be able to identify those the man's name was. [A 38:50]: Oh, I know. [B 38:51]: So it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's not too much of a big issue if you can't remember his name or not. [A 38:58]: Right, right. Well, the whole— if somebody else is saying that, they'll probably remember his name. I've just had that much in my head when I was young, do you know what I mean? That much going on that I just can't even remember his name. I didn't know he was— I never let him near me anyway. That's That's the main thing, you know what I mean? [B 39:18]: Yeah, you didn't let him near you. No. And so this is the next question, Theresa. Did you tell anyone or try to get any help while she was in the house? [A 39:47]: I had told them, I tell them about him doing that to me, but they never done anything about it because he was still there. [B 39:55]: And so in relation to you doing— you saying him doing that to you, is that referencing to him making you do a handstand outside? [A 40:05]: Uh-huh. I told them all that. I said I can't because I've not got any pants on. He says, well, do it. Polishing me boots. That was during the night. It was about 12 o'clock at night to 2 in the morning. [B 40:28]: He was outside for 2 hours with him? [A 40:30]: Uh-huh. To polish his boots. [B 40:34]: To polish his boots or yours? [A 40:35]: No, there was 20 pair of boots. Obviously everybody else's boots. I had to polish more. But I don't know if that punishment was for the lasses running away. I don't know. [B 40:56]: You don't know why you received that punishment? [A 40:59]: Aye. [B 41:00]: That's perfectly fine. Sorry to go back to it and to bring up these memories, but when you said that you had 20 pairs of boots that you needed to polish polish. Was this, um, did you polish the boots before or after he made you do the handstand? [A 41:19]: No, he tried to get me to do the handstand, but I wouldn't do it because I told him I had no pants on. And he tried to get me to do it, and I said, no, I'm not getting any pants on. But I think my nightie was see-through and all, do you know what I mean? So he would have known I never had any pants on. [B 41:36]: Yeah. One second. [A 41:50]: Oh, this is gnaehandant. [B 41:56]: It is, unfortunately. I don't know. So the next question would be, what was different at your placement at Calder House compared to the others? [A 42:21]: Oh, I didn't like Calder House. I didn't like any of them actually, apart from Cardris Park because I stayed there and went to school. [B 42:32]: Say that again for me, please, Theresa. [A 42:34]: Out of them all, I mean, I like Calderhurst Park. I went out to school. [B 42:39]: Oh, in Calderhurst Park. Okay, we'll, um, we'll get back to that one. We get right in Calderhurst Park. So that's the first institution, um, set of questions completed for Calderhurst. We're going to now move on to Balnah Craig School. Obviously, again, this is going to be— [A 42:57]: is that in care? [B 42:59]: Yes, that's correct. [A 43:00]: That's, that's when I get the slap for the teacher. [B 43:04]: Yeah, so, um, it'll be the same questions, uh, what I've just recently asked you, and this is specifically for your time at Balna Craig School, okay? No problem. So could you please confirm for me the institution's name, the location? For Balmer Craig School. [A 43:27]: I went to school there, I know. I think my school was in that building. Yeah, the school was in that building, I think. [B 43:40]: In which building? [A 43:41]: Whatever you call it. [B 43:45]: Okay, okay, that's fine. Um, do you remember the the approximate dates going to, um, Balnahcraig? [A 43:57]: No, I can't remember the dates when I went. [B 43:59]: Do you remember how old you was? [A 44:01]: I can't. Okay, I can remember going in when I went. They took me for new clothes. [B 44:08]: Yeah, we'll, um, once we've got any questions, we'll have that. Just hold on one moment. Sorry, Theresa. Can you remember who placed you there? [A 44:30]: My sister came with a social worker. I can't even remember his name. [B 44:34]: I know, no problem. Hold on. [A 44:38]: I can't even remember his name, the social worker's name. Was there a helmet chipped up when I said that? [B 44:55]: You can't remember his name? [A 44:57]: No, that would have been— oh God, it's a good while. Did she bring him or wave to my— [B 45:04]: I think to me I may have The name of this social worker, and I'm just gonna— it'll be surname, so it's just try and confirm to see if this is correct. Was this social worker, um, a J— J. Arnett? I don't know what the first name would be, but the last name is Arnett. [A 45:31]: James Arnett. [B 45:32]: You believe it's James Arnett? [A 45:34]: That might be, aye. [B 45:41]: That's fine. What type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 45:47]: It was okay. It was an olderish man. It had had it with his wife. [B 45:54]: Um, sorry, Theresa, it's not about James. Um, I said what type of setting was Balnahcraig? [A 46:02]: That was— I did have a room in my cell there. I think I did. I think I did room in my cell there. [B 46:12]: It was a residential school? Aye. And how long was you there, Father Eder? [A 46:21]: I wasn't there long because when I first went in, this lass, she flung me toast and I flung the toast back to her. And they went laughing to you, they thought that. But she was the— what would you call that? [B 46:38]: So you phoned it back to her? [A 46:40]: I phoned it back. I said, what are you doing that for? So I just phoned it back to her and they were all going like, oh, she'll kill you. And I said, well, I said, you help me, we ask for her hand back. I said, I'm not fit for Yeah, do you know what I mean? I had to stick up for myself. And, uh, but we were nearly never get a weekend that weekend, so they were— I was at the— but they were doing it at the train station, and that's when I ran away. I never went back, and I went back to that one. So I ran away through that school and ended up up at Aberdeen, and we skipped a train went to Johnstone, then went to Chapadour to first phone the police and tell them we'd run away because we were hiding for this lassie because she'd choked an old man. So I know why we were there, but it's because we were— it was one of the lassies was based at Johnstone that we ran away with, so we went to her back. So that was after he had slapped me and I got my dad on the phone, my dad, and tell my dad that he slapped me and that. [B 47:56]: So did the— did you get slapped following throwing the toast? [A 48:03]: No, no, no, that was another incident. That was in the morning when I first went in and she helped me with the toast. I went in to get my breakfast and she helped me with the toast and I helped back. Because I wasn't even then yet. [B 48:18]: Yeah, well, yeah, of course. We'll move on to the next question in relation to Balnahcraig. So in a few sentences, what was your ordinary daily life like at Balnahcraig? [A 48:36]: I think we used to get in the garden sometimes. There must have been swings or something there. There must have been a park or something that we went to. And then at the classroom, aye, the classroom was that when that man slapped my face. I don't know what for, he was a teagie and I was a hood. No, he was a hood and I was a teagie because I came from Lennoxtown. He was a hood because he came from Kirkcaldy and I came from Lennoxtown. So that's how far he was travelled, and it was Mr. Air. I remember his name. I remember his name. [B 49:17]: So, uh, what was your name, sorry, Theresa? [A 49:21]: Mr. Air. [B 49:22]: Mr. Air. [A 49:23]: We knew he was working for the school where I went to. [B 49:29]: Yeah, and was that— was that— is that Mr. Air as in like Ayrshire? [A 49:33]: No, that meant the man's name, Mr. Air. [B 49:36]: Yeah, yeah, I'm just wondering if it's like Mr. Air, is it spelled Is it spelled as like the town in Scotland, as Ayrshire, or just Mr. Ayr? [A 49:45]: Just Mr. Ayr. [B 49:47]: No problem, that's fine. Um, so it was Mr. Ayr who slapped you? Mm-hmm. [A 50:05]: What was, um, I phoned my dad and all that, my next-door neighbour, to tell my dad that he's slacking and that, and there's one here. But none of my dad could do right enough. But I went to the head teacher to tell him, and obviously he must have got into trouble about it because he knew about it, you know what I mean? [B 50:29]: Yeah. [A 50:44]: I think actually he ended up losing his job. [B 50:51]: Well, rightfully so. So, um, what was the— did you provide any clothing when you went to Balmacraig? [A 51:00]: Yes, they took me down the shops. They took me down the shops, bought me school uniform and clothes to wear. So that was over the moon. [B 51:20]: Were they clean clothes? [A 51:22]: They were brand new clothes, aye. So I was over the moon because I hadn't had that for a long time, do you know what I mean? [B 51:31]: Yeah. [A 51:37]: I thought it was my birthday. Last Christmas, I thought it was putting back all these clothes and that, you know what I mean? [B 51:45]: Yeah, of course, of course. Actually getting brand new clothes. [A 51:48]: That was the one. I actually liked that place, but if it wasn't for that man slapping me, we wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? [B 51:58]: Yeah. Was you, um, how was your contact like with your family in the school? Was it easily accessible to contact your family if you wanted to? [A 52:07]: Yes, aye, they let you phone. They let me phone if I asked. When I asked, nah, they let me phone my dad right away. I don't know what, but my dad was too happy and he's like, am I getting away up there then? And he's saying, put that man, yes, other man back on. He must have been saying, is my daughter going to be all right? And he says, I'll make sure she's all right and all that. Yeah, she'll be fine, do you know what I mean? But so, but we ended up running away. So I ended up going to Samson. [B 52:49]: How did the staff or other children genuinely treat you? [A 52:56]: They were alright. I think because I had stuck up for myself, they were kind of saving me, you know what I mean, because I'd stuck up. They were all waiting for me at the train station, so I managed to go on the train and I was saying, bye. It's okay. [B 53:25]: So when, when you said that they were all right, um, as you stuck up for yourself, I don't know what would have happened. And this was the staff you're referring to? Yeah. [A 53:39]: No, no, the people in this home, the children. [B 53:43]: The children, yeah. [A 53:48]: That lassie, I hopped back with the toes. They both sided with her when once they were doing the— when they were in the building, they were siding with me. The lassie came out, I don't know, she must have been— [B 54:03]: she was Yeah, how, how, um, how did the staff treat you generally? [A 54:12]: I think they were good, the staff, but all right, except, except obviously for the— yeah. [B 54:27]: Was, um, there any rules, specific rules What followed with any punishments, isolations, or unsafe arrangements? [A 54:41]: I don't know what the punishment is. I kind of mean that much. [B 54:45]: That's perfectly fine, don't worry. So the next question, again, this might come across as a bit distressing. Did anything happen to you there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 55:16]: And that abuse either be the boy hitting me, him hitting you, aye. [B 55:28]: And when the teacher hit you, I'm sorry to ask, was it, um, did he hit you with his hands? [A 55:37]: Oh, he slapped my face. And the other girl, it was years ago, I don't know if she did. He went like, I think he says to her, he says, no, you're too nice to slap. I think that life, he was gonna shoot in them, do you know what I mean? I wasn't shooting in them at all. [B 56:14]: She was what, sorry? [A 56:15]: She was like shooting in them kind of thing. I don't know what the real life she was doing, but she was kind of sitting in with him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but everybody was going to be doing, but he wasn't even going to be doing it with me anyway, do you know what I mean? So I don't know if that'd be allowed if it was abused or not. [B 56:35]: That's fine. So, and that was in relation to physical abuse. Looking back, would you say that you was a victim of any emotional abuse or any neglect? [A 56:55]: No, just the fact that we ended up running away. I didn't want to go back there. That was one thing, I didn't want to go back. Yeah. It's quite stressful, looking at me back all these years, isn't it? [B 57:29]: Yeah, um, of course we don't want to obviously, um, cause you too much distress when we're taking the statement, but we do need to try to be as meticulous as possible. I'm gonna try not to intrude on too many questions that might be a bit too distressing. I'll only ask if it's necessary. So, so far we've got that you did suffer some physical abuse and that was being hit by the teacher. He hit you with his hands. He slapped you across the face and the other girl who saw it happen, he told her that she was too nice to slap. And after you ran away, you didn't want to go back. [A 58:10]: I think that's when I went up to the other place, eh, when they caught me. Yeah, it was my mum and my sister that caught me and took me to the police station. I'm actually in that house now. I'm actually in that now as a house. That is, that is the cop shop where I first came in. You know what I'm saying? But even the police just think you're spoiled, you're a spoiled girl. [B 58:41]: So just to confirm, that was the teacher, was Mr. R, is that right? [A 58:46]: Mr. R, aha. [B 58:48]: Yeah, and do you know if there's any other children who may have, who were there, who may have remembered it at all? [A 58:54]: I don't know, I don't know. A lot of the class saw it. [B 59:06]: But they all saw it in the classroom. [A 59:07]: I don't know if it somehow— I don't know if it got expelled or whatever, you know what I mean, because all the children did see it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know really what happened to you. [B 59:21]: Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. And how often— I know this might sound a bit silly considering that was the only time you experienced any abuse when you was in this setting, but how often did this happen, over what period, and did it change or become worse? [A 59:39]: Well, I just left. I ran away. That same day, we was planning to run away, me and these other two lassies. [B 59:56]: It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back, really, in and deciding whether to run away that day then, isn't it? Aye. So the next— [A 60:05]: I probably wouldn't have done it if he hadn't slapped me. I wouldn't have run away, do you know what I mean? And we even hatched it up to Aberdeen to get the train. We could have been took away or anything. Yeah, you don't think of that at the time, do you know what I mean? [B 60:20]: No, of course not. [A 60:21]: And then we skipped the train and all. I thought I was going to get into trouble for that too. Do you know what I mean? But you just— we just wanted away for them. [B 60:31]: Of course, it's completely— [A 60:33]: I mean, the lashes— I'm trying to even remember their names in a canny because we stayed in a house one night and it was broken, and we did a toast and egg the next day, and you know, the egg was black. [B 60:48]: Yeah. [A 60:48]: Oh, I said, oh my God, I said, I said, I was so hungry, I ate it. I can name that. [B 60:56]: So we're moving on to the next question. Sorry, Theresa, go on. [A 61:02]: I see, it's just, I just commit my, command my head to make that ache. [B 61:09]: So then anyway, so the next question, Theresa, would be what immediate effects did you experience when this incident occurred? Was there any pain/injury, any fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour, or school changes? [A 61:29]: Just running away. [B 61:31]: No problem. Did anyone witness it, know about it, or experience something? [A 61:40]: I just can't remember their names, but hopefully they're to end it all because they'll probably tell you I'm an whore. Yeah, I mean, did anyone— [B 62:00]: did you tell anyone or try to get help when, when the incident occurred? [A 62:10]: I went right into the headmaster. [B 62:18]: And what did the headmaster say in response? [A 62:23]: He let me phone my dad. [B 62:27]: And what else did he do? [A 62:32]: I'm trying to think. I don't know if you get how I meant the office, and he says, well, you can't even see, we never slapped her. Look at her face, my face was pure red. With a slap, do you know what I mean? So he was trying to deny the fact that he'd slapped me, but I says the full class has seen it. So he's sitting trying to deny it in front of— right in front of me. I says, no, he did slap me. I says, look, how do you think my face got like that? I think it ended up black and blue with a slap I got, but I did report him. [B 63:05]: So yeah, one moment. [A 63:19]: I don't know if he gets sent home. I don't know if he gets sent home that day, no, because the headmaster was saying that nothing will happen to her again, she'll be fine. And he was telling you this, or was telling you, uh, yeah, then you know I was going to run away. So then I never seen them again. [B 63:49]: So the headmaster told you that it wouldn't happen again and you'd be safe there? [A 63:53]: Yeah. [B 64:02]: So the final question in relation to Balnah Craig, um, care setting: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 64:12]: I was allowed to go out. Aye, whenever, you know, like, go a walk. It was just round about the buildings right enough, but you were allowed to. So Whereas when you were in the other places, you were locked in. You couldn't just walk out when you wanted to, you know what I mean? [B 64:34]: So there were like no locked doors? [A 64:37]: Ah, the doors were locked. [B 64:39]: What, in Balna Craig? [A 64:40]: Oh no, no. [B 64:42]: Yeah. [A 64:42]: Even the locked doors, no. [B 64:48]: And you was free to roam the premises? [A 64:52]: Aye. [B 64:52]: That's perfectly fine. Fantastic. So that concludes the Balnahcraig assessment. So now we're going to be moving on to your next assessment home, which we got here for being Cardross Park. But this will be the first time that you went to Cardross Park, on November 1977, age 14. So just give me one second. [A 65:18]: I've run away from here a few times and all, but I kept getting caught. [B 65:22]: Yeah, no worries. Just, um, hold on one moment. Do you know who placed you into Cardross Park? [A 66:00]: Not— [B 66:01]: no. [A 66:02]: Okay. I think it was Belinda, and I think she's left now. No, Belinda, oh, what's that woman's name? Oh, she came to camsis, she was a social worker. [B 66:24]: There was a social worker? [A 66:25]: A social worker, aye, I think it was a social worker, didn't it? [B 66:37]: You remember a social worker taking you for the first time? Do you remember her name? [A 66:43]: That's something to think, eh. Miss Blonde— Miss Blunder, I think it was. Miss Blunder. You'll have that name. She was a social worker in Turkey, but she came for cancer. [B 67:05]: So you believe it was Miss Belinda? [A 67:07]: Miss Belinda. [B 67:10]: No problem. One second, Theresa. So what type of— what type of setting was Cardross Park? [A 67:19]: It was full of them. [B 67:23]: As in, was there a, um, like a residential school? Was it an assessment centre? Was, uh, was it just a children's assessments home? [A 67:31]: I think it was just assessment centre for 3 weeks. You're only supposed to be in, but I think they kept me in for a couple of years and I went out to school. [B 67:42]: So it was an assessment centre, and how long was you there for? [A 67:45]: About 3 years, I'm sure. [B 67:50]: For your first time round, do you think you was there for 3 years? [A 67:53]: Aye. [B 67:58]: Okay, in a few sentences, what was ordinary daily life like at Cardross Park? [A 68:09]: Well, we used to do boxing. [B 68:12]: Sorry, say that again. [A 68:13]: We used to do boxing. [B 68:15]: You used to do boxing? [A 68:16]: Uh-huh. So I'm used to box. I was the best boxer. [B 68:26]: You was the best at boxing? [A 68:28]: Yes, me and my box. As soon as somebody hopped me, that was me. I was, I was gonna have me in. I think that was— I don't think that was— they should have waited to do that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it was just time just to give something to do. I mean, but everybody was— they were all saying, 'I'll take her on, I'll take her on.' But there was one Miss, they were stringing back out, which is naughty, nuts. [B 69:05]: Do you remember what your accommodation was like at Cardross? [A 69:11]: 4 in a room. [B 69:12]: I was It was 4 to 1. [A 69:15]: And if I was naughty, I'd have been in a room itself. And they says they were going to take all my clothes off. [B 69:24]: So if you was naughty, you'd be placed into a room by yourself? [A 69:29]: Aha, I was placed in it. And they were going to take my clothes off of me when they stood up open and shut the door. I says, aye, that'll be right, you'se not taking my clothes off. That's not right. I do doubt I'll be getting the police. [B 69:49]: So moving on to, uh, apologies, what was, uh, did they provide you any clothing when you first went into Cardwell? [A 69:56]: That was just the clothes that was there. Other people had been in them. [B 70:07]: And would you say the clothes were, um, hygienic in any way? [A 70:11]: Oh, uh, they weren't. They were all right. They were all the same. That was the thing. [B 70:24]: They were all the same. That's fine. And what was, um, the food like at the assessment centre? [A 70:34]: As far as I know, Anne used to work in the kitchen doing the dishes and that. [B 70:45]: And was she able to contact your family freely? Was it accessible to you? [A 70:52]: No, not really. I'd sat there waiting for my family to come and visit me and they never came. They would say they would come for the hankin' to keep me there for a wee while, and then they started letting me go at weekends. So I got a job when I was out. So that's the man wrote a letter to Camp Siglain, it was burnt down years from here, that he was giving me a job as soon as I came out. So that's go up now, Amy. So is there anything— [B 71:27]: so I just put that, um, he was unable to contact your family, um, and when you— and when you did, you would sit waiting for them and they wouldn't— they never came. So you then got, um, work on a weekend, which was— which was then the reason as to why you was able to leave early, right? How did the others— how did staff and other children generally treat you while you were at Cardross Centre? [A 72:01]: Well, all right, apart from this woman I didn't really like, she didn't like me. I don't know if she liked me or I didn't like her, I don't know. [B 72:09]: Is this another child or a staff member? [A 72:11]: No, a staff member. She didn't— we get 4 flags a day and every day she was on she stroked my 4 flags. Sorry, I was cheeky. [B 72:22]: Okay, would you just repeat that again for me please? [A 72:26]: I think I was cheeky to her, or she would annoy me, or I would annoy her, and vice versa. So then she would just stop my fags. So I would just get into the office and get a fag after the teacher. Or their manager, whatever. [B 72:47]: So, who would take my— and were there any rules, uh, were any specific rules which were, um, enforced by the members of staff? And did it follow any punishments or isolation or unsafe arrangements? [A 73:14]: Well, the punishment would be stroke your fag. Eh, what else would they do? You wouldn't get your weekends at home either. [B 73:24]: Sorry, sorry to bring you back to reason, but you say the punishments would be that they'd stroke your fag? [A 73:31]: Aye. [B 73:32]: As in steal your cigarettes? [A 73:34]: They don't take it, no, they wouldn't give you fags. [B 73:36]: Oh. [A 73:43]: That was the punishment, but that only made me worse. Could you only go 4 times a day? So I suffered it for a gadroo half every day. [B 73:55]: So you only got 4 a day. Was isolation used as punishment at all? [A 74:03]: I'd just been put in that room. That was on my isolation ago. [B 74:14]: Is that when you was put in the room and they threatened to take your clothes off? Aye. It's going to be difficult to answer and also to ask this question, Theresa. However, was they— did they ever actually take your clothes off at any point? No. When you was in that room? [A 74:43]: Okay, no, no, no problem. No, I wouldn't know it. [B 74:52]: I know this is going to sound like a repeated question coming from what you've already expressed, but while from your time at Cardross Park, for the, um, for Cardross, for the first time of you being there, did you experience, did you, did you suffer from any abuse, neglect, or any harmful actions? [A 75:23]: No, I don't think so. The headmaster was really good to me, I didn't want to get sent to him. [B 75:32]: Yeah. [A 75:33]: It wasn't a rotten wee man or anything like that, do you know what I mean? But I think that's how I went into him because I knew he would be easy to mouth ague. So I'd get a punishment, he'd start fagging in again, he would give me a bag. Yeah, I think it was just to calm me down or whatever, you know what I mean? [B 75:59]: Yeah, more than likely it seems. [A 76:01]: Okay, just to calm me down a wee bit. [B 76:04]: Okay, so just going back from what you said previously, so I'm just looking over, so Do you know, um, who was ever involved or responsible at the time where you was isolated and told, um, to take the clothes what you were wearing off? [A 76:36]: Well, the room I was in, I think my roommates would have heard them. Saying that to me. Okay, hold on, because it was a room next to it. So I don't know, it might have happened to other people as well. I don't know. [B 77:25]: So when, um, as you mentioned that you used to do boxing when you was there and you was 13, um, was that something what was, um, that was enforced upon you to do, or is it something that you willingly would, um, participate in? [A 77:41]: I would, I would volunteer, but because that's all we had to do. [B 77:46]: Yeah, okay, that's fine. I've then got Sarah's posh after, and that was a couple of months later. Okay. And then I've got Rosanna Lucas. 1994. Does that sound about right to you? [A 78:06]: No, I never said that. I asked her before that. She went, did you take your clothes off? I went, no, she never asked me that. She's listening in, but she's obviously shocked with some of the things I'm saying. [B 78:24]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:25]: You know, I mean, because I've obviously failed them Maybe not as much, but I felt good, you know what I mean? [B 78:32]: Yeah, of course. [A 78:34]: Obviously affected me through the years, you know what I mean? [B 78:38]: Of course, yeah. I've got on the file that you're willing for your daughter to provide you with a witness statement, is that correct? [A 78:46]: Yes, yes. [B 78:47]: Yeah, that's fine. I'll be able to give your daughter a call following our telephone call today anyway, and she'll be able to provide us with a witness statement. I remember at the beginning, uh, when we started talking about Balnakree, you mentioned that you kept, um, you get getting caught for absconding, do you know, for running away. And could you try to remember at least one of the times you ran away, um, what the reasons for running away? [A 79:14]: That day that I get slapped for that teacher? [B 79:21]: No, in Cardross Park, um, Balnakree. [A 79:25]: Oh, in Cardross Park. Fact, oh, I don't know, I was in the hospital, I just said I'm going away. No, I never said I was going away. I mean, I come back for my weekend and I was going out to school on the Monday morning and I go on the train and I just come straight to cancer. I went straight to cancer and then they got me back, but then someone must have found that I've run out and I ran away and then they got the police to go looking for me. So then the police would try to catch me, but I was holding on to a wire, wire, yeah, for hanging. So they would stop and tie me and once they went back into the motor, I would move again and run away again and hold on to the wire when they came out. So they were beginning to say, they just lung me right in the back of the van. Yeah, because they say they got me, do you know what I mean? So that would be the police in St. Barton or whatever, Cadres, whatever. I don't know where the police would have came from. Yeah, they'd probably remember that, John and Anthony, whatever. [B 80:36]: I'm going to now ask you to try and recall in detail what happened where and when it occurred, what happened before the incident occurred and during, after, in relation to you being isolated from your roommates and asked to take the clothes, what you were wearing off. And so when that night, when that incident occurred, what was happening before the staff members came in and took you away? [A 81:11]: I really can't, I think we were all carrying on. [B 81:16]: You were all carrying on? Aye. As in like just doing your normal business? [A 81:19]: The first time I came in, that's just when they shot up, probably. So they put me in and out of your room, but then I kept opening and shutting the door and then asking if they was taking my clothes off. I says, no, you will not be taking my clothes off because you're not allowed to take my clothes off. [B 81:35]: That's what you're doing. Room, and you kept opening and closing the door when you got into this room? [A 81:42]: Was that kind of— [B 81:43]: okay, so he was opening and closing the door in like retaliation kind of manner? [A 82:05]: Yeah, they opened it. [B 82:07]: So they locked the door first and then they opened it? [A 82:11]: They're doing it because I'm in a stroke unit. [B 82:16]: So after they locked— so did they, um, try to get you to take your clothes off before they locked the door? [A 82:22]: No, they just said that they would come in and take my clothes off. I said no, you don't know. It's exactly that. I was greeting him to Auntie Janine, but because I was too— I was, wow, what do you want to take my clothes off for? Do you know what I mean? I wasn't too sure. [B 82:43]: Yeah, it is a peculiar thing to ask a child. [A 82:47]: I know. [B 82:55]: Do you remember anything what happened after this? So after the asked you to take your clothes off, and obviously you told them no. Did anything follow up from that? [A 83:05]: Oh no, I think they put me back into my room. [B 83:16]: What, after a couple of hours of isolation? [A 83:21]: Aye, and I'd calmed down a wee bit. Because I was stressed over things. [B 83:40]: And how often did this happen? Over what time period? And did it change or become worse? [A 83:48]: Oh, it came— we ended up with nothing. They grew us a netting class I knitted about 20 hats and a big jumper for a man, and they took my flannel. [B 84:02]: You did 20 hats and you did a flannel? [A 84:06]: A jumper for a man. [B 84:08]: Jumper, sorry. [A 84:09]: Aye. I was a good knitter. So they say, she's got a talent there somewhere, but she just no use it. [B 84:35]: So you'd say after that incident, um, once she was returned back to your own room, um, Nothing became worse following that? That was probably— [A 84:50]: Oh no, just, just, I knew then, I felt, I'm looking back now, he's run right into my car. I tell all the lassies, he's run right into my cousin's. They says, what for? I says, I don't know. I says, I still run you in. [B 85:13]: What immediate effects did you experience? [A 85:15]: I don't know, I just, I don't know, I just, I just knew it wasn't right, do you know what I mean? I said, he's not allowed to do that, see me. [B 85:28]: Was you experiencing any fear or shame when, um, when they were— [A 85:33]: well, I mean, actually been told this, the governor the next day. I told them about it just because I was stressed, but he always gave me a fag to calm me down. But you see, as he went, he went, they wouldn't have took their clothes off. They probably just did that to calm me down. So there was nothing there, went to that. I think I had had to drink a I went into the office very often. [B 86:08]: Did you experience any sleeping problems whilst you was at Cartridge? [A 86:14]: Oh, there was a spider. Oh, in fact, do you know what, that was her. It was a spider that was in the room. [B 86:19]: A spider? [A 86:20]: A spider was in the room. They wouldn't come in and get her. [B 86:23]: They wouldn't come in and get her? [A 86:25]: No, they were probably feetsie, I know. So I'm scared of vipers, spiders now. [B 86:57]: Did anyone else, uh, did anyone witness this and know about it or experience something similar? [A 87:04]: I don't know, they may have experienced something like, I don't know. There was a few of them put in that room, mate, enough at one point, but I don't know. Then happened to the money, I don't know. It just frightened me when that was over. [B 87:45]: Did you tell anyone or try to get help? [A 87:50]: Yes, as if you didn't drink the whole fist in the morning. [B 87:58]: And who did you speak to? [A 88:00]: The man that owned the place. [B 88:07]: And what response did you receive? [A 88:12]: Um, he was a bit nasty. It was all been a case 'You alright?' and that. Then he gave me a fag and I was alright. I says, 'I'm conditioned to give a fag to a fag from me.' Every time I get one, I spoke to him and he gave me one. It was brand new, but I used to go to school and his daughter was there as well. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember, I'm trying to think of his name. He was so often nice. It was nice enough, you know what I mean? [B 88:48]: Yeah. [A 88:49]: I just can't remember his name. [B 88:53]: That's perfectly fine. [A 88:58]: But he was all right. He never was neither bad or anything like that to me. Yeah, that was good to hear. Oh yeah, I think I saw a psychologist came in and they were asking me these 250 questions, but I just flung the paper at them. I don't know who got that to come in, but they got that psychologist and I just flung the paper at them. I'm no raving or that rubbish. I didn't know half of the things it was asking me, do you know what I mean? It was just to see that— I says, I'm not answering your questions. And I just walked to the office and I says, I was then telling them, I says, oh, it was asking me all these questions what would do when I went to a party. I says, I'm not allowed to go to a party. [B 89:57]: Yeah. [A 89:58]: So how can I answer it, do you know what I mean? I says, I thought they were going to put my nan in a bin because of my mum. So, um, you know what I mean? I was like, no. [B 90:09]: Yeah, you can't answer something what you don't know the answer to, do you really? [A 90:12]: Yeah, I mean, aye. [B 90:13]: Of course. So this is— [A 90:15]: sorry, I knew my mum was no well in that, but I thought, oh God, they're going to put me in a place. You know, I remember that about hospital or something. I don't know. I've got— you know what I mean? [B 90:26]: Yeah. So the final question in relation to the Cardross Park Assessment Centre for your first visit: what was different at this placement compared to the others? [A 91:05]: They must have been nice to me, but some of them weren't there. Obviously that woman I didn't like, and she came with that, so I'd probably run away the day she's come on because she'd just stroke my fags anyway. I'd just run away in there to get the poor They get the police to bring you back. Aye. [B 91:35]: That's fine. So that concludes the questions in relation to your first placement at Cardross Park. The next one will be for the Rye Hill Hostel in Dunoon. I remember you saying that you don't fully remember this placement, so just try to answer each question as you can. [A 91:55]: I think we went to school there. [B 91:58]: You think you went to school there? [A 91:59]: Aye, so I think it was run by the Christians, and they were taking me to the church, and my mum phoned up and she said no, she needs to go to chapel. So the lady was said to take me to chapel, She says, oh, Mum, I don't like me going to chapel. I says, well, I'm a Catholic, so I'm going to chapel. I ended up, I went to the church. The woman was like, she says, if my man finds out, he'll not be happy. [B 92:34]: Yeah, so it was Rye Hill Hospital. Do you remember the location? [A 92:44]: Dundee, was it? Was that Dundee? [B 92:51]: Aye. Yeah, Dundee, Dunoon. [A 92:54]: Aye, I went out to school there. [B 92:56]: Do you remember how old you were when you went to there? Sorry. [A 92:59]: Oh no, wait a minute. Aye, I did go to school at that one and all, because I was thinking the one in Kidross, I went out to school there. And I used to go up, one of the women, she used to give me some fags and that and give me money to get my thing, Miss Theresa Sinclair. [B 93:20]: What type of setting was it at Ryhill? [A 93:25]: Do you know, I can't even mind much of that, that one. I don't think I was in that long. [B 93:31]: You don't think you was in there long? [A 93:32]: No, I don't think so. I don't know if that's when my sister never got married or mine or whatever. [B 93:45]: Uh, what we have is that you went to, uh, Ryhill— you went to this Ryhill institution, um, and then you went to Cardross Park, and then you was in Cardross Park for just a little over 7 months. Well, once I went there after they had watched me, then Yeah, so, um, just in relation to Rye Hospital, Dundee, do you remember how old you were when you went there? [A 94:09]: I can't remember much about that one. [B 94:11]: Yeah, that's fine. Remember, these questions are all in relation to Rye Hospital. If you can't remember, you can't remember. Don't worry too much. In a few sentences, are you able to recall what your ordinary day life was like at Ryehill Hostel? [A 94:45]: I think it was, sorry, going to school, getting up to school. Now I can't even mean— I can't even remember the surroundings of the rooms that I'm at. With the situation, whether I just kind of get that through my head. Yeah, I might come in here, but it's just not appealing enough. I think if that much happened, I think I could write a book, you know what I mean? [B 95:13]: Yeah. So you just can't, you can't remember the surroundings? [A 95:16]: I just can't remember that one. [B 95:18]: It's obviously— Do you remember how the staff and the other children treated you when you was here? [A 95:23]: No, I can't even That's fine. [B 95:30]: Do you know, looking back for your time at Ryeh Hospital, if you considered that you were victim to any form of abuse, neglect, or any harmful situations? [A 95:46]: No, I know, you know, I can't even mind that much yet at all. [B 95:50]: That's fine. [A 95:51]: So you I don't really know how long I was in there, so I don't really know. [B 96:00]: That's fine. [A 96:11]: It must have been all right in that place for me, but I don't think that was a long-term place. You know what I mean? [B 96:26]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Did you suffer any immediate effects, um, during your time at Ryhill Hospital? So did you experience any pain or injury, any fear or shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away behaviour? [A 97:02]: I can't remember anything. That one, honestly, that's fine. It's just a total blank. [B 97:14]: That's fine. [A 97:14]: So I know I was in somewhere up there, but I just can't— I mean, getting out to the school, and one time there was an incident in the school. I can't remember what happened, but I think the police came or something like that. I can mind of that, but that's all I can mind of at the moment. It was somebody's birthday or something like that, and I think we probably ignored that. I think it was someone else. But for anything else, I can't even mind that actually staying in that place. Yeah, it's just a total blank. I don't know. [B 98:05]: Yeah, that's perfectly fine, don't worry. Obviously these new childhood experiences and what you've been through though will cause these moments to have a bit of a foggy brain, anything like that. So obviously if you can't remember, and you— that's you answering to the best of your ability and being as honest as possible, so don't worry about it. So then Considering the circumstances in relation to Ryhill Hospital, we'll then move on to the final care setting in which you were at, being the second placement at Cardross Park again. So one second. [A 98:51]: I went to that place, I've only been in that a night, and I went back to Cardross Park. Yeah, because I've went to the Cardross Park. That's how I can't remember much about it. [B 99:09]: From what we got on file is that you was, um, that you entered Cardross Park on June 13th, 1978, and it was until— it was till the 6th— it was until June 1979, just before you ended up being released with your sister, right? [A 99:27]: Right. So I think I was only in there a week, maybe, at the most. I don't know how long I was in there, um, because I just don't seem to mind the place. [B 99:39]: Yeah, do you remember? [A 99:41]: I can't even remember that one for some reason. [B 99:44]: It's okay, don't worry about it. So this is the next following questions again. Are in relation to your second admission into Cardross Park. Do you recall how long you were there for in your second admission to Cardross? [A 100:05]: A couple of years, because you were only allowed— they were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but they says I was that good that they kept me. And let me go to school. [B 100:19]: You were supposed to be there for 6 weeks, but what happened? [A 100:21]: Sorry, they kept me because— and let me go to school. I'm now at an all-girls school in Dunbarton. [B 100:34]: That's fine. In a few sentences, what was ordinary day life like? On your second admission to Cardwell Park Assessment Centre? [A 100:45]: Oh, right, because I went to the school and I might have just been, you know, meeting that woman up at dinner time and she gave me bags and money for my dinner, my lunch. That already had something we made, you know what I mean? She was just telling— she's just gonna have to go to a training team, I think. I think one of the women had wanted to take me home with them, but she wasn't allowed. So I said, that wasn't that bad, you know what I mean? [B 101:21]: Yeah. [A 101:22]: And this is— oh, you can't go if you're not allowed to take— but that's not allowed. [B 101:27]: Has him wanted to take you home? Is he like wanted to like adopt you full time? [A 101:31]: I don't know what happened, but she was wanting to keep me in there. [B 101:36]: No problem. [A 101:37]: Thank you, Bill. It's already funny. Actually, you know, there was more to that with how I was angry and I couldn't talk about things, do you know what I mean? I had to keep all that in, but my uncle knew that. I didn't want to even speak about it. I didn't like, because I didn't know what would happen, do you know what I mean? [B 101:59]: Yeah. [A 102:00]: So, and Manny says that he would take it to jail, but it ended up in the end up that he died before he even went to court. And they came to me when I was 37 years old, and I says, well, I could have told them when I was 13, 14. I said about him, and I says, and I says, she tellt me nothin'. I says, I blame her, which I did. I always blamed her because she never— she tellt me nothin'. And he would get to jail, do you know what I mean? And me at that age, I didn't know that. No, tell him to— yeah, you know what I mean? She was an adult and I was a wee'un. It was my pals that I'd tell about it, and they were older than me, so they took me up to Ruth to tell her that they knew. And they went, well, shut your sail, you can tell the police if you want, but Uncle Jim's going to go to the jail. I says, right, well, I'm not bothered, I'm the one who asked him. But he done it to a few in my family, so it was a— but he died before it would get to court or anything like that, then happened, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it was because it was my mum's brother and all that, wouldn't it have helped? I mean, I don't know if anything happened to her as well when she was younger, do you know what I mean? That was her brother, so I don't know. [B 103:53]: How did the staff and other children genuinely treat you on your second admission to Cardross Park Assessment Centre? [A 104:01]: I went to school and then I was away at the weekends at my wee work, my wee job I done at the, doing the dishes and that at Campsie Glen. So it was, and I'd go to him at the weekends you know what I mean? [B 104:20]: Yeah. [A 104:21]: So I couldn't tell them about my uncle as it is because I would never allowed to bring a load to him. So that's how I kept it all quiet. Oh, but that— see that other place, which was the name? Ah, so the one in Aberdeen, they were— I had to show them my towel, eh, that I had my period. That was it. That was another thing for back then. It's just come into my head and I says, I need to show you. Why do I need to show you? That they had put me on the pill or something. No, in fact, I think that was that one and that one. Yeah, but I had to show my towel anyway. But I says, I ended up eventually done it. I had to show them it. [B 105:15]: Yeah, yeah, of course. The next, the next question in relation to your second admission in Cardras Park Assessment Centre, um, as I've asked previously, did anything happen there that you now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful? [A 105:33]: No. No, no, I think that's— Oh, they had a wee parrot and I was saying the F word and it started saying it. [B 105:46]: Say that again. [A 105:48]: They had a wee parrot and it kept doing the stairs when I was polishing the stairs, eh, and used to go F, F-U-C-K, to the wee parrot and the parrot started saying it. So I think I was a wee babbo, you know. [B 106:26]: What would you say the difference— what was the difference at this placement compared to your placement at the other settings? So this is in relation— [A 106:37]: a lot better. [B 106:38]: It was a lot better the second time around. [A 106:41]: Yes, yes. Is it? They all knew me then. [B 106:47]: Say that again. They all knew you? [A 106:51]: They all knew me. [B 106:52]: Aye, aye. Right, I do apologise. [A 106:53]: I even go in with that woman I didn't like either, previous days. She did it with just it. I don't know, I don't know what she did. I don't know what happened to us, but we were all right after that, the second time. [B 107:09]: She wasn't there anymore when you went for the second time? [A 107:12]: Oh, maybe she was. [B 107:18]: Okay, so that now has concluded the Section 4 of the statement being the compact placement sheet. Next, going to move on to the 6th part of being people involved, reporting, and institutional knowledge. So across all the placements, Theresa, who were the main people responsible? So are you able to recall any names, nicknames, names, the roles of these people, the descriptions, or any identifying details? [A 107:55]: No. [B 107:56]: No, you're unable to recall? [A 108:01]: No, I'm trying to remember that, man. I'm used to getting it, and now it's just— it's not coming to me at all. I don't know if I remember. I could phone, like, you know, but I just can't even I kind of get it. Could I get a wee break? You know, go to the toilet? [B 108:20]: Yeah, of course. [A 108:21]: You'll be back in about 5-10 minutes? [B 108:24]: Yeah, of course. We'll be nearly finished, so it won't be as long when I ring you the next time. Okay. [A 108:28]: All right, thanks. Thank you. 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/home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure)) #2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array) #3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array) #4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection)) #5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array) #6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle() #7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}() #8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure)) #9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure)) #10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL) #11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array) #12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob)) #13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob)) #14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false) #16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob)) #17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob)) #18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob)) #20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array) #21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire() #22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default') #26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle() #27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}() #28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure)) #29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure)) #30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL) #31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array) #32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput)) #40 {main} [previous exception] [object] (PDOException(code: 22001): SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php:609) [stacktrace] #0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(609): PDOStatement->execute() #1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(827): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->{closure:Illuminate\\Database\\Connection::affectingStatement():597}('update `synapse...', Array) #2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure)) #3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure)) #4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array) #5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array) #6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection)) #7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array) #8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle() #9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}() #10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure)) #11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure)) #12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL) #13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array) #14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob)) #15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob)) #16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false) #18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob)) #19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob)) #20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob)) #22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array) #23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire() #24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default') #28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle() #29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}() #30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure)) #31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure)) #32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL) #33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array) #34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput)) #42 {main} "} [2026-08-11 16:35:03] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA4f17602518562adb16a309940b4c61ec","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5221"} [2026-08-11 16:35:03] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":5221,"CallSid":"CA4f17602518562adb16a309940b4c61ec","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA4f17602518562adb16a309940b4c61ec","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"5221"}} [2026-08-11 16:35:43] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3634 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 16:35:43] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3634 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 16:35:43] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3634. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 16:35:44] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 3634 [2026-08-11 16:35:55] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3635 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 16:35:55] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3635 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 16:35:56] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3635. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 16:35:56] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: recording 3635 marked 'initial' by agent disposition; skipping classifier. [2026-08-11 16:36:09] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16597 classified as 'generic' (high). [2026-08-11 16:36:36] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: scorer returned for recording 3635. {"total_score":62,"risk_rating":"high_risk","has_sections":true} [2026-08-11 16:38:11] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 16597 (client 1254, 1 handler(s)). [2026-08-11 16:38:19] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 16592 (client 1139, 1 handler(s)). [2026-08-11 16:38:31] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11080 (sectra-logo.png) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 16:38:35] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16598 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 16:38:36] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16598 — dsar_ref='', inst_ref='REF: 100004'. [2026-08-11 16:38:45] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16598 — AI matcher dsar_id=571, confidence=high. [2026-08-11 16:38:45] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16598 linked to DSAR 571. [2026-08-11 16:38:45] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: saved receiver_reference 'REF: 100004' for DSAR 571. [2026-08-11 16:38:47] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16598 response_type=portal_response. [2026-08-11 16:38:47] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16598 → triage_queue=portal_response (response_type=portal_response, dsar_id=571). [2026-08-11 16:41:39] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 16:41:49] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 16:42:40] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 16:42:47] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 16:42:49] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16600 classified as 'generic' (high). [2026-08-11 16:42:58] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 16:43:09] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 16:43:12] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 16:43:16] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 16:43:31] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16601 classified as 'generic' (high). [2026-08-11 16:43:41] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 16600 (client 1254, 1 handler(s)). [2026-08-11 16:43:57] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 16601 (client 1125, 1 handler(s)). [2026-08-11 16:44:56] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16602 classified as 'generic' (medium). [2026-08-11 16:45:12] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 16602 (client 1125, 1 handler(s)). [2026-08-11 16:45:19] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":null,"resolved_phone_number_id":null,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} [2026-08-11 16:45:23] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} [2026-08-11 16:46:29] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} [2026-08-11 16:46:40] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 16:46:49] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} [2026-08-11 16:47:19] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 3636 → AssemblyAI e6c0c834-1ffc-4d3b-b5cc-088a00d82e85 [2026-08-11 16:48:22] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 3636 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0) [2026-08-11 16:48:22] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 3636 after 0 checks. [2026-08-11 16:48:22] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 3636. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} [2026-08-11 16:48:23] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=follow_up for recording 3636 [2026-08-11 16:50:28] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16605 classified as 'generic' (high). [2026-08-11 16:50:43] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 16605 (client 1254, 1 handler(s)). [2026-08-11 16:55:13] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 16:55:32] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=follow_up for recording 3636 [2026-08-11 16:56:55] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} [2026-08-11 17:00:29] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 17:07:54] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 17:16:57] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 17:24:46] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 17:30:15] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 17:31:08] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_2"} [2026-08-11 17:41:41] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 17:48:11] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11081 (James McKinley 0403787092 - 11082026.pdf) is password protected. [2026-08-11 17:48:13] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16621 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 17:48:13] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16621 matched via regex reference 'DSAR-20260713-BB7260' → DSAR 3901. [2026-08-11 17:48:15] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16621 response_type=data_provided. [2026-08-11 17:48:15] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16621 → triage_queue=dsar_evidence (response_type=data_provided, dsar_id=3901). [2026-08-11 17:48:15] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16621 auto-set DSAR 3901 status → completed (response_type=data_provided). [2026-08-11 17:48:15] production.WARNING: ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob: per-page parse failed for attachment 11081: Secured pdf file are currently not supported. [2026-08-11 17:48:15] production.INFO: ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob: attachment 11081 — pages=0, large=no. [2026-08-11 17:48:18] production.ERROR: ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob: failed for attachment 11081. {"error":"HTTP request returned status code 400: {\"type\":\"error\",\"error\":{\"type\":\"invalid_request_error\",\"message\":\"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF (truncated...) "} [2026-08-11 17:48:18] production.ERROR: HTTP request returned status code 400: {"type":"error","error":{"type":"invalid_request_error","message":"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF (truncated...) {"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\RequestException(code: 400): HTTP request returned status code 400: {\"type\":\"error\",\"error\":{\"type\":\"invalid_request_error\",\"message\":\"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF (truncated...) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/Response.php:332) [stacktrace] #0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/Response.php(348): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response->toException() #1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1064): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response->throw(Object(Closure)) #2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(393): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}:1043}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response)) #3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1043): tap(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response), Object(Closure)) #4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1) #5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure)) #6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(885): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('POST', 'https://api.ant...', Array) #7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Gateway/Anthropic/AnthropicGateway.php(68): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->post('messages', Array) #8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Gateway/Concerns/HandlesFailoverErrors.php(24): Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway->{closure:Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway::generateText():68}() #9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Gateway/Anthropic/AnthropicGateway.php(66): Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway->withErrorHandling('anthropic', Object(Closure)) #10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Providers/Concerns/GeneratesText.php(63): Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway->generateText(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider), 'claude-sonnet-4...', 'You are Synapse...', Array, Array, Array, Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\TextGenerationOptions), 60) #11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider->{closure:Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\Concerns\\GeneratesText::prompt():47}(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Prompts\\AgentPrompt)) #12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Prompts\\AgentPrompt)) #13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Providers/Concerns/GeneratesText.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Promptable.php(60): Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider->prompt(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Prompts\\AgentPrompt)) #15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Promptable.php(197): App\\Synapse\\Agents\\VerifyDsarDocumentAgent->{closure:Laravel\\Ai\\Promptable::prompt():60}(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider), 'claude-sonnet-4...') #16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Promptable.php(59): App\\Synapse\\Agents\\VerifyDsarDocumentAgent->withModelFailover(Object(Closure), Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider), 'claude-sonnet-4...') #17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob.php(295): App\\Synapse\\Agents\\VerifyDsarDocumentAgent->prompt('Filename: James...', Array) #18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob.php(107): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob->extractFromFile('James McKinley ...', 'application/pdf', Array, Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Files\\StoredDocument), 11081, 1, Object(App\\Models\\Contact\\Hub\\ContactMessageAttachment), NULL, true) #19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob->handle() #20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}() #21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure)) #22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure)) #23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL) #24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array) #25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob)) #26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob)) #27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob), false) #29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob)) #30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob)) #31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure)) #32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob)) #33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array) #34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire() #35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default') #39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle() #40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}() #41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure)) #42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure)) #43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL) #44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array) #45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput)) #53 {main} "} [2026-08-11 17:48:18] production.ERROR: ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob: permanently failed for attachment 11081. {"error":"HTTP request returned status code 400: {\"type\":\"error\",\"error\":{\"type\":\"invalid_request_error\",\"message\":\"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF (truncated...) "} [2026-08-11 17:48:37] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 16622 classified as 'dsar_response' (high). [2026-08-11 17:48:37] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16622 matched via regex reference 'DSAR-20260713-BB7260' → DSAR 3901. [2026-08-11 17:48:40] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16622 response_type=data_provided. [2026-08-11 17:48:40] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 16622 → triage_queue=dsar_evidence (response_type=data_provided, dsar_id=3901). [2026-08-11 18:00:19] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 18:07:44] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 18:16:48] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 18:24:37] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 18:30:06] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 18:30:06] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} [2026-08-11 18:30:59] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_2"} [2026-08-11 18:33:52] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_2"} [2026-08-11 18:34:09] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} [2026-08-11 18:34:15] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} [2026-08-11 18:36:11] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} [2026-08-11 18:41:32] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 19:00:10] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 19:07:35] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 19:12:41] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} [2026-08-11 19:16:39] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 19:24:28] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 19:29:57] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 19:35:22] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11082 (image002.jpg) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 19:35:22] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11083 (image001.jpg) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 19:35:24] production.ERROR: Allowed memory size of 536870912 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 2132610 bytes) {"exception":"[object] (Symfony\\Component\\ErrorHandler\\Error\\FatalError(code: 0): Allowed memory size of 536870912 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 2132610 bytes) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/smalot/pdfparser/src/Smalot/PdfParser/RawData/FilterHelper.php:270) [stacktrace] #0 {main} "} [2026-08-11 19:36:07] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11085 (image002.jpg) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 19:36:07] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11086 (image001.jpg) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 19:36:08] production.ERROR: Allowed memory size of 536870912 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 1859584 bytes) {"exception":"[object] (Symfony\\Component\\ErrorHandler\\Error\\FatalError(code: 0): Allowed memory size of 536870912 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 1859584 bytes) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/smalot/pdfparser/src/Smalot/PdfParser/RawData/FilterHelper.php:270) [stacktrace] #0 {main} "} [2026-08-11 19:36:52] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11082 (image002.jpg) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 19:36:52] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11083 (image001.jpg) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 19:36:54] production.ERROR: Allowed memory size of 536870912 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 2132610 bytes) {"exception":"[object] (Symfony\\Component\\ErrorHandler\\Error\\FatalError(code: 0): Allowed memory size of 536870912 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 2132610 bytes) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/smalot/pdfparser/src/Smalot/PdfParser/RawData/FilterHelper.php:270) [stacktrace] #0 {main} "} [2026-08-11 19:37:37] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11085 (image002.jpg) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 19:37:37] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11086 (image001.jpg) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 19:37:39] production.ERROR: Allowed memory size of 536870912 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 2128416 bytes) {"exception":"[object] (Symfony\\Component\\ErrorHandler\\Error\\FatalError(code: 0): Allowed memory size of 536870912 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 2128416 bytes) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/smalot/pdfparser/src/Smalot/PdfParser/RawData/FilterHelper.php:270) [stacktrace] #0 {main} "} [2026-08-11 19:38:10] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11088 (image002.jpg) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 19:38:10] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11089 (image001.jpg) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 19:38:12] production.ERROR: Allowed memory size of 536870912 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 25839268 bytes) {"exception":"[object] (Symfony\\Component\\ErrorHandler\\Error\\FatalError(code: 0): Allowed memory size of 536870912 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 25839268 bytes) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/smalot/pdfparser/src/Smalot/PdfParser/RawData/FilterHelper.php:270) [stacktrace] #0 {main} "} [2026-08-11 19:38:22] production.ERROR: App\Jobs\Contact\ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob has been attempted too many times. {"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\Queue\\MaxAttemptsExceededException(code: 0): App\\Jobs\\Contact\\ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob has been attempted too many times. at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/MaxAttemptsExceededException.php:24) [stacktrace] #0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(883): Illuminate\\Queue\\MaxAttemptsExceededException::forJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob)) #1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(592): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->maxAttemptsExceededException(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob)) #2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(493): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->markJobAsFailedIfAlreadyExceedsMaxAttempts('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 2) #3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default') #7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle() #8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}() #9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure)) #10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure)) #11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL) #12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array) #13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput)) #21 {main} "} [2026-08-11 19:39:07] production.ERROR: App\Jobs\Contact\ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob has been attempted too many times. {"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\Queue\\MaxAttemptsExceededException(code: 0): App\\Jobs\\Contact\\ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob has been attempted too many times. at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/MaxAttemptsExceededException.php:24) [stacktrace] #0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(883): Illuminate\\Queue\\MaxAttemptsExceededException::forJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob)) #1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(592): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->maxAttemptsExceededException(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob)) #2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(493): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->markJobAsFailedIfAlreadyExceedsMaxAttempts('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 2) #3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default') #7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle() #8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}() #9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure)) #10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure)) #11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL) #12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array) #13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput)) #21 {main} "} [2026-08-11 19:39:40] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11088 (image002.jpg) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 19:39:40] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11089 (image001.jpg) skipped — unsupported type. [2026-08-11 19:39:42] production.ERROR: Allowed memory size of 536870912 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 26260448 bytes) {"exception":"[object] (Symfony\\Component\\ErrorHandler\\Error\\FatalError(code: 0): Allowed memory size of 536870912 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 26260448 bytes) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/smalot/pdfparser/src/Smalot/PdfParser/RawData/FilterHelper.php:270) [stacktrace] #0 {main} "} [2026-08-11 19:41:11] production.ERROR: App\Jobs\Contact\ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob has been attempted too many times. {"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\Queue\\MaxAttemptsExceededException(code: 0): App\\Jobs\\Contact\\ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob has been attempted too many times. at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/MaxAttemptsExceededException.php:24) [stacktrace] #0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(883): Illuminate\\Queue\\MaxAttemptsExceededException::forJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob)) #1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(592): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->maxAttemptsExceededException(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob)) #2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(493): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->markJobAsFailedIfAlreadyExceedsMaxAttempts('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 2) #3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions)) #6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default') #7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle() #8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}() #9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure)) #10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure)) #11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL) #12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array) #13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle)) #15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput)) #20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput)) #21 {main} "} [2026-08-11 19:41:23] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 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{"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 20:29:48] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 20:30:14] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441618880834","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CA2a5910a09492f8016e71156369722173","To":"+441618880834","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0EyYTU5MTBhMDk0OTJmODAxNmU3MTE1NjM2OTcyMjE3MyIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3NTk0Nzc2ODQ2IiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE4ODgwODM0IiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NjQ3NjYxMyJ9.Umfgga1YnRT9nYI_iXqHIZca2kZd7e2vACGvQ_ZSsK5IOd-xoWvx3KGMFRQaKa34xp9zSBqo5Q3YNiIOsgkZUw%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447594776846","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+447594776846","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} [2026-08-11 20:41:14] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 20:57:53] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} [2026-08-11 20:57:59] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} [2026-08-11 20:59:52] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 21:07:19] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 21:16:21] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 21:24:10] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 21:29:39] production.WARNING: Dialler 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{"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 21:59:43] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 22:07:10] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 22:16:12] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 22:24:01] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 22:29:30] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 22:40:56] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 22:59:34] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 23:07:01] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 23:16:03] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} [2026-08-11 23:23:52] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} [2026-08-11 23:29:21] production.WARNING: Dialler 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